Exactly She's walked into a great job at a quality University with the resources to compete with most of her peers. She'll fine...
I feel sorry for Beth Goetz
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If you were alive/a fan in 1997, then you would remember the back half of that season and how fans turned on him. Obviously 1998 was the nail.
Interesting usage of the word "mess." Not the word I would have described a ten win team with. By "interesting", I mean, you are an idiot.
"Laughing stock", lmao. Anyone laughing at a ten win team is an idiot.
Speak for yourself in regards to which coaches you would like to keep
I was...and people were certainly disappointed, but I wouldn't say fans turned on him.
If Hayden had decided to continue to coach after 1998 the vast majority of fans would have been ok with it.
Bonzo, buddy we need more money to meet contemporaneous salary expectations. So, Goetz has to raise that money as well-given KF an McC's retirement are close just based on their ages Iowa is going to need much more money in the near future.
Nobody is comparing B1G titles, to B12 titles -- especially not this B12. That said, we're not a very attractive destination for WRs -- and that's really what it takes to run an offense that threatens all three levels. So, if we're serious about getting to a higher level then a change in offensive philosophy (moving KF along, letting Lester run everything on O) will be necessary.
Public perception, media perception…Iowa has been a pretender benefiting from the west schedule. Jokenof an offense with a stubborn KF at the helm. I’m fine if he stays as a figurehead, but jets the OC and DC run the program.
She has some work to do but in now way does she have a mess. The Bluder situation took care of itself and KF is going nowhere until he is ready. The main cog IMO is getting Fran to move on. The mens BB needs a new direction imo but it is far from a mess.
I eye witnessed Fran and Beth hugging on sideline at an Iowa football game earlier this football season. No animosity there between the two. I think this team is gonna surprise more than people think. Good young talent on the team.
I agree, but I am also in the camp of 16 years is too long for the level of success that we have had.
Don’t be….somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 programs higher thought of than Iowa w/coaches making a shit ton more money started in the top 25 and are out, most w/more losses than Iowa.
Quite frankly our fan base is so spoiled we needed to lose some game to teams we should have beat so we don’t have to hear from the dopes always bitching about not winning the right games.
This fanbase is indeed a laughing stock however.
I haven’t been on this board for months until this last week and I think it’s awesome we now have people questioning & giving Phil Parker advice.
It’s the nature of the beast…go visit the OU & USC, Florida, FSU, etc boards.
Every fan base for every team should have to endure a five or six year stretch of sub 500 football every 20 years so they can get their priorities and bullshit straight
And when he loses 4/5 games next year he’ll be like every other coach this board has pined for
Bingo. 10 games in and people just know! That's how it will always be. Season after season. Indiana a national power.
More to the point I’ve been on this board for 20+ years there’s literally been 20, 25 possibly 30 coaches, this board has been up in arms about how they’re going to make Iowa irrelevant and how good a coach they are.
I mean hell recently, the Kansas Coach, Kansas State, TCU, etc. etc. were the greatest coaches in history.
Fans are generally reactionary & too myopic to have access to message boards. Same tripe on every board.
Honestly I enjoy sports less and less, but you have to admit the defense letting us down is quite poetic 😂
We had no business losing to ISU, UCLA & and I have no clue what the hell that MSU mess was.
But ISU had no business losing to Tech & KU and Notre Dame had no business losing to Northern Illinois. K-St lost to Houston….
I mean the list is 100 miles long. Coaches lose. I mean you’d think everyone was new
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Yep. It's hard to win and even harder when the top 10 are stacked with a talent above what we can have in our best year. That allows for greater margins for errors during games and injury replacements without much drop off. And Lester has only had one partial season, and he didn't get a shot at the first portal window and not a lot of time with the second portal window in the spring. We have missed Cooper and Joe Evans badly. In the games we have lost our DL is just not getting any push and not stopping runners.
She walked into the job following the worst AD in what very might well be the history of college sports and started off on a high note by firing junior, she's bought herself some leeway and fran now knows the free pass is over. Aside from not knowing what to do with ferentz I'd say she's in a decent spot but there are a lot of power conference schools that have no idea what to do with their football coach. Too much money to eat then go out and pay another guy even more or just ride it out as the cash cow becomes even more irrelevant.
just goes to show you.... fans have nothing to do with anything. except ticket sales.
I have never liked beth really and don't feel sorry for her and don't care. never liked barta either or any of these people. I just watch football. not really a b-ball fan. until CC22 then I watched.
I was around and there was no internet, well, beginnings of internet. the media was newspapers and WHO talk radio. jim zabel. nobody was really "turning" on him. they were wondering when he was going to retire. newspapers walked gently around him cause he was respected.
