in the 2nd game of the season. Gonzaga just beat NDS 86-76. I know the comparisons don't translate all across the board but IMO it's pretty telling that the Bison almost scored 80 points on a 2 seed. If Gonzaga plays against Iowa the way they did against NDS, Iowa wins going away and the NCAA will finally get their much-pined-for match up, Alfraud vs Iowa and the Iowa fan base. I don't know if I'm just still flying high because of Iowa's dominating win or what but I can see Iowa beating a lot of these teams easily (Utah, Georgetown, San Diego St).....except for Duke. And I would give us a puncher's chance of winning that one. Anyway, it's great to be able to have these conversations after soooooooo many years of being on the outside looking in.
Iowa beat North Dakota St pretty handily, 87-56 on 11/17
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FWIW, I thought NDSU looked improved from where they were in December.
What gave me a bit of encouragement was watching NDSU's 6'6 "center" score in a variety of ways over Zag's big man.
....just checked the box score: Werner was 10/14 and 22pts. Every shot I saw were inside FT line. I think Gabe could do some damage on offense.
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What gave me a bit of encouragement was watching NDSU's 6'6 "center" score in a variety of ways over Zag's big man.
....just checked the box score: Werner was 10/14 and 22pts. Every shot I saw were inside FT line. I think Gabe could do some damage on offense.
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Another common opponent is Pepperdine.
Iowa beat them by 11 early on in the season.
Gonzaga beat them by 2 (@ pepp), 8 (@ zaga), and 18 in the WCC tournament. I could be wrong but I thought Pepperdine had the lead against Gonzaga at half in the tourney.
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Iowa beat them by 11 early on in the season.
Gonzaga beat them by 2 (@ pepp), 8 (@ zaga), and 18 in the WCC tournament. I could be wrong but I thought Pepperdine had the lead against Gonzaga at half in the tourney.
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Tough to use comparative theory, b/c it rarely, if ever holds up unless obvious.
So many factors/variables.
Iowa most likely played stiffer defense, yet BOTH Zags and Iowa scored 86/87 points.
Zags gave up way more, yet NDSU shot 50% from 3pt and 53% FG, they shot 26% vs Iowa.
Credit to Iowa for overall D, yet IF you watched game, several of those shots were either 5 or 6 feet behind 3 pt line, fade-aways from the corner, and some crazy, no-look rainbows in the post.
Dexter Werner scored a career high 22 pts, when we've held most post presences from Arizona, Georgia, UCLA, St Johns, SMU, Memphis, etc in check all season long.
The little thick post player from NDSU stated post-game:
"Honestly it was just a little blurry, really," Werner said. "I told Coach that's how we practice it. I trip on a guy's foot and fade away and bank it in. You know, sometimes you got to keep it going. I took some looks I probably wouldn't regularly take, but I was hitting."
I think this puts it in perspective, also, the NDSU coach admitted he did something he's never done at half-time, told his players to scrap all offense and just play. go one-on-one, take risks, just shoot whatever daylight you have...they didn't run an offense in second half and we didn't respond well until game was close, then Pangos said enough.
Ya know, Wisconsin, for instance only beat Coastal Carolina by 15, didn't look that impressive, yet no mention here. And Coastal Carolina shot terribly.
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So many factors/variables.
Iowa most likely played stiffer defense, yet BOTH Zags and Iowa scored 86/87 points.
Zags gave up way more, yet NDSU shot 50% from 3pt and 53% FG, they shot 26% vs Iowa.
Credit to Iowa for overall D, yet IF you watched game, several of those shots were either 5 or 6 feet behind 3 pt line, fade-aways from the corner, and some crazy, no-look rainbows in the post.
Dexter Werner scored a career high 22 pts, when we've held most post presences from Arizona, Georgia, UCLA, St Johns, SMU, Memphis, etc in check all season long.
The little thick post player from NDSU stated post-game:
"Honestly it was just a little blurry, really," Werner said. "I told Coach that's how we practice it. I trip on a guy's foot and fade away and bank it in. You know, sometimes you got to keep it going. I took some looks I probably wouldn't regularly take, but I was hitting."
I think this puts it in perspective, also, the NDSU coach admitted he did something he's never done at half-time, told his players to scrap all offense and just play. go one-on-one, take risks, just shoot whatever daylight you have...they didn't run an offense in second half and we didn't respond well until game was close, then Pangos said enough.
Ya know, Wisconsin, for instance only beat Coastal Carolina by 15, didn't look that impressive, yet no mention here. And Coastal Carolina shot terribly.
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Love the enthusiasm but the transitive property doesn't work in sports generally. And NDSU last night was definitely improved from the team we played. They were cashing some pretty outstanding shots.
I hope Gabe rediscovers the confidence he had earlier in the year. Outside of the Indiana game he hasn't taken more than a couple of shots per game in the last 5 games. I'd love to see both Olaseni and Oglesby have season high scoring games in the NCAA Tourney.
Beating a developmental team (North Dakota State) by 30 early in the non-conference season is different than playing them in March. Just as Iowa has improved markedly throughout the season so have the Bison. In my opinion it is not really a fair comparison.
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This post was edited on 3/21 5:10 PM by MTHawkeyes43
I like how you continue to pass off NDSU's performance against Gonzaga as blind luck. Keep doing that, and again thank you for not shooting the ball well on Sunday. We really do appreciate it.
