This might be the most inaccurate thing ever posted on here. You do remember Tom drove through the night to PA to make sure Kemerer came here right? And how Tom and Terry were the ones that got Spencer to come? I believe it was Terry that was at Gabe Arnold’s house first day of contact. While M* may do the most work of the staff, Tom and Terry do their fair share.
ISU finished fifth or higher in each of his years as coach. Look up how many years they have finished fifth or higher since he left.
I don’t think anyone is saying ISU has had a better coach since then
He wouldn’t have had Ruth. Cael likely does win a few titles at ISU, but he doesn’t win them early on and who knows how that changes things moving forward.
Haha, Michigan just cleaned out northwestern. I said we will be doing well just to stay ahead of Ohio State and Michigan
To me it is pretty simple, but I'm not the one doing the work. With that said people need to quit giving any members of the staff a pass until recruiting improves.
Trust me I’ve heard/seen some of your thoughts and proposals. Let’s just say this program is better off without your input.
Hmmm, the only actual staff "change" I've proposed was adding/changing to a recruiting coordinator. .....but you're right that wouldn't help.
Adding a full time recruiting coordinator would be awesome and help the coaches recruit. Wouldn’t even have to be a wrestler.
Not likely. Not a secret at all! Take away Ruth and other PA guys, he would not be winning titles.
Very likely. I mean when they get top end talent in Ames many other recruits usually. Just like when they got Carr…….oh wait.
RDietz is there so you're good to go.I haven’t started posting on On3 yet but I see some posts there. And Mike Z isn’t the mod. (And I like Mike, but that’s another story.)
That said, someone already signed up as SPOONER there so I’d have to find a new monicker. If someone did it to screw with me, I have to respect that.
That's a pretty optimistic prediction with nothing to support it with.
His track record at PSU might give some insight that he would be successful at other schools, given enough time.
He would have had Matt Brown too and I'm sure Andrew Long would have stayed in Ames, or maybe not.
Possibly. But, for example, was Nick Saban anywhere near as successful at Michigan State as at LSU and Alabama? There’s a lot to be said for being in a recruiting hotbed
I think the Saban-Carl comparison is a good one.
Michigan must feel much better about them than what they have, but they are not PSU material
Agree, if savanna was a great coach he would have kicked ass in the NFL and Michigan State. He would not have reached this legendary status, not even close.
His championship at LSU was his 9th year as a head coach. I think within the next six years of coaching Sanderson would've won at least one at ISU.
Yeah, both guys are good additions for Michigan. Ayala beat DeAugustino 6-5 in the 2022 dual.
Then why didn't PSU win one in my lifetime ? Prior to his arrival in 2009 they had one.
I don’t think anyone is saying Carl isn’t a great coach.
I'm no Nick Saban fan, not even close. But he went to Alabama because he wanted more control of personnel. He was dying to sign Drew Brees but the front office wouldn't sign off because he didn't pass their physical. Instead they shoved Dante Culpepper down his throat and he knew he'd never win with that load. So he checked out. What might have Saban done with Brees at QB for 10 years? We'll never know.
Matt Brown and Frank Molinaro won championships are were not elite recruits. Brown was in the 70s and Molinaro was in the 30s in their senior year recruiting rankings.
They said he got hurt in his first match out of redshirt which was vs McKee.
