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How's Keegan Doing?

LOLWUT? Go compare their freshman stats to Keegan's.

Both ended up being top tier Big Ten players. Neither has blossomed into an NBA star.
Fairly certain that when scouting Keegan that they didn’t look at other players stats and say ‘gee, those players with different skill sets and size haven’t panned out’
You don’t normally keep doubling down whe you are off point like you are on this subject.
 
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Fairly certain that when scouting Keegan that they didn’t look at other players stats and say ‘gee, those players with different skill sets and size haven’t panned out’
You don’t normally keep doubling down whe you are off point like you are on this subject.
What are you saying? That Garza and Weiskamp are totally irrelevant to any discussion about Keegan? That's just crazy talk man. 🤪
 
Yep. That year:

Keegan:
7.2 PPG
0.5 APG
0.6 TOPG
0.83 AST/TO ratio
5.1 RPG

Connor:
3.3 PPG
3.6 APG
1.0 TOPG
3.6:1 AST/TO ratio
3.1 RPG

So Keegan, w/ 0.5 APG was worth about 8.2 PPG
Connor w/ 3.6 AGP was worth about 10.5 PPG

Keegan averaged 18 min/game; Connor 23 min/game

Pretty even, I'd say; and the extra assists and better AST/TO ratio, you'd probably start Connor over Keegan that year.

Keegan made a HUGE jump the following year.
Connor regressed that year; but bounced back to put up slightly better numbers the year after when Keegan entered the draft.

Keegan had much higher upside, but in his Freshman year, he most assuredly was neither a "star", nor a future NBA draft pick.
Most of Connors assists were stationary entry passes to a guy who was also stationary and was an automatic bucket.

Those are not points setup by the passer.

Shots created by the passer looks like what Brock Harding does. Hitting a guy cutting towards the basket.

Throwing the ball to Garza with his back to the basket is one of if not the easiest assist in the history of college basketball.

Yeah Connor was good at entry passes it but it's not particularly difficult. Jobo got tons of those assists too because there was shit load to go around when you have one of the most efficient scorers in history who was a master of getting position.
 
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Joes Place, give it up, guy. We all watched Keegan as a Freshman and it was clear he needed more minutes. LOL at you using those stats between Keegan and Connor as a point.
 
Most of Connors assists were stationary entry passes to a guy who was also stationary and was an automatic bucket.

FWIW, Connor was routinely noted as an above-average post-feed passer by most play-by-play guys. Nothing flashy, but competent. He sucked at 3s until his last year, when he was at least decent.

And, if the recipient doesn't immediately score (e.g. has to dribble to make a move to get open) it is not an assist.

Connor was good a recognizing when the post player had position to score and got him the ball in position for the easy bucket. Something we are not really getting much of (yet) this year.

We actually are missing a good post-feeder this year. Bowen is flashier with the dribble than Connor ever was, but he gets a little penetration and then has no idea where to go with the ball.
 
Joes Place, give it up, guy. We all watched Keegan as a Freshman and it was clear he needed more minutes.

He wasn't putting up any better numbers than Connor, with similar minutes.
You're not remembering his freshman year play, you're biasing it based on his breakout soph year and NBA development.
 
He wasn't putting up any better numbers than Connor, with similar minutes.
You're not remembering his freshman year play, you're biasing it based on his breakout soph year and NBA development.
You’re right, no Hawkeye fan on Earth was clamoring for Keegan to get more minutes as a freshman.
 
FWIW, Connor was routinely noted as an above-average post-feed passer by most play-by-play guys. Nothing flashy, but competent. He sucked at 3s until his last year, when he was at least decent.

And, if the recipient doesn't immediately score (e.g. has to dribble to make a move to get open) it is not an assist.

Connor was good a recognizing when the post player had position to score and got him the ball in position for the easy bucket. Something we are not really getting much of (yet) this year.

We actually are missing a good post-feeder this year. Bowen is flashier with the dribble than Connor ever was, but he gets a little penetration and then has no idea where to go with the ball.
I agree he was very good at entry feeds and a good passer in general but no other coach in the country would have kept Keegan on the bench for Connor given that roster.
 
Kevin Durant had high praise for Keegan postgame.

“He’s getting more confident each game, shooting the basketball at a high clip,” Durant said. “Long, athletic (and) he’s playing with more intensity on the defensive side of the ball as well. You can tell they trust him with those matchups. Like, just watching him play. He’s into the ball. He’s playing hard. He might get some fouls, but he’s playing aggressively on the defensive side of the ball, and I think that’s what’s getting his shot going to be honest. He’s going to be an all-around threat for them going forward for years and he’s a key part of what they’re doing right now.”

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Kevin Durant had high praise for Keegan postgame.

“He’s getting more confident each game, shooting the basketball at a high clip,” Durant said. “Long, athletic (and) he’s playing with more intensity on the defensive side of the ball as well. You can tell they trust him with those matchups. Like, just watching him play. He’s into the ball. He’s playing hard. He might get some fouls, but he’s playing aggressively on the defensive side of the ball, and I think that’s what’s getting his shot going to be honest. He’s going to be an all-around threat for them going forward for years and he’s a key part of what they’re doing right now.”

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Those comments are high praise from one of the greats. "
You can tell they trust him with those matchups.
He's been working his tail off on the defensive side of the ball and more people are seeing it and appreciating the hard work.

T-Wolves @ Sac @ 9PM tonight on League Pass.
 
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Minnesota (22-6) beats the Kings (17-11), 110-98.

A fourth quarter 13-0 Sacramento run was not enough.

The top 2 Kings scorers were De'Aaron Fox with 27 and Keegan with 20.

The Kings shot just 44% overall and 24% (8-33) from 3.

Keegan's Stats:

39 Minutes (of 48 possible)

3-7 (43%) from three
5-9 (56%) from 2 pt range
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8-16 (50%) Overall Shooting

1-2 (50%) FTs

20 Points
7 Rebounds (1 Offensive)
3 Steals
1 Block
0 Assists


1 Turnover
3 Fouls
 
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Sac @ Portland @ 9PM on Root Sports and League Pass. Malik Monk and Alex Len are both available for tonight's game. That's good news having Len back. He's missed several weeks with a high ankle sprain. We all know what Malik does, and it's good to have them back going forward. Hoping Keegan does well again, and that Kris can get some minutes as well.
 
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He wasn't putting up any better numbers than Connor, with similar minutes.
You're not remembering his freshman year play, you're biasing it based on his breakout soph year and NBA development.
These boards were full of folks saying he needed more minutes, his freshman year. It was clear he had the tools. He just needed every minute you could give him to get comfortable with the college game. Conner had a ceiling.
 
Kings lose to Minny 110-98. Keegan with 20 points and 7 rebs. Huerter had 2 points. :(
See!!! The Kings lost! So by extension this is why Keegan shouldn't have played more minutes his freshman year!! Joes Place was right all along!! 🤪
 
Portland (8-21) beats the visiting Kings (17-12), 130-113. The Kings shot just 10-42 (23.8%) from 3. Portland shot 16-40 (40%).

Keegan's Stats:

36 Minutes (of 48 possible)

1-7 (14%) from three
1-4 (25%) from 2 pt range
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2-11 (18%) Overall Shooting

0-0 (0%) FTs

5 Points
4 Rebounds (1 Offensive)
2 Assists
1 Block
0 Steals


0 Turnovers
1 Foul
 
Kings win 117-110. Keegan with 9 pts, 5 rebounds, 3 stls, and 2 blocks.

The Kings (now 18-12) were down by 18 points at halftime at Atlanta (now 12-19).

Nice 25 point second half swing.

Keegan's Stats:

36 minutes (of 48 possible)

1-6 (17%) from 3
3-6 (50%) from 2 pt range
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4-12 (33%) Overall shooting

0-0 FTs

9 Points
5 Defensive Rebounds
3 Steals
2 Blocks


0 Turnovers
5 Fouls
 
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