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How can Minny, Wisky and 4-8 Kentucky have so much better transfer portal game than us!?!?

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I don't believe for a second we have adequate NIL. This is on the administration for not nurturing the relationships needed to support NIL. How many multi-millionaire ex-players are supporting our NIL?? If not, why the hell not!!! Another failure by our administration.

All I know from watching better teams in bowls, we need to get bigger on both lines!!! Our defensive line didn't get much penetration all year and our OL had more issues. We have to improve our lines.
 
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Letsgohawks411 said:
I don't believe for a second we have adequate NIL. This is on the administration for not nurturing the relationships needed to support NIL. How many multi-millionaire ex-players are supporting our NIL?? If not, why the hell not!!! Another failure by our administration.

All I know from watching better teams in bowls, we need to get bigger on both lines!!! Our defensive line didn't get much penetration all year and our OL had more issues. We have to improve our lines.
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BETTER INCLUDE NEBR TOO!!
 
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Letsgohawks411 said:
I don't believe for a second we have adequate NIL. This is on the administration for not nurturing the relationships needed to support NIL. How many multi-millionaire ex-players are supporting our NIL?? If not, why the hell not!!! Another failure by our administration.

All I know from watching better teams in bowls, we need to get bigger on both lines!!! Our defensive line didn't get much penetration all year and our OL had more issues. We have to improve our lines.
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NIL has to come from big donors, the average fan could give 10.00 or 20.00 but also has to live and still try and afford tickets to the game, parking, concession food prices, and cold metal seats.

NIL needs to tap the past players, current big dogs.
 
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NIL has to come from big donors, the average fan could give 10.00 or 20.00 but also has to live and still try and afford tickets to the game, parking, concession food prices, and cold metal seats.

NIL needs to tap the past players, current big dogs.
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It’s very similar to the concept of, “The tragedy of the commons.” Most people, including myself, would donate $10-$20 if it really made a difference. Considering most people don’t feel a minimal contribution of even $50-$100 would likely make any difference, let alone the fact you are giving it to some 18-20 year old kid, it encourages most people to not give a dime.
 
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Letsgohawks411 said:
I don't believe for a second we have adequate NIL. This is on the administration for not nurturing the relationships needed to support NIL. How many multi-millionaire ex-players are supporting our NIL?? If not, why the hell not!!! Another failure by our administration.

All I know from watching better teams in bowls, we need to get bigger on both lines!!! Our defensive line didn't get much penetration all year and our OL had more issues. We have to improve our lines.
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Those schools don't have coaches that won't finish out their contract. KF has maybe one or two more years in him. If we finish 5-7 next season, it could be Kirk's last.
 
Alumni numbers can be fun to look at, even if most NIL funds come from big money donors; it seems that the larger universities could cull from their alumni associations to add funds more robustly than those from smaller states and smaller schools, such as Nebraska and ISU.

Here are some numbers from various alumni associations about the number of alumni each has:
Ohio State 605K alumni (plus being the only Power 2 school in a state of 12 million people)
Minnesota 496K (only FBS school in a state of 5.7 million)
Wisconsin 440K (only FBS school in a state of 5.9 million)
Iowa 301K (only Power 2 program, but shares with a mid-major in a state of 3.2 million)
Kentucky 286K (only Power 2 program, but shares with a mid-major in a state of 4.5 million)
Iowa State 284K (high mid-major conference in state of 3.2 million, shared with U of I, of course)
Oregon 274K (only Power 2 program in a state of 4.2 million, but one billionaire donor with seemingly unlimited funds)
Nebraska 193K (only FBS school in a state of 1.9 million)
 
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I think a lot of the fanbase knows exactly where we are in the new world of college football. We're in a rural state with a low-ish population, with a fellow D1 university in that same state competing with us for fans and $ from businesses. We also have no Phil Knight alum that is willing to constantly dump millions of dollars into the program. We are a team that will be competitive, but never really threaten for a shot at a title. Sure, we could make the playoffs once every so often. But we'll be like Indiana, not like OSU.

So the fanbase says, do I really want to throw good money away towards something that never will truly pay off in the end? We won't outspend OSU, Michigan, PSU, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Oregon, USC, Notre Dame, etc. And in football the roster is too big for us to be able to spend enough to fill a bunch of holes with big time transfers or recruits. Many of our fans have learned the sunk cost fallacy. And frankly I'd rather be us than someone like Texas A&M that throws massive amounts of money at the program yet gets similar results.
 
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Also … remember that Kirk prefers to develop his players. He is not a “cast the net” and see who we catch type of coach. He will seek a few guys out via the portal … it’s just not Kirk’s style. He’d prefer to give money to players already on
the roster and who may be considering moving on … We have 5-6 guys coming back who could have been done with Iowa football…
 
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My opinion, KF has lost his credibility as a coach who can recruit and develop players specifically linemen. NIL is probably a factor, but it’s more on KF.
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I think this is likely correct. IIRC, someone posted a source (no idea how credible) that Iowa was in the top 20 for NIL funds.

I believe Lester can produce a competent offense (and has already proven that) with better talent at wide receiver and quarterback. The problem is the stench of Brian Ferentz is still fairly fresh and kids don’t want to play for a coach who punts on fourth and short in plus territory.

In short, Captain Fossil is too radically conservative and wants to sit on any sort of lead in the third or fourth quarter. That doesn’t inspire kids with options to jump on board, especially when other schools can match or exceed NIL offers.

Kirk needs to accept that he has to evolve to keep pace in this era of college football or the Iowa program is going to get left behind.
 
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Alumni numbers can be fun to look at, even if most NIL funds come from big money donors; it seems that the larger universities could cull from their alumni associations to add funds more robustly than those from smaller states and smaller schools, such as Nebraska and ISU.

Here are some numbers from various alumni associations about the number of alumni each has:
Ohio State 605K alumni (plus being the only Power 2 school in a state of 12 million people)
Minnesota 496K (only FBS school in a state of 5.7 million)
Wisconsin 440K (only FBS school in a state of 5.9 million)
Iowa 301K (only Power 2 program, but shares with a mid-major in a state of 3.2 million)
Kentucky 286K (only Power 2 program, but shares with a mid-major in a state of 4.5 million)
Iowa State 284K (high mid-major conference in state of 3.2 million, shared with U of I, of course)
Oregon 274K (only Power 2 program in a state of 4.2 million, but one billionaire donor with seemingly unlimited funds)
Nebraska 193K (only FBS school in a state of 1.9 million)
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Nebraska has one of the single richest alumni on the planet.
 
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We have many successful (PAID) NFL players, there should be no reason our NIL should is ever lacking. I mean Kittle is making what, 75 million on his new contract alone? Buying SWARM beer is crumbs compared to the donors and ex-players who matter hopefully believing in the system.
 
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That is true, but Mr. Buffett doesn't funnel any of that money to the athletics department. He gives most of it to Bill and Melinda Gates' charities and to his children's philanthropical foundations.

It's a source of consternation for hardcore UNL fans.
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Iowa fans just can’t accept people who have the means to donate aren’t because of Captain Fossil. On top of that, no transfer with options is going to hop on board to play for a head coach who treats offense like it’s a risk to be cautiously managed.
 
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The Swarm Collective simply doesn't have enough money. It's that simple. Do you really think a player being sought after in the portal cares much about a 4-8 record vs 8-5 if the better team has substantially less money to offer?
 
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Iowa fans just can’t accept people who have the means to donate aren’t because of Captain Fossil. On top of that, no transfer with options is going to hop on board to play for a head coach who treats offense like it’s a risk to be cautiously managed.
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Yet, we have around 50K season ticket holders. If what you're saying is true, then why does that number remain steady? While Swarm struggles?
 
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Yet, we have around 50K season ticket holders. If what you're saying is true, then why does that number remain steady? While Swarm struggles?
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Why do you think?

Most see Iowa football as a big party gathering with friends and family. That has a lot to do with it.

If it wasn’t for beautiful fall days and partying, Kinnick would have similar crowds as Carver.
 
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RagnarLothbrok said:
Iowa fans just can’t accept people who have the means to donate aren’t because of Captain Fossil. On top of that, no transfer with options is going to hop on board to play for a head coach who treats offense like it’s a risk to be cautiously managed.
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💯 same thoughts! Get blasted for this take but it’s the damn truth! I throw Fran in the same boat! They both needs to go!!!
 
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Then why did you join this thread if all your questions were answered???
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to give you a hard time about making a pointless thread because you jackwagons have been crying that we aren’t bringing the quantity of transfers that other (bad) teams are, refuse to acknowledge any answers you are given and stimp your feet and pout. You folks are embarrassing.
 
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Letsgohawks411 said:
I don't believe for a second we have adequate NIL. This is on the administration for not nurturing the relationships needed to support NIL. How many multi-millionaire ex-players are supporting our NIL?? If not, why the hell not!!! Another failure by our administration.

All I know from watching better teams in bowls, we need to get bigger on both lines!!! Our defensive line didn't get much penetration all year and our OL had more issues. We have to improve our lines.
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How do you know we won’t end up doing better in the portal than the schools you mentioned. We will add more guys. Some of those like Wisconsin also lost a lot in the portal, so it is too early to judge how well they or others are doing.
 
I’m not sure you realize just how much money SEC programs have. Even UK. They just paid an offensive lineman from Bowling Green 500k.
 
RagnarLothbrok said:
Why do you think?

Most see Iowa football as a big party gathering with friends and family. That has a lot to do with it.

If it wasn’t for beautiful fall days and partying, Kinnick would have similar crowds as Carver.
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Yeah, I have to disagree. Tailgating with friends and family absolutely doesn't have to involve going into the game. And for many, it doesn't. People who buy season tickets do it for the love of Iowa football.
 
Iafootballfan said:
We have many successful (PAID) NFL players, there should be no reason our NIL should is ever lacking. I mean Kittle is making what, 75 million on his new contract alone? Buying SWARM beer is crumbs compared to the donors and ex-players who matter hopefully believing in the system.
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Interesting how the whole NFL thing seemingly continues to benefit Iowa's program minimally. Certainly isn't helping with recruiting much.
 
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