Greg Helmers tried to choke me out when he was a bouncer at either the field house or Union. Made fun of him for how bad he sucked after he called me short (played him in high school and he was average at best against decent competition-how he got a scholarship i have no idea... and Antonio Ramos is another one. I blame Lehman for trying to recruit for Tom and then blaming it on others). Working at the athletic department and befriending Hand, Fullerton, Eustice, didn't work out well for him.
You're really trying too hard, pine. I know the ICPD "wronged" you or one of your family/ friends but just stop. You sit in the stands with one of ICs best and you still take this stance or did you two fall out?
I personally know, like, and respect many police officers. Including him. And, I don't believe he would have ever behaved like we saw in that video. That, in part, is why he is where he is today.
So we need mental health professional/substance abuse councilors on staff of every town in America on call at 1:00 a.m? That's not happening.
I've never defended joy kelly, not sure where you got that. I'd prefer she move along.
Good officers don't believe in your unequivocal stance about law enforcement that you've repeatedly shown over and over again here. You have your mind made up on everything over the years before an investigation is even made. Your posts prove it out. That's why I asked who touched you in a bad place and you never responded. Carry on in your crusade to take down all those that wronged your family and you years ago.
Not sure your experience with addiction but the best councilor in the world isn't getting someone to quit unless that individual wants to stop.
My guess is most officers disagree with your stance in this particular instance. You're just too stubborn to admit it.
He'll keep doubling down. He's the Joe of whatever side he chooses but will never look in the mirror. I've seen it firsthand.
I'll rephrase it, what has shaped your views of law enforcement locally as it has affected you and your family or friends?
This is stupid. Having a wife that’s a social worker, you know what the first thing she does if she has a potential encounter with a violent intoxicated person? Call the cops. This fantasy of having social workers/counselors deal with this is just that, a fantasy.
It seems like the first two officers were doing a pretty good job of getting her to calm down. Things seemed to escalate again when the new officer arrived and took over.
I would pay good money to watch a counselor attempt to de-escalate that situation. Lololol.
That wasn't because of anything officer 3 did, that was because she didn’t want to get arrested, taken for a ride in the back of the paddy wagon.
I know there was a red headed cop with glasses with the name Mebus. He came and talked to bar employees one day to give us the police expectations of how we handled various situations.
Not trying to beat you up. Have enjoyed your company firsthand. You just seem to have a weird sword to die on when it comes to law enforcement. We are all good. Let's hit up Blackstone or Shakespeare's?
She cannot be far from it, but I guess she hasn't hit bottom, yet. She needs to figure it out soon, though. She's gonna die from an OD, alcohol poisoning, choking on her own vomit, or in a fiery car crash while drunked up. Hopefully she doesn't take anyone else out.
It looks like you might get a prosthetic leg kick across your jaw.
Never a bad choice for you two. Let me know so I can step in between in you two clash.
Lol... haven't been in a fight since college. I'm honestly just curious about the LE hate. I know you both and think you are good guys. We can take it offline to have a true convo. I probably called pine out more than I should but he made the broad statements about LE years ago and has never backed down. Someone obviously triggered him. He won't say why, which is cool but as adamant as he is I would think he'd have something to back it up.
Counselor would know the right words to use and not spend 10 minutes trying to comfort them and hear their side of the story.
Would hope so and have to agree. The one you sit with is one of the finest as well. Have had a cold beverage or two with him and some good Leo conversations.
Not sure I get the "one you sit with is one of the finest as well" comment but I'd certainly enjoy a beverage with you both some time.
