So I can stereotype blacks without you bitching about it right? Like you just did with cops
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My aunt's lesbian wedding was pretty much the exact same as any other wedding I've been to.
Let me know when cops can't quit being cops.
Being a cop is a choice. Being black isn't.
No one is calling the dude a saint.
A lot of us just realize that cops shouldn't be able to kill citizens.
I honestly wonder how the public would react to Tennessee v. Garner these days. People are brainwashed into thinking the cops are the good guys. Bunch of needles with guns to compensate.
Not all cops are the same, it's a diverse group, as are blacks...you're the one with the lack of logic. Stereotyping cups is ok based on a few..but stereotyping blacks on a few..or more....that's just wrong. Either they are both wrong or it's ok for either
Not for JC according to the Jehovah's I spoke with today. Jesus had a mission, not choice.
Also, among blacks here at the academy they talk about acting white.....it's a different behavior, one that's learned.
What academy is that? The racist academy? Look closely at what you just said:
Acting white-- is a different--- learned--- behavior. That's literally one of the stupidest and most racist things you have said.
No, it really isn't.
I like you. You seem like a reasonable poster most of the time, but you're dead wrong on this. Cops choose to be cops. Just like you could say "lawyers are scumbags who chase ambulances" and it would a generalization that you would be free to make and I wouldn't freak out about it (1 because I'm not doing that type of law, 2 because I'm CHOOSING to be a lawyer).
Or, I could say "Chiropractors are quacks who think cracking someone's back is going to cure them of cancer" and it might offend you (I think you do that, but I might be confusing you with someone else), but you could, well, quit being a chiro or not care (and I seriously saw this on Facebook from one of my quack chiro friends, along with some article on why babies should be chiros). You can't quit being black. You can't quit "acting black" because there's no such thing.
My bus driver, the woman sitting next to me on the bus this morning, the kid I studied with all day, the professor whose exam my friend took today, the friend who took that exam. All black. All act in a completely different way.
I'll put it this way. You wouldn't want someone to expect you to be anti-abortion or anti-gay marriage because you're white, would you? Overwhelmingly the people who push those agendas are white, so they're acting white, and you're white, so you better act white too, right?
Look, defend cops all you want. There are some great ones. I've singled out an IC cop (Mike Smithey) for being one of the nicest/most decent people I know. I have another friend that is on the UIPD and he's a great guy. But generally, I'm not a fan of cops. And the cops in bigger cities, generally, are not a fan of black people. Those are the observations I've made. Those are what statistics show.
SLIEB, I'm taking about the Clarinda Academy, it's a juvenile delinquent center. The black kids talk about acting white Versus acting black....so are they racist?
No, they've just been indoctrinated into thinking how they should act is "white."
And anyone who reinforces that stereotype with those kids should be punched in the face for being so stupid.
stats don't look good for young black men.....should we judge them all by those stats? We are all biased, you don't like cops, I'm not a fan of politically correct people who push pc. Do you know why? We are human, we learn through our experiences and what we see.
where do you think they learn it..it's a culture thing....and unfortunately for that race, that shitty culture is prominent. You know that...you can say that's racist, but stats and and images show you otherwise. It's not all black, some whites have that same cultural background...they are lost.
And we learn though, I dunno, this novel concept of listening and getting to know people.
Anyway, this is devolving into an idiotic discussion about a term that makes me angrier than hell and is pointless. It's something that I used to think too, when I was surrounded by very few black people and just went off the movies and the media. Then I grew up and realized that there is no "acting black" just like there is no "acting Chinese" or "acting white" or "acting Muslim." It's an idiotic line of thinking. But I don't have the time or patience to go through these arguments over and over.
The stats say that black people are going to be disproportionately targeted and harmed by the police. We can get back to talking about why that is.
We can get back on track, just realize dude, I'm not the one saying acting black.....it's the kids who say that....and that comes not from us white foks. Btw....I try to change perceptions about my profession, or white guys my age...but in the end, I just try to use my head and not mess up . Do better...that kind of thing
Just because others say it doesn't mean that they should, nor should we keep pushing that narrative.
It creates an environment where someone feels they have to act in a certain way to be accepted by others, simply because of their skin color.
Not to mention is makes things like "polite" and "respectful" synonymous with "white" and "disrespectful" and "loud" synonymous with "black" causing the burden to shift onto a black person to prove to you that he's polite or respectful, instead of you just assuming he is.
yes...but according to many of these kids, that's there real environment, and it's pervasive in urban culture....even among other races to some degree.
But generally, I'm not a fan of blacks. And the blacks in bigger cities, generally, are much more violent people. Those are the observations I've made. Those observations are backed up by statistics.
Sure, there's problems in urban black neighborhoods, anyone can see that.
Calling the behavior you see in problem areas "acting black" is what I have a problem with. That's all.
You're trying way too hard.
Next time a cop is born a cop or a black man chooses to be a black man, you may have a point.
Otherwise you're just looking foolish.
Also, this discussion is stale. Hopefully we can get back to the topic at hand, which was a black man dying in the city of Baltimore, while in police custody, due to spinal injuries, and what that means in 2015 America, and not some dumb term people use when they want to be racist.
Take that up with a large segment of the black community then. I also disagree with your view on cops, but get that it's your opinion, forged by your experiences....just as my opinions have been.
Sure. I'd tell the next person who I hear saying that the same thing. But, I didn't see them saying it. I saw you. So, why the hell should I not say something to you? Because you "didn't start it"?
Grow up.
Realize the difference between someone who chooses to go into a profession and someone who is born with a different skin color.
Stats are stats Slieb, what pepper is saying is as factual as what you said. The stats aren't about choice.
Going into a profession where people are regarded as dicks is different than being born into a family from African heritage.
First step of getting out of a hole is to stop digging.
If a large percentage of that race has certain characteristics..say 84% out of wedlock child birth, is that due to melanin content or them making piss poor choices? You think all chiropractors are the same, lawyers, cops, etc. They aren't, but people will make judgments based on large percentage of their experiences. I get that you have white guilt, good for you. I don't.
Slieb, let's agree that everyone had bias. Based on their own experiences, it's human nature. Agreed?
It has to do with a lot of things. Not just piss poor choices. But it has nothing to do with their skin color. Because they have black skin doesn't make them more prone to raw dogging a girl and leaving. The skin didn't make them do that.
No, I don't think all cops/lawyers/chiros/prostitutes/etc are the same. I think that, generally speaking, cops in big cities, dislike dealing with black people and act/react differently than dealing with white people. Similarly, I think cops in college towns dislike dealing with drunk kids and act/react differently. That's what my original post was conveying, before we got down this rabbit hole where somehow saying "acting black" isn't blatantly racist.
I generally dislike cops. I generally like chiropractors (I only know like 6, they all seem like good people), but I think chiropractic is junk science. I think that there are distinctions between all of these things. The biggest one, is that you can choose to go to law school, Palmer, or the police academy. You can't choose who you are at birth. Telling someone to stop "acting black" is f-ed up and shows that the person saying it is an ignorant jackass.
Can I say black culture in inner cities needs to change. It's obvious, but did that make it ok to say? Btw, it's not junk science, it's just hard to do placebo adjusting, and no money driving research...no meds to sell. 
I just typed a statistically true statement, (future) counselor. If you choose to deal in the law, you might want to loosen up when presented with such facts.
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Can I say black culture in inner cities needs to change. It's obvious, but did that make it ok to say? Btw, it's not junk science, it's just hard to do placebo adjusting, and no money driving research...no meds to sell.
Haha, for the second part, I actually think it's a great profession if used well. And I think big pharma is a dirty little secret of the US medical profession that no one wants to really investigate. I mostly give you a hard time, as the son of a radiologist, it was beaten in me not to ever see a chiro (although, I have noticed my left shoulder is significantly lower on deadlifts so maybe I do need some new alignment).
Sure, we can say inner city culture, and even predominately black culture needs a change. Some may claim that's a distinction without a difference, but I disagree. I think that saying that the "culture" in black neighborhoods, predominately black areas of inner cities, etc. is one thing. I think saying that Billy (who for this example is Black) disrespects his teacher, he's "acting black" is an entirely different thing. It's ascribing a characteristic to Billy due to his skin color, not describing the pervasive culture of a geographical area. What is worst to me is probably saying the well-mannered and polite black kid is "acting white." That's straight up one of the most ignorant and screwed up things I hear semi-regularly.
This situation is only partly based in race. It's more about the police abusing their power and killing citizens who are innocent until proven guilty. And, then working collectively to cover things up.
Citizens are getting tired of it.
Citizens are getting tired of it.
You generally not liking blacks is a statistically true statement?
First step of getting out of a hole is to stop digging. This argument is a clear loser for you. Try a new one.
Times have changed slieb..I get referrals from doctors of all varieties. Occasionally, I'll catch something the rads miss on film. Anyway, I'm beat, was up at 4 to hunt.
What does make blacks all over the world have so many children they can't take care of then? Is it the evil white man in Africa that has caused this?
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