Hypothetical DJ carton scenario

[tony0051]

Assuming he would want to come on Scholly would Fran pull scholly from Pat and Connor.

That would solve scholly issue for all to come back.

 

[bojihawk44]

He can't do that. So no, that won't be happening. Been discussed in the other 12 DJ threads already.

 

[TCOOL]

He can't do that. So no, that won't be happening. Been discussed in the other 12 DJ threads already.

Why can't he?

 

[Hendy hawk]

Oh good another Carton thread

 

[silasstarr]

He can't do that. So no, that won't be happening. Been discussed in the other 12 DJ threads already.

Perhaps I missed why, but I'm pretty sure he can pull their scholarships.

 

[bojihawk44]

Here you go:

That is no longer the case. A B1G / P5 player is guaranteed a scholarship for all 4 years (provided no academic, ethical, moral, team major violations, etc. malfeasance) if offered & accepts a scholarship upon his first year of college eligibility. That scenario pertains to Patrick but not Connor.

The only question pertaining to Patrick that I've seen raised is - can he voluntarily rescind his 4 year guarantee and stay with the team?

I can see where that would not be allowed as a lot of games could be played with that "loop hole" but haven't seen definitively answered via the internet searches I've conducted anyway.

https://informedathlete.com/the-facts-about-guaranteed-multi-year-ncaa-di-scholarships/

 

[unoHawkeye]

Here you go:

I’m almost positive that just because it’s guaranteed to the player doesn’t mean that they can’t opt to give it up. Pretty sure that was what happened in the Doug McDermott/Grant Gibbs situation

 

[bojihawk44]

I’m almost positive that just because it’s guaranteed to the player doesn’t mean that they can’t opt to give it up. Pretty sure that was what happened in the Doug McDermott/Grant Gibbs situation

Maybe, I don't know. Either way they should both stay on scholarship.

 

[unoHawkeye]

Maybe, I don't know. Either way they should both stay on scholarship.

Agreed!

 

[walleye hunter16]

I love this board.
So many times it makes me feel like a genius even though I know its not even close to being true.

 

[skydog0784]

As I allude to in the response that was quoted above, I don’t know for sure if a player can opt out of his guaranteed scholarship but tend to think they can based on a few subsequent replies such as unoHawk’s above.

I do think it’s a moot point as I don’t see Carton coming to Iowa anyway.

 

[wneff]

I’m almost positive that just because it’s guaranteed to the player doesn’t mean that they can’t opt to give it up. Pretty sure that was what happened in the Doug McDermott/Grant Gibbs situation

The guaranteed scholarship is a Big 10 rule. Creighton is irrelevant.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...t-major-conference-to-guarantee-scholarships/

 

[unoHawkeye]

The guaranteed scholarship is a Big 10 rule. Creighton is irrelevant.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...t-major-conference-to-guarantee-scholarships/

I hadn’t seen that (obviously). Thanks for sharing

 

[Kurt Warner]

I love this board.
So many times it makes me feel like a genius even though I know its not even close to being true.

 

[silasstarr]

Maybe, I don't know. Either way they should both stay on scholarship.

Why? With or without they have all the benefits outside of Tuition and room and board. Fran can easily cover the cost, while being NCAA compliant. Win.

 

[IllQChawk]

If he wants to come, he has to pay his own way and redshirt for a year, That's the only way it would work out. That's how Uthoff had to come to Iowa although then the BIG had a transfer rule. This time there are no scholarships available.

 

[CleteyColgate]

Assuming he would want to come on Scholly would Fran pull scholly from Pat and Connor.

That would solve scholly issue for all to come back.

Boy, wouldn't that be a circus of a rotation. Half the team would transfer

 

[BBHawk]

The guaranteed scholarship is a Big 10 rule. Creighton is irrelevant.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...t-major-conference-to-guarantee-scholarships/

That does not apply to this situation. Doh!

 

[bojihawk44]

Why? With or without they have all the benefits outside of Tuition and room and board. Fran can easily cover the cost, while being NCAA compliant. Win.

Because they're scholarship players and deserve it. Doesn't matter who their parents are or how rich they are.

 

[amahawk]

He missed the boat.

 

[pocha444444]

Oh good another Carton thread

You have anything else you want to talk about right now?

 

[HawkIDrummer]

The player is guaranteed a scholarship if they remain in good standing, meaning the school or coach can't take it away.

But there's no reason they couldn't voluntarily decline it if they wanted to.

 

[Hawkeye Marching Band]

As has been noted many times, CMac can come off scholarship, because he was initially a walk-on.

 

[EKHawk]

I've been reading a lot of opinions on this subject but haven'd seen much on the following question/issue - What was the relationship like between the Iowa coaches and DJC? If we weren't even in his top 3 the first time around, was this an issue? BTW, not saying there was a rift between them, just looking for informed answers.

 

[David1979]

I heard him and coaches boys don’t get along. Don’t know if true.

 

[tsawv]

Enough of Carton talk move on.

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

I heard him and coaches boys don’t get along. Don’t know if true.

Don't think JW is on the Carton train either.