Interesting Gesell stat

[gablefan73]

That was a clear reach in foul which the refs had made similar calls all night on both Mike and Sapp. Typically, if a foul isn't called on a play like that, the ball is retained by the offense due to the act of reaching in. In this case, the ref was motioning as if the ball had deflected off Mike's chest, which in the replay it clearly did not and only in slow motion could you see that it barely went off Mike's finger tips last. It was not long after that play that Sapp was called for a reach foul on a shot that the replay showed was all ball.

And compare it to the fouls that only let Mike play 2 minutes in the first half.

 

[mazda1]

We all want Uthoff with the ball in his hands, but other teams know this too. He doesn't come and demand the ball and teams work to deny the pass to him. Mike burns clock to ensure no time is left if we miss.

We'd all like an open look for Jok or Uthoff but they don't just magicly happen. I would be in favor of trying to run Uthoff or Jok off a double screen like we did with Matt to get a catch and shoot look. They would need to improve their cuts and we would need to screen better.

 

[gablefan73]

My guess is the ball was supposed to go to Utoff of Jok, Gessel just didn't execute the call. Fran is right to expect more of his senior point.

Compare what Wojo did to MG on that last play to any of Woody's foul. It is sad the double standard that these officials have sometimes. Mike had a bad overall game but we got the W which is all that matters.

 

[gablefan73]

Did you bother to watch the overtime? Fran is in the bottom tier of Big coaches? Wow. Guess we will just have to disagree.

Fran schooled the Florida State coach. He was about to cry when Fran called the brilliant OOB play. I noticed it wasn't a very friendly post game handshake between the two. I think the fsu coach still thought something had to be illegal about what Fran did. It was great.

 

[cidhawkeye]

Interesting end of regulation. Mike didn't have many choices on that play. That set was similar to previous sets but the movement or lack of was not how they had run it previously. The spacing was off and way to much standing.

 

[Auger]

Fran tends to coach sometimes like he is a player. He needs to utilize his timeouts better. More so now because his veteran team isnt playing like a veteran team. We had way to many turnovers in key areas, failed to box out when the game was on the line, couldnt rebound when we needed to, forced things when they werent there, and missed free throws when they could have been nails in the coffin. Not sure why Fran didnt call a TO towards the end of regulation. MG dribbling into defenders and throwing the ball away instead of calling a TO shows these veterans need to be coached better. They needed a TO before that final play. If you look at where the other 4 Hawks were when Gesell tried to throw the ball back out it looks like nobody knew what to do or what was going on.

 

[Auger]

Gesell is actually lucky that ball hit the backboard. That ball could have easily been a game winning assist for the other team. If he knew where he was throwing that ball it wouldnt have hit the back of the hoop.

 

[gablefan73]

I would like the ball goes through Woody at the end. He can shoot or pass based on what the defense throws at him. The other team wouldn't expect it either. I don't like having our guards drive at the end of the games because refs tend to swallow their whistle. That was an obvious foul last night but it is rarely called and our pg's aren't tall enough to get passes/shots off while getting fouled. I expect to see Fran adjust to this in future close games.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

On the final play of regulation, Mike's pass would have been to Uthoff for an open 3, if it hadn't hit the back board. FSU's speed and length had a lot to do with why Mike got stuck so far under the basket.

I would like to see more movement earlier in shot clocks by the players without the ball. It did seem like we had Mike or Sapp dribbling the ball 30 feet from the basket with the other guys standing around more than usual last night. Maybe they were gassed, but waiting until the shot clock is around 10 sec to run a play puts a lot of pressure on the PG.

 

[bravehawks1]

I agree with the comments about Fran being a terrible end game manager. He has a very strong tendency to take to many timeouts to the lockerroom at the end of the game. While there is something to be said about senior leadership and not giving FSU a chance to set up anything since they were out of timeouts, but what is more important: Your team knows what to do or the other team knows what to do? It is most important for your own team to know and if you have confidence in your plays/sets, call a time out and you come out with 2 or 3 plays depending on what adjustment the other team may make. It is just like an audible in football. However, Fran just stood there and did virtually nothing. And if you are good, what you draw up in the timeout should be better than what the defense has to offer too. Instead, we stand for 20 seconds and then try and make something happen by running at the basket. Run a play, set, etc and make the defense do something. What Fran had MG to simply turned in to the other 4 Iowa players becoming fans.

 

[RocknRollface]

Fran tends to coach sometimes like he is a player. He needs to utilize his timeouts better. More so now because his veteran team isnt playing like a veteran team. We had way to many turnovers in key areas, failed to box out when the game was on the line, couldnt rebound when we needed to, forced things when they werent there, and missed free throws when they could have been nails in the coffin. Not sure why Fran didnt call a TO towards the end of regulation. MG dribbling into defenders and throwing the ball away instead of calling a TO shows these veterans need to be coached better. They needed a TO before that final play. If you look at where the other 4 Hawks were when Gesell tried to throw the ball back out it looks like nobody knew what to do or what was going on.

Normally I get the gamble of not calling a TO because the defense isn't totally in position. Sometimes it helps the O sometimes it help the D. Its a coin flip.

But this time the D was totally set up and in position.

The odds were in favor of calling a TO there IMO.

I suppose FSU could have made substitutions to put their best defenders out there or switched up their D.

 

[RocknRollface]

And I say we ran the same set several times and it was working all night. I'm not trying to be a teacher here but a set play is a play practiced such as something as simple as a pick and roll. It does not have to be called from the bench, but it could be. And it certainly doesn't require a timeout. Several times during the course of the game Gesell or Clemmons drove into the lane on the right side, continued under the basket and then passed out to an open player on the left wing. I do not recall a single time that the play didn't work, including some passes from the wing back out to the front. But nothing had gone wrong until the final drive by Gesell at the end of regulation, when his defender beat him to the line and Gesell had to try to pass while going out of bounds.

To those that think that wasn't a set play, or couldn't recognize that we ran it several times, I will simply point out that you MUST remember Dr. Tom's old set play at the end of a shot clock? With ten seconds to go it was a double screen and the point guard would chose which screen to use on his way to driving to the hoop. Worked great for a guy like Woolridge. Was embarrassing when we had Skinner. But certainly anyone who paid a bit of attention can recall that play. And we didn't use a timeout every time to run it.

And finally, the point that calling a time out wouldn't be beneficial to FSU completely disregards the fact that without it they could not discuss what to do if we made a shot, nor did they get a chance to defend our inbounds pass after a timeout. Would that they had a time out left, I'd have been all for calling one of our own.

Dan, were going to have to disagree on driving under the hoop being a set. If thats a set then everything in basketball is a set. You'll see that done all day in any basketball game played anywhere.

If it was a called "clear out iso" for Mike than I guess you could maybe call it that.

As for last shot scenarios.

Ideally you take the last shot so what they could do on O is irrelevant. Again, you make that clear in the TO.

We didn't call the TO and they ended up getting the last shot.

Iowa usually does really well on indbounds plays, like at the end of the OT, so I really don't understand why we wouldn't want to use one there.

 

[badben44]

So glad Fran is the coach and not most of you guys.

If you have a team with no timeouts on the road and a team of upper classmen on the court with a pg that you trust you call the play and DO NOT call a time out and let those other guys set up a defense.

Hinestly that is coach feeling at rhe time. I have done both and would rather not let the other coach have any say on how that game is gonna end. Other coach has to cross his fingers and hope for the best at that pojnt.. dont do the bad guys any favors and let your guys on the court win or lose.

 

[kzoohawk80]

So glad Fran is the coach and not most of you guys.

If you have a team with no timeouts on the road and a team of upper classmen on the court with a pg that you trust you call the play and DO NOT call a time out and let those other guys set up a defense.

Hinestly that is coach feeling at rhe time. I have done both and would rather not let the other coach have any say on how that game is gonna end. Other coach has to cross his fingers and hope for the best at that pojnt.. dont do the bad guys any favors and let your guys on the court win or lose.

Ever watch Tom Izzo coach? That guy is a master at calling sets after timeouts at the end of the game. I'm sure your glad he doesn't coach Iowa with your philosophy. Again Fran is one of the few coaches to not call timeouts in those situations. Fran's out of bounds plays and plays after timeouts tend to be good so it's a mystery to me why he doesn't use timeouts in late game situations. I think it was the Dayton game when they where down 3 late and had another bad position with Jok trying to jump into a defender on a 3 and airballing.

 

[CanadaHawk]

It is not just the turnovers that become problematic, it is, also, the out of control drives that result in wild shots and a lost possession as a result that exacerbates the problem. That is the thing that I want to see Mike clean up. Make better decisions when to or when not to take it to the hoop. He needs to finish or get to the line most every time.

Mike did make some key finishes at the hoop too. I blame the debauchal at the end of regulation on Fran. A play should have been drawn up as our biggest advantage vs FSU was between the ears. But I think Fran recognized that Mike was making some poor decisions too. That's why Sapp spent some big stretches at the point.

 

[hawk-i bob]

Just for clarity...coaches cannot call TO's unless a dead ball. Which I think is a stupid new rule. In general..I like late game TO's to set up the offense but I also understand the opportunity for your ball handlers to run offense without giving the opponents coach the opportunity to setup his defense.

Its a little damn if you do damn if you don't. I agree a TO in the Dayton game would have been a better option than what we ended up with.

 

[DanL53]

Dan, were going to have to disagree on driving under the hoop being a set. If thats a set then everything in basketball is a set. You'll see that done all day in any basketball game played anywhere.

If it was a called "clear out iso" for Mike than I guess you could maybe call it that.

As for last shot scenarios.

Ideally you take the last shot so what they could do on O is irrelevant. Again, you make that clear in the TO.

We didn't call the TO and they ended up getting the last shot.

Iowa usually does really well on indbounds plays, like at the end of the OT, so I really don't understand why we wouldn't want to use one there.

Well, rest assured that my respect for your thoughts doesn't change. I know you know the game and always enjoy reading your posts.

 

[PhantomFlyer]

Ever watch Tom Izzo coach? That guy is a master at calling sets after timeouts at the end of the game. I'm sure your glad he doesn't coach Iowa with your philosophy. Again Fran is one of the few coaches to not call timeouts in those situations. Fran's out of bounds plays and plays after timeouts tend to be good so it's a mystery to me why he doesn't use timeouts in late game situations. I think it was the Dayton game when they where down 3 late and had another bad position with Jok trying to jump into a defender on a 3 and airballing.

Good post. It's not like Iowa (the past couple seasons) has a great history of success in the end of games when they don't call the TO in that situation. Izzo, Ryan, Coach K, etc have done a great job of calling set plays in that situation.

I could understand no TO if Iowa was getting a rebound and then pushing the ball up the court to try to get a last second shot. In this situation the defense was set and too much clock. Call the TO and set something up. Ironically set plays are probably one of Fran's great strengths in game coaching.