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WhoaNellieCy said:
Ya, good idea, but tried that before. When ISU wins (10 of last 21), Iowa collective wisdom says it was our super bowl, took all american efforts by ISU, Iowa came out flat, ISU would not win at Kinnick, bad ref calls, and you're lucky you played us early in the year as Iowa would win at at end of year. Have I got that right? :)
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How do you explain this nellie?

Last 16 years, Iowa 11-5. Last 11 years, Iowa 8-3. Last 6 years, Iowa 5-1. Last 4 years, Iowa 4-0. Iowa 3 Campbell 0. All of what you said here is true, Hawk fans do say that. Now let's talk about the recent trends in the rivalry. I'll start, Iowa is in control.
 
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Btowngold said:
Certainly have to around here
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I hear you. Ever since Iowa shut down Iowa State's vaunted offense and exposed their weaknesses the clone fanatics have been out in droves to make sense of it all and draw on 'simple' excuses that help them cope with the unexpected results. I get it - it has to be tough to have such high expectations built up all year (around a supposedly dynamic offense) only to see one team completely dominate the line of scrimmage and show others how 'simple' it is to completely neutralize the clone's star offensive players.
 
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buchs said:
I hear you. Ever since Iowa shut down Iowa State's vaunted offense and exposed their weaknesses the clone fanatics have been out in droves to make sense of it all and draw on 'simple' excuses that help them cope with the unexpected results. I get it - it has to be tough to have such high expectations built up all year (around a supposedly dynamic offense) only to see one team completely dominate the line of scrimmage and show others how 'simple' it is to completely neutralize the clone's star offensive players.
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This is so true. ISU fans thought they had "arrived". They profess to be able to do better in the big10 but can't beat Iowa who they profess isn't really that good. This year they lost to TCU and OK already, proving that last year's games were the upsets we all knew they were at the time.
 
WhoaNellieCy said:
Ya, so isu would be in cellar of b1g, and a presumeably iowa would win da b12. Even though iowa/isu are 10-11 over last 21 years. Got it, understand the kool aid ;)
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Why is it ISU fans only go back 21 years to 98'. What about the 15+ years beyond that scope? I mean for arguments sake most go by multiples of 5-10 year stretches when looking at head to head match ups.
5 years- 4-1 Iowa (.800 winning %)
10 years- 7-3 Iowa (.700 winning %)
15 years- 11-4 Iowa (.733 winning %)
20 years- 11-9 Iowa (.550 winning %)
21 years the "ISU only time frame" 11-10 (.524 winning %)
25 years- 15-10 Iowa (.600 winning %)
So out of 66 meetings Iowa is 44-22 .667 winning %. Going back in series if you are ever going to find the lowest point in winning % which favors Iowa in every scenario it is 21 years. No coincidence why clone fans use this time frame.


As for Big 10 West yes it's weaker division. However since split Iowa has a 6 year stretch of playing PSU every year and in time frame with 9 games now only 1 out of 3 they miss Michigan, OSU with new schedule feature of 9 games (1 being this year). This year West is down and not that great. But look at last 2 years we had NW top 20, Wisconsin top 5 last season and the west was 4-0 in bowl games. 2 years ago had 4 teams win 9+ games and 5 win 8 in the West.
 
As much as clone fans rip on Ferentz in his 20 years he has accomplished more than ISU has in it's programs ENTIRE history. Same number of conference titles, division titles. More seasons finished ranked in the top 25 including multiple in top 10. Has more bowl appearances (including 3 major bowls. Orange 2x & Rose) and bowl wins. Has multiple 10 win seasons (something ISU has never done). Produced more all americans and 1st round draft picks etc. One of his blemishes on his resume one could argue is his winning % against ISU is less than impressive.
 
WhoaNellieCy said:
Ya, timed out while trying to read thru this a article, like where isu program is right now and how its a trending. Again, it must be nice to not have to play your big brothers, osu, mich, psu every year. ;)
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Meanwhile, Iowa sits 8-8 against these 3 over the last 10 years. By your same rational, only Kansas over the last 10 years do you have a better record. Which basically means, you are everyone's little brother.
 
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buchs said:
I hear you. Ever since Iowa shut down Iowa State's vaunted offense and exposed their weaknesses the clone fanatics have been out in droves to make sense of it all and draw on 'simple' excuses that help them cope with the unexpected results. I get it - it has to be tough to have such high expectations built up all year (around a supposedly dynamic offense) only to see one team completely dominate the line of scrimmage and show others how 'simple' it is to completely neutralize the clone's star offensive players.
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Iowa State doesn't have a vaunted offense. We have to play mistake free on that side of the ball to have a good opportunity to win with a very tough schedule. Iowa has a very good defense and we were one or two plays from winning that game in a hostile environment with no game experience the week before like Iowa had. So yes, ISU wins the Iowa game with experience the week before.
 
Btowngold said:
Yep, ISU is basically paying 3x for this game. SDSU was paid, cancellation cost us the Iowa game, and Incarnate word is getting paid. I guess lightning struck 3 times.
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That's what happens when you root for a storm brewing. ISU messed with the bull and got the horns.
 
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Btowngold said:
Iowa State doesn't have a vaunted offense. We have to play mistake free on that side of the ball to have a good opportunity to win with a very tough schedule. Iowa has a very good defense and we were one or two plays from winning that game in a hostile environment with no game experience the week before like Iowa had. So yes, ISU wins the Iowa game with experience the week before.
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You have zero inclination if this would be true or not. One thing to say "I think ISU would win if played week 1 game" as an opinion. But to state it as a fact as you just did is idiotic and obviously no way of proving.
 
Btowngold said:
Iowa State doesn't have a vaunted offense. We have to play mistake free on that side of the ball to have a good opportunity to win with a very tough schedule. Iowa has a very good defense and we were one or two plays from winning that game in a hostile environment with no game experience the week before like Iowa had. So yes, ISU wins the Iowa game with experience the week before.
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Excuses, excuses. Iowa should have won by more but missed two field goals. ISU never even sniffed the red zone after their scoring drive. What about 2nd half adjustments? What's ISU's excuses for all the other games lost to Iowa? There are 4 more in the last 6 yrs. You have one win vs Iowa in Ames since 2007. Please explain. Give me a break.
 
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iahawkeyes17 said:
You have zero inclination if this would be true or not. One thing to say "I think ISU would win if played week 1 game" as an opinion. But to state it as a fact as you just did is idiotic and obviously no way of proving.
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Not true as our OU performance was plenty good enough to beat Iowa.
 
Btowngold said:
Iowa State doesn't have a vaunted offense. We have to play mistake free on that side of the ball to have a good opportunity to win with a very tough schedule. Iowa has a very good defense and we were one or two plays from winning that game in a hostile environment with no game experience the week before like Iowa had. So yes, ISU wins the Iowa game with experience the week before.
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Mere speculation and circular reasoning.

It's absolutely amazing how Iowa State fans continue to talk about games they would have won had it not been for extenuating circumstances or _______.

Two weeks ago Iowa State got their 20th victory in 5 1/4 seasons with a win over Akron. Yet, the evidence always supports how many games Iowa State should have won simply because the Iowa State fan says so.

If you want to play that game, Iowa would have scored more points had they had game film of Iowa State's defense from Week 1.

The stupid shit you guys convince yourself of every year is astounding.
 
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Btowngold said:
Not true as our OU performance was plenty good enough to beat Iowa.
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And Iowa's 2017 performance against Ohio State should have been sufficient evidence for them to have handed Iowa the national championship trophy on the spot, as Alabama would have had no chance.:rolleyes:

Again, circular reasoning at its best. A Cyclone fan's specialty.
 
I get confused on the missed game excuse. ISU looked better early not as the game went on. They didn't have a lot of penalties and only 1 TO. Not exactly evidence that the first game missed hurt too bad. Oh yeah, Iowa played so ISU had tape (Iowa didn't), and Iowa lost their starting RB and starting LB as a result of the 1st game, and Iowa's 2 starting OT's didn't play in the first game. ISU lost their Super Bowl get over it and maybe win some games so you can stop destroying Iowa's SOS (you know the only stat ISU cares about especially after a Super Bowl loss).
 
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Page 14 and still going strong.

Smh.

Haven't read through a lot but if Btown's performance is any indicator of other ISU fans' contributions to this thread I'm glad I skipped most of it. At least Nebraska fans know when to quit.
 
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Btowngold said:
Iowa State doesn't have a vaunted offense. We have to play mistake free on that side of the ball to have a good opportunity to win with a very tough schedule. Iowa has a very good defense and we were one or two plays from winning that game in a hostile environment with no game experience the week before like Iowa had. So yes, ISU wins the Iowa game with experience the week before.
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Iowa was one or 2 plays away from winning by 24 so no isu isn’t wining that game regardless of if you play week one or not.
 
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Btowngold said:
Iowa State doesn't have a vaunted offense. We have to play mistake free on that side of the ball to have a good opportunity to win with a very tough schedule. Iowa has a very good defense and we were one or two plays from winning that game in a hostile environment with no game experience the week before like Iowa had. So yes, ISU wins the Iowa game with experience the week before.
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ISU started just fine, with a 6th year QB, LOLOLOLOL! You're idiotic play-calling week after week from Campbell wouldn't have changed. Iowa was without their starting RB, and had 4 other players coming back from suspension. 1-3!
 
BlackNGoldBleeder said:
Page 14 and still going strong.

Smh.

Haven't read through a lot but if Btown's performance is any indicator of other ISU fans' contributions to this thread I'm glad I skipped most of it. At least Nebraska fans know when to quit.
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The clown is strong in btown and nellie.

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Interestingly, Iowa State is the best defense that Iowa has played so far. Followed by Northern Illinois. Which begs the question: Did Iowa's offense really improve in weeks 3 and 4 or was it just the fact that they played worse defenses?
 
Johnsoda123 said:
Oklahoma is a pretender as one of the top teams in the country. Absolutely dynamic QB and offense. Shockingly poor defense. Bob Stoops is shaking his head.
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Their defense is average at best so far but they could get better. They have the second most efficient offense in the country next to Bama. I think their offense is enough to go undefeated in the Big 12.
 
Btowngold said:
Not true as our OU performance was plenty good enough to beat Iowa.
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Are you really that dense? You state opinion as if it would be a fact which there is absolutely no way possible of knowing. Seriously have you ever taken an English class to not understand the difference between a fact and an opinion and how they work? However with your logic that is flawed one can say your Akron or TCU performance validate the loss to Iowa.
 
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David1979 said:
Interestingly, Iowa State is the best defense that Iowa has played so far. Followed by Northern Illinois. Which begs the question: Did Iowa's offense really improve in weeks 3 and 4 or was it just the fact that they played worse defenses?
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Based on what?
 
David1979 said:
Their defense is average at best so far but they could get better. They have the second most efficient offense in the country next to Bama. I think their offense is enough to go undefeated in the Big 12.
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What I saw in their ISU and Army games was really poor tackling by their secondary, so yes that can improve.
 
David1979 said:
Interestingly, Iowa State is the best defense that Iowa has played so far. Followed by Northern Illinois. Which begs the question: Did Iowa's offense really improve in weeks 3 and 4 or was it just the fact that they played worse defenses?
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You think ISU's and NIU's Defense are better than Wisky's?
 
Btowngold said:
No, ISU is getting better every week. The reason that ISU fans are frustrated by the loss in IC is it was significantly easier to win than 5 of our first 6 games. Lightning struck twice when we didn`t get game experience.
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So why don't you use your 1976 name here?
 
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Btowngold said:
Iowa State doesn't have a vaunted offense. We have to play mistake free on that side of the ball to have a good opportunity to win with a very tough schedule. Iowa has a very good defense and we were one or two plays from winning that game in a hostile environment with no game experience the week before like Iowa had. So yes, ISU wins the Iowa game with experience the week before.
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We're going to need to start a pool before next season on what the excuse of the day will be then. Hard to believe you guys don't realize how sadly pathetic you sound. Four years in a row, a new excuse every time. ****ing loser mentality.
 
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Jizzer said:
You think ISU's and NIU's Defense are better than Wisky's?
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MepoDawg# said:
Based on what?
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Based on defensive efficiency. Here are the rankings for defensive efficiency so far this year from ESPN: As you can see, Wisconsin's defense has taken a big step back this year so far. Which is why it is too early to write off Iowa's chances of winning the West because Wisconsin is vulnerable this year.

14. Iowa
30. Penn State
33. ISU
34. NIU
37. Northwestern
41. Minnesota
50. Maryland
60. Indiana
61. Wisconsin
75. Purdue
103. Nebraska
107. Illinois
 
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