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I don't get the "Die Hard is/isn't a Christmas movie" thing

I was always in the "not a Christmas movie" camp. I watched it a couple of days ago for the first time in a long time and have changed my mind, Die Hard is a Christmas movie. Not in a traditional sense but there are definitely Christmas references all over that movie. It's in the theme of the Christmas movie Bill Murray promoed starring Lee Majors in Scrooged. "This Santa is going out the front door."
 
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Light hearted my ass. I'll cut you if you say it's a Christmas movie. Come at me.

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dont bring a knife to a gun fight!
 
No, this isn't about whether it is or not, but why it has to be an annual topic of conversation? Why is this funny or edgy? Same memes posted year after year, I just don't understand the fascination of this. What am I missing?
Because it takes place during a workplace Christmas party.
 
I love the scene where the cop checks the place out and decides it’s all calm. While backing up they unload the machine guns in him. His reaction is funny
 
Real question...

How is Die Hard any less of a Christmas movie than White Christmas or Its a Wonderful Life?

I made my no pic wife very angry with this question today and she straight up didn't have an answer. The setting for Die Hard is at a company Christmas party and an attempt to reunite a family. The former movies have almost nothing to do with Christmas for 95% of the movie.
 
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It takes place at Xmas time.

No religious ties. No xmas themes.

It depends on how you define a Xmas movie.
 
It takes place at Xmas time.

No religious ties. No xmas themes.
McClane redeems himself and his relationship with his wife. Oh, and it's at a fvcking Christmas party. He even dresses up one of the Krauts he kills in a Santa hat and writes on his sweatshirt, "Ho Ho Ho!"

Plus, that Gerry ass prick had feet smaller than McClane's sister. I guess that doesn't go toward my point.

Ode to Joy wasn't written as a Christmas song, but it has become, over 200 years, associated with the season. I've been to multiple performances of Beethoven's 9th, in symphony halls and high school gymnasiums. None of those performances were in July. They were all in December.
 
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No, this isn't about whether it is or not, but why it has to be an annual topic of conversation? Why is this funny or edgy? Same memes posted year after year, I just don't understand the fascination of this. What am I missing?
There's this thing called the internet and once in a great while, people on the internet engage in stupid arguments.
 
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The movie is mid at best. People that cling to it’s the best Christmas movie haven’t watched many Christmas movies
 
The only time you would play the soundtrack is at at Christmas time so therefore it is a Christmas movie. Among many other reasons.
 
And it happened again!

TBS/TNT have been playing Die Hard and Die Hard 2 pretty much non stop this weekend. Dennis Franz sucked pretty hard in DH2.
I heard an interview on the Score yesterday with a longtime movie reviewer, and he was commenting about Christmas movies, and he reminisced about how very few people thought Willis could be an action movie star. Prior to Die Hard he'd been the smug, smart aleck guy.
 
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Christmas setting; Christmas theme.

In addition to all the Xmas references above, he saves his relationship with his wife - named Holly - when he foregoes a material Christmas present (the Rolex) - and kills the bad guy.

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This is a fantastic list. I said this earlier in the thread, and last year apparently, but this is way more of a Christmas movie than a ton of others.
Why is Home Alone considered a Christmas movie? It’s just a movie about $hitty parents, a brat, and two criminally stupid thieves that takes place in December.
I think it is a Christmas movie but:
1- Die Hard is more of a Christmas movie
2- What you said is still true. What crappy parents.
The lead actress character’s name is Holly.

Not a coincidence.

And no debate: intentionally made Christmas movie.
Thanks for liking my post from last year. I literally just finished watching it on TV for the 2nd time this year. This is another clear non-coincidence. Holly appears in Die Hard 1 and 2 (both around Christmas) but not in 3, 4 or 5 which all take place in non-winter conditions.
 
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I watched Die Hard this past weekend. There's was this little line, "I didn't think the Japanese celebrated Christmas".

Maybe we should just say it's about a Christmas party gone wrong.
 
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