Hypothetical lineup?

[just_somebody]

It's nice to get a thoughtful response. I get it. Wrestling more than any sport I can think of brings out the visceral reaction in the fans. It's hard to see a rival succeed. It was hard to watch Iowa be so dominant for the previous 2 years. It was hard to see all these upperclassmen coming back for another year and thinking that damn it's just not right. Passion is great but the unfounded accusations don't make anyone look good. And remember their are families behind each of those accusations, people just like us. In regard to families and the Beard/Nevills situation, according to Michael's father, he was disappointed in not being the guy but loves it at PSU and intends to graduate. When he does, who knows what he might do with his eligibility. The Nevills family have become a big PSU family over the years. Seth is beefed up to 300+ pounds and is playing football at PSU. Not every wrestler has goals to be an Olympic athlete or even a coach. Some want to get a degree and start a career. But anyway, I appreciate the thoughtful reply.

Different scale, but similar concept at my kids school.

When I was in school here, our sports teams were very successful, but my teams fell short of winning any state championships.

Right now they are an absolute juggernaut in several girls sports. My kids aren't in HS yet, so I haven't had to deal with it, but i have friends with kids that age. They will likely be a part of at least 6 state championship teams, but they are unlikely to have the sort of individual success (or even playing time) that my friend had in HS. To draw even more of a parallel: we are small school but it is not uncommon for families with aspiring young (JH and elementary) athletes to move here for opportunity, and have even had a few open enrollees from the nearest large school.

We regularly talk about what is better - getting to play regular minutes and experience good-but not great -success, or being part of a champ, but doing so primarily from the bench. The fact that we never really come to a clear conclusion makes it understandable why guys would stick around, especially since PSU is a pretty good school with a strong alumni bond - its not like its a bad long term decision

 

[Grip220]

You love to cry foul, but try to look at the Real Woods thing objectively. What if the exact same series of events happened but instead of Iowa, he went to Penn State? Look at the facts. You could easily surmise that some funny business was going on behind the scenes since he entered the portal with a do not contact designation. A deal must have been wrapped up before he was free to be contacted about a transfer. There are rumors he he was talking to people while at the NCAA Championships. Would you cast any accusations PSU's way knowing those facts/rumors?
It's kind of like Matthew McConaughey's closing remarks in A Time to Kill. The only difference would be rather than him saying "now imagine she's white" he says "imagine he's a Hawkeye". Perspective is everything.
And for the record, I don't think Iowa did anything wrong in the Real Woods transfer. For all I know he has dreamed about being a Hawkeye his whole life. I think it is great for the PSU-Iowa rivalry next year, although it sucks for Stanford. But that's life.

Ok I’m going to reply even though sometimes I think your drunk on cheap wine.
I agree that Henson leaving is not a great look and we are not happy about any Hawks leaving, but most are comparing apples to oranges.
The difference is as you pointed out the Beard situation, there is a top recruit that was ready to compete for an AA spot and look what happened. Now obviously Dean won so who will complain except maybe the Beard family.
I also will admit and have said so in other posts, times are changing and get with them or get lost.
some have been doing it for years!

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

dips!t

Hate to play grammar police, but the correct spelling is dip$#!+.

 

[82bordeaux]

Ok I’m going to reply even though sometimes I think your drunk on cheap wine.
I agree that Henson leaving is not a great look and we are not happy about any Hawks leaving, but most are comparing apples to oranges.
The difference is as you pointed out the Beard situation, there is a top recruit that was ready to compete for an AA spot and look what happened. Now obviously Dean won so who will complain except maybe the Beard family.
I also will admit and have said so in other posts, times are changing and get with them or get lost.
some have been doing it for years!

Just 2 things:

1. I may be drunk but it ain't on cheap wine.

2. What are you even talking about?

 

[Mendoza77]

I never said we cannot beat them,

you 100% cried that it was an uneven playing field and an uphill battle

I said maybe Nemo is better than you

i never saw you say this but it just further proves you're a dips!t

Now what I did say is they have lots of money and what are they doing with it

lol. what a lying coward. you said way more than that.

Willie, I once thought that you were a quasi-journalist, a somewhat professional media person, but recently you've shown that you're mostly just a keyboard warrior interested mostly in back and forth bickering and insults. Most likely it's to stroke your ego that you're an important cog in wrestling social media (you're not), or to try to get clicks and build your advertising base. Therefore I mostly ignore what you have to say about wrestling, since your motives are questionable.

I would guess that most of us greatly prefer professionals like Cody Goodwin and Ross Bartachek. I guess you're simply a product of the pathetic social media society that is sadly taking over much of our lives. Traits such as credibility and respect seem to have taken a back seat.

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

2. What are you even talking about?

Haven't you learned to read between Grip's lines yet?

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

most are comparing apples to oranges.

Woods coming to replace a RS Henson (an apple) is not like Dean coming to replace an AA starter Beard (an orange).

Henson leaving (an apple) is not like Beard staying (an orange).

The difference is as you pointed out the Beard situation, there is a top recruit that was ready to compete for an AA spot and look what happened. Now obviously Dean won so who will complain except maybe the Beard family.

some have been doing it for years!

Henson has got to go, because Iowa supporters don't have enough NIL/HWC promise $ to send his way (an apple), Meanwhile the implication is Beard must have a cherry slushfund deal put in place some years ago to have stayed (an orange).

Did I translate that right, @Grip220?

 

[Life=HawkeyeWrestlin]

Needs to tweet a few things?

tweak.

 

[Is_there_vodka_in_heaven]

tweak.

Ohh. That makes more sense haha.

 

[Grip220]

Woods coming to replace a RS Henson (an apple) is not like Dean coming to replace an AA starter Beard (an orange).

Henson leaving (an apple) is not like Beard staying (an orange).




Henson has got to go, because Iowa supporters don't have enough NIL/HWC promise $ to send his way (an apple), Meanwhile the impllication is Beard must have a cherry slushfund deal put in place some years ago to have stayed (an orange).

Did I translate that right, @Grip220?

You are way off , Who the heck mentioned anything about a cherry. You must have been dropped on your head to many times while you were bulking up to wrestle 98lbs.

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

You are way off , Who the heck mentioned anything about a cherry. You must have been dropped on your head to many times while you were bulking up to wrestle 98lbs.

Trying to maintain the fruit motif, is all.

 

[OldHawkFan]

What’s a dipsit?

 

[UndercoverHawk]

What’s a dipsit?

It’s an exercise

 

[Grip220]

Willie, I once thought that you were a quasi-journalist, a somewhat professional media person, but recently you've shown that you're mostly just a keyboard warrior interested mostly in back and forth bickering and insults. Most likely it's to stroke your ego that you're an important cog in wrestling social media (you're not), or to try to get clicks and build your advertising base. Therefore I mostly ignore what you have to say about wrestling, since your motives are questionable.

I would guess that most of us greatly prefer professionals like Cody Goodwin and Ross Bartachek. I guess you're simply a product of the pathetic social media society that is sadly taking over much of our lives. Traits such as credibility and respect seem to have taken a back seat.

Ouch that’s gonna leave a mark, he is gonna tell you that you are giving Hawk fans a bad name look out.
What’s really interesting about his posts is actually nothing, he says lots without saying anything. I just realized he highlighted what I said with no rebuttal, yet again saying nothing. It’s his way, then he try’s to porn off some sort of podcast that nobody is interested in.

 

[Grip220]

Just 2 things:

1. I may be drunk but it ain't on cheap wine.

2. What are you even talking about?

Hey cheap wine, what did you not understand? Damn and I thought that small guy was and idiot.

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

he try’s to porn off some sort of podcast

Ooof. Freudian slip much?

I doubt a Willie porn off will garner too many Rokfin tips.

I would say it's "tries" and maybe throw in a "moran" but I only allow myself one grammar policing per day, and I already used it on "dips!t."

 

[Bobhaywood]

What are the possibilities at 157?

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

What are the possibilities at 157?

Big bag of "NIL/HWC" cash to a wrestler yet-to-be-named?

 

[el dub]

What are the possibilities at 157?

Slim to none, according to some around here. Lol

 

[Nashville_Hawkeye]

125 Lee vs Howard, WTF 5-0
133 Henson vs RBY, LMD 5-4
141 Woods vs Bartlett, WDec 8-4
149 Murin vs Van Ness WDec 11-4
157 Siebrecht vs Haines LDec 11-7
165 Kennedy vs Facundo WDec 14-7
174 Brands vs Starocci LDec 14-10
184 Assad vs Brooks LMD 14-14
195 Warner vs Dean LDec 14-17
HWT Cassioppi vs Kerkvliet WDec 17-17

Hawks win on criteria for getting a tech fall

Is there some Kool-aid we're supposed to be drinking?

 

[Nashville_Hawkeye]

That’s reasonable.

Here’s how I see it, in case you have any interest in a PSU fan’s take on it:

125 Spencer MAJ Howard
133 RBY MAJ Ayala/Schreiver/Henson
141: Woods DEC Bartlett
149: Murin DEC SVN
157: BearClaw (Haines) DEC Siebrecht/Riggins
165: Edsell (Facundo) DEC Kennedy
174: Starocci MAJ Brands
184: Brooks MAJ Assad
197: Dean DEC Warner
285: Cass DEC Kerk

21-13 PSU

Certainly 149, 157 and 165 could each go the other way, but I think you have to go with experience over a freshman until proven otherwise. I also think Kerk will figure Cass out but if I’m staying true to predicting based on what we’ve seen thus far, it’s a Cass win.

Without necessarily agreeing with each of the match scores, I think the dual score is much more realistic than the initial poster's dream. I want to see the improvement before dreaming of a competitive dual. I hope Cass gains 15 or more over the summer...do that and Kerk will never figure him out.

 

[Nashville_Hawkeye]

You have no credibility after picking Edsell over Kennedy..

Concur. Don't see Kennedy losing very often next year, and definitely not in this dual unless PSU stacks the deck with an instant high AA at 65...

 

[A Fist Full of Hawkeyes]

Ouch that’s gonna leave a mark, he is gonna tell you that you are giving Hawk fans a bad name look out.
What’s really interesting about his posts is actually nothing, he says lots without saying anything. I just realized he highlighted what I said with no rebuttal, yet again saying nothing. It’s his way, then he try’s to porn off some sort of podcast that nobody is interested in.

I will not watch Willie's porn.

1. I guarantee it's cheap as **** with terrible production quality.

2. There's no Kimmy Granger.

3. Leave me alone while I'm "cleaning" my room.

 

[A Fist Full of Hawkeyes]

Ooof. Freudian slip much?

I doubt a Willie porn off will garner too many Rokfin tips.

I would say it's "tries" and maybe throw in a "moran" but I only allow myself one grammar policing per day, and I already used it on "dips!t."

You said "porn" and "tip" in the same sentence and all did was concentrate on the grammar.

You should be ashamed.

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

You said "porn" and "tip" in the same sentence and all did was concentrate on the grammar.

Hey, I also explicitly slipped a little Willie in there, so let's not gloss over that.

 

[smalls103]

Willie, I once thought that you were a quasi-journalist, a somewhat professional media person, but recently you've shown that you're mostly just a keyboard warrior interested mostly in back and forth bickering and insults. Most likely it's to stroke your ego that you're an important cog in wrestling social media (you're not), or to try to get clicks and build your advertising base. Therefore I mostly ignore what you have to say about wrestling, since your motives are questionable.

I would guess that most of us greatly prefer professionals like Cody Goodwin and Ross Bartachek. I guess you're simply a product of the pathetic social media society that is sadly taking over much of our lives. Traits such as credibility and respect seem to have taken a back seat.

people have been playing the 'professional' card on me for 15 years. think what you want.

i'm not apologizing for saying what's clearly evident to anyone who reads Grip's posts - that he has ranted for years about an uneven playing field and now has done an about-face.

furthermore, his posts bring nothing to the board and each one would might as well just read 'Go Hawks'.

 

[Grip220]

Trying to maintain the fruit motif, is all.

Ooof. Freudian slip much?

I doubt a Willie porn off will garner too many Rokfin tips.

I would say it's "tries" and maybe throw in a "moran" but I only allow myself one grammar policing per day, and I already used it on "dips!t."

I understand literary composition is your thing, but who TF cares! Also you are siding with little Rufskin guy, have you paid (or is it payed, again WTF cares) much attention to how he writes? You could start your own thread on it and again nobody would F**k N care! And you should TRY and use a few more MORANs around these parts it would make you more credible.

 

[Grip220]

Willie, I once thought that you were a quasi-journalist, a somewhat professional media person, but recently you've shown that you're mostly just a keyboard warrior interested mostly in back and forth bickering and insults. Most likely it's to stroke your ego that you're an important cog in wrestling social media (you're not), or to try to get clicks and build your advertising base. Therefore I mostly ignore what you have to say about wrestling, since your motives are questionable.

I would guess that most of us greatly prefer professionals like Cody Goodwin and Ross Bartachek. I guess you're simply a product of the pathetic social media society that is sadly taking over much of our lives. Traits such as credibility and respect seem to have taken a back seat.

Hey @Mendoza77 , the little turd just proved both of our points in one post. Go HAWKS!

ps- maybe one of these days he will post something relevant ( you know, because he is a professional insider at least at the level of that Nemo guy). I guess I will give him a bit before I start asking everyone to put him on ignore because he adds less than nothing and is just attempting to sell (yes sell) his BS podscum!

GO HAWKS

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

I understand literary composition is your thing, but who TF cares! Also you are siding with little Rufskin guy, have you paid (or is it payed, again WTF cares) much attention to how he writes? You could start your own thread on it and again nobody would F**k N care! And you should TRY and use a few more MORANs around these parts it would make you more credible.

I didn't realize I was siding with Willie. Occasionally, I listen to Willlie's podcast, but, no, I don't have a continuous Rokfin subscription. Like others, I subscribe if there is an event I want to see, which then allows me to access other content for the month.

I thought I was just engaging in some good natured humor after your typo opened the door. You probably meant "pawn off", but since I've failed at translating your gibberish before, I couldn't be sure.

Thanks for acknowledging I have some credibility.

 

[Grip220]

I didn't realize I was siding with Willie. Occasionally, I listen to Willlie's podcast, but, no, I don't have a continuous Rokfin subscription. Like others, I subscribe if there is an event I want to see, which then allows me to access other content for the month.

I thought I was just engaging in some good natured humor after your typo opened the door. You probably meant "pawn off", but since I've failed at translating your gibberish before, I couldn't be sure.

Thanks for acknowledging I have some credibility.

You were and you do, but no typo except the tried thing, Carry on. Go Hawks!
ps- for what it’s worth I am 35 years out from writing any college papers and in my profession and many others there are not many people that pay attention to Grammar. Also my wife happens to be a college professor and most of her students write like they text now a days, although she is in the Anatomy field and not the literacy field.

 

[el dub]

people have been playing the 'professional' card on me for 15 years. think what you want.

i'm not apologizing for saying what's clearly evident to anyone who reads Grip's posts - that he has ranted for years about an uneven playing field and now has done an about-face.

furthermore, his posts bring nothing to the board and each one would might as well just read 'Go Hawks'.

Dude, that ain’t even close to the strangest part about grip. Lol

 

[T8KUDWN]

people have been playing the 'professional' card on me for 15 years. think what you want.

i'm not apologizing for saying what's clearly evident to anyone who reads Grip's posts - that he has ranted for years about an uneven playing field and now has done an about-face.

furthermore, his posts bring nothing to the board and each one would might as well just read 'Go Hawks'.

Hey, backoff on Grip. I like his posts and remember it's a bit of a brotherhood/sisterhood here in the Cesspool. Kind of one of those deals where you F with one of us you're going to get some flack back from a lot of us....

 

[ChiPackHawk]

people have been playing the 'professional' card on me for 15 years. think what you want.

i'm not apologizing for saying what's clearly evident to anyone who reads Grip's posts - that he has ranted for years about an uneven playing field and now has done an about-face.

furthermore, his posts bring nothing to the board and each one would might as well just read 'Go Hawks'.

Well, it is a Hawkeye message board and I would be disappointed if it was unbiased. And the fact is, the playing field was uneven and now for all intents and purposes, it has leveled out. With NIL it all's fair in love and war.

 

[82bordeaux]

With NIL it all's fair in love and war.

Well according to reports this morning, not really.

 

[NCHawk5]

people have been playing the 'professional' card on me for 15 years. think what you want.

i'm not apologizing for saying what's clearly evident to anyone who reads Grip's posts - that he has ranted for years about an uneven playing field and now has done an about-face.

furthermore, his posts bring nothing to the board and each one would might as well just read 'Go Hawks'.

You’re a whiny one

 

[82bordeaux]

@NCHawk5 I think we should set up a Final X event under the bridge. We can have @pawrestlersintn , @98lberEating2Lunches , @Menace Sockeyes and @smalls103 have a four way bracket with the winner facing you in a best 2 of 3. Sell PPV on ROKFIN and raise some NIL money for your Hawks. Win win all the way around!

#Free55onBWI There you go FIFY!

 

[NCHawk5]

@NCHawk5 I think we should set up a Final X event under the bridge. We can have @pawrestlersintn , @98lberEating2Lunches , @Menace Sockeyes and @smalls103 have a four way bracket with the winner facing you in a best 2 of 3. Sell PPV on ROKFIN and raise some NIL money for your Hawks. Win win all the way around!

#freeNCHawk5

#Free55onBWI*

 

[82bordeaux]

@NCHawk5 I think we should set up a Final X event under the bridge. We can have @pawrestlersintn , @98lberEating2Lunches , @Menace Sockeyes and @smalls103 have a four way bracket with the winner facing you in a best 2 of 3. Sell PPV on ROKFIN and raise some NIL money for your Hawks. Win win all the way around!

#Free55onBWI There you go FIFY!

@el dub you have to watch your step or you'll be put out there on a pigtail!

 

[ChiPackHawk]

Well according to reports this morning, not really.

And what report would that be?

 

[HawkinWater]

And what report would that be?

That Iowa has been turned into NCAA for recruiting infractions. At least that's what I'm putting together from Twitter. @smalls103 and Fellers are going back and forth about it.