Iowa State Trashes Nebraska Basketball Program

[wneff]

Mayor can wait: Don’t expect any Iowa State men’s basketball games soon against Fred Hoiberg-coached Nebraska.

Asked by a young fan in the crowd if that was a possibility, director of athletics Jamie Pollard suggested that the only possibility might be in the NCAA tourney, quickly pointing out, “That’s one thing Nebraska hasn’t been to ever. They’ve got a little work to do before we might be seeing them on the court.’’
https://qctimes.com/sports/basketba...cle_41e4cc4f-afb0-5ebd-ae2f-aff509ccca80.html

I suppose that you could argue that going 0-7 in the big dance is metaphorically not being there, but I think Jamie is trying to be literal here. BTW, Nebraska leads the all-time series with Iowa State 131-103 (per the Nebraska media guide).

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

With Prohm at the helm, ISU can’t talk trash to anybody imo.

And I’m not sure what year he thinks that ISU will be in the tourney.

 

[anon_wic6m41528ao4]

I like ISU clowns trashing nebrasketball. Nebraska fans need to be put in their place. They are objectively one of the worst basketball programs in history. Their fans completely ignore their inferiority because they have their heads shoved so far up their cornholes.

 

[TCOOL]

Its going to take a long time for a lot of ISU fans, and apparently the AD too, to get over Fred going to Nebraska.

They were all convinced he would never coach in college again because he "hated recruiting".

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

Pollard is the perfect AD for that university and fan base.

 

[anon_bb9wlf9kj42py]

How should Pollard have replied to that question?

 

[anon_bb9wlf9kj42py]

And I’m not sure what year he thinks that ISU will be in the tourney.

It's possible next year. I wouldn't bet on it now, but there are potential avenues there.

 

[pink shizzle]

I love when your enemies are fighting each other.

 

[hawkeyeguy69]

Its going to take a long time for a lot of ISU fans, and apparently the AD too, to get over Fred going to Nebraska.

They were all convinced he would never coach in college again because he "hated recruiting".

They won't ever get over it. And Nebbie fans will only exacerbate the issue with their arrogance.

They deserve and need another couple of down years. Hope it happens.

 

[TCOOL]

This will really come to a head if Hoiberg lands the Lipsey kid out of Ames HS. That melt down will be epic on CF.

 

[TCOOL]

How should Pollard have replied to that question?

Maybe not be such a dick about it? Especially since ISU is probably going to finish somewhere around 8-10 place in the Big 12 next season.

Asked by a young fan in the crowd if that was a possibility, director of athletics Jamie Pollard suggested that the only possibility might be in the NCAA tourney, quickly pointing out, “That’s one thing Nebraska hasn’t been to ever. They’ve got a little work to do before we might be seeing them on the court.’’

 

[anon_bb9wlf9kj42py]

I actually support him being a dick about it. Some fans need to get over their Hoiberg obsession. There are some ISU fans with an Iowa obsession too, and they need to get over it. Both should be mocked. Just IMO.

 

[Legend12]

How should Pollard have replied to that question?

Accurately?

 

[IowaPride95]

This will really come to a head if Hoiberg lands the Lipsey kid out of Ames HS. That melt down will be epic on CF.

You actually believe Fred will still be in Lincon when Lipsey starts college?

 

[Quintana]

I actually support him being a dick about it. Some fans need to get over their Hoiberg obsession. There are some ISU fans with an Iowa obsession too, and they need to get over it. Both should be mocked. Just IMO.

maybe your ad should get over it too. you think he would have responded that way if hoiberg wasn't the coach at un?

 

[SDHawkDoc]

Pollard is the perfect AD for that university and fan base.

Pollard is a douche so I think you've called it well there.

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

It's possible next year. I wouldn't bet on it now, but there are potential avenues there.

Does the 7th seed often win the Big12 tourney?

I don’t follow that crappy conference much.

 

[IowaPride95]

Does the 7th seed often win the Big12 tourney?

I don’t follow that crappy conference much.

Yet you comment about it on here all three time.

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

Yet you comment about it on here all three time.

Dumb post.

Even for you.

 

[TCOOL]

You actually believe Fred will still be in Lincon when Lipsey starts college?

Did I say that? Common time frame for someone in Lipsey's class to commit would be the summer of 2021 so roughly 2 years from now. I absolutely think Fred will still be in Lincoln when that time comes.

 

[TCOOL]

I actually support him being a dick about it. Some fans need to get over their Hoiberg obsession. There are some ISU fans with an Iowa obsession too, and they need to get over it. Both should be mocked. Just IMO.

Of course you do, ISU fans find it impossible to be critical of anything Pollard does.

 

[IowaPride95]

Did I say that? Common time frame for someone in Lipsey's class to commit would be the summer of 2021 so roughly 2 years from now. I absolutely think Fred will still be in Lincoln when that time comes.

I think that 2 years is the over/under on Fred being gone. Curious to see what happens.

If Fred is there and lands Lipsey, good for him. If he is landing kids like Lipsey that will be more detrimental to Iowa than ISU as we will never have to face him. Would rather he go to Lincoln than Lawrence.

 

[IowaPride95]

Of course you do, ISU fans find it impossible to be critical of anything Pollard does.

Not true. Tons of ISU fans do not like Pollard's style on things like this. Was a dumb comment IMO.

 

[CoorsHawk23]

No respect for a man whose first name is Jamie.

 

[cidhawkeye]

Accurately?

If only he had

 

[HawkRugged17]

No respect for a man whose first name is Jamie.

 

[Alum-Ni]

I like ISU clowns trashing nebrasketball. Nebraska fans need to be put in their place. They are objectively one of the worst basketball programs in history. Their fans completely ignore their inferiority because they have their heads shoved so far up their cornholes.

I wouldn't say they are the worst. Outside of the goose egg of NCAA victories, I'd say the program has just been mediocre. The program has a career win percentage of .525 (1,477-1,337). They've had players go to the NBA, they've had first-team all-conference players. They've had nice seasons, really nice seasons, sporadically....just never gotten over that NCAA goose egg.

 

[anon_bb9wlf9kj42py]

Of course you do, ISU fans find it impossible to be critical of anything Pollard does.

I've been critical of him many times.

 

[HawkRugged17]

I wouldn't say they are the worst. Outside of the goose egg of NCAA victories, I'd say the program has just been mediocre. The program has a career win percentage of .525 (1,477-1,337). They've had players go to the NBA, they've had first-team all-conference players. They've had nice seasons, really nice seasons, sporadically....just never gotten over that NCAA goose egg.

Yikes ...

Nebraska Cornhuskers in the NBA
Player Position NBA debut Final NBA year
Herschell Turner PG 1968 1968
Grant Simmons PG 1968 1969
Stu Lantz G, PG 1969 1976
Dave Hoppen C, PF 1988 1993
Eric Johnson PG 1990 1990
Rich King C 1992 1995
Eric Piatkowski SF 1995 2008
Erick Strickland PG 1997 2005
Tony Farmer C, PF 1998 2000
Tyronn Lue PG 1998 2009
Mikki Moore C, PF 1999 2012

 

[Hawksfor3]

Its going to take a long time for a lot of ISU fans, and apparently the AD too, to get over Fred going to Nebraska.

They were all convinced he would never coach in college again because he "hated recruiting".

Yeah, sounds like some hurt feelings lol.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

Screw them both.

 

[Fan In Black]

O no he di'int. Sick burn.

 

[Rustys Dad]

How should Pollard have replied to that question?

There are 100 ways he could have responded ... Maybe a simple:

“We do not have plans to play Nebraska in the immediate future but our basketball paths could some day cross in a tourney, etc.”

Instead he went the extra step to try and be edgy/funny ... I don’t know his intention... But don’t act like you are leading Duke basketball here.

 

[anon_wic6m41528ao4]

I wouldn't say they are the worst. Outside of the goose egg of NCAA victories, I'd say the program has just been mediocre. The program has a career win percentage of .525 (1,477-1,337). They've had players go to the NBA, they've had first-team all-conference players. They've had nice seasons, really nice seasons, sporadically....just never gotten over that NCAA goose egg.

Fine. They are one of the worst power five schools of all time. According to wikipedia, they are the only power five school to have 0 ncaa tournament wins.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Men's_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament_all-time_team_records

NCAA tournament success should be the ultimate qualifier of a good program (both getting to the tournament and winning games). Likewise, bad programs are qualified by NCAA tournament failure. In the NCAA failure department, Nebraska stands alone.

 

[Lone Clone]

I think Fred will be successful at UNL.

I don't begrudge him the job or success, and neither do any of my Cyclone fan friends. I realize some feel differently, but it's a small minority, IMO.

If he had gone to Iowa or a Big XII school, that would have been entirely different. Or if he had gone from ISU to a college job somewhere. Of if the ISU job had been open and he had chosen to go elsewhere.

But he went from ISU to the NBA, then to a team we no longer play (except for the closed scrimmage pre-season).

 

[Cydkar]

I honestly don't know any ISU fans, personally, that care that Fred is at Nebby. Message boards are not your every day fans. Clearly some fans are butt hurt but I don't think it's that many. I hope he fails miserably but that's just because it's Nebraska.

 

[N.Legend]

Mayor can wait: Don’t expect any Iowa State men’s basketball games soon against Fred Hoiberg-coached Nebraska.

Asked by a young fan in the crowd if that was a possibility, director of athletics Jamie Pollard suggested that the only possibility might be in the NCAA tourney, quickly pointing out, “That’s one thing Nebraska hasn’t been to ever. They’ve got a little work to do before we might be seeing them on the court.’’
https://qctimes.com/sports/basketba...cle_41e4cc4f-afb0-5ebd-ae2f-aff509ccca80.html

I suppose that you could argue that going 0-7 in the big dance is metaphorically not being there, but I think Jamie is trying to be literal here. BTW, Nebraska leads the all-time series with Iowa State 131-103 (per the Nebraska media guide).

I love it!

 

[N.Legend]

I like ISU clowns trashing nebrasketball. Nebraska fans need to be put in their place. They are objectively one of the worst basketball programs in history. Their fans completely ignore their inferiority because they have their heads shoved so far up their cornholes.

“Poster, just suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Hawkeye fan. But I repeat myself.”

 

[BBHawk]

“Poster, just suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Hawkeye fan. But I repeat myself.”

You are insulting Iowa fans on our board?
What does that "N" stand for?
Did Nebraska ever get its accreditation back?

 

[DodgerHawki]

I wouldn't say they are the worst. Outside of the goose egg of NCAA victories, I'd say the program has just been mediocre. The program has a career win percentage of .525 (1,477-1,337). They've had players go to the NBA, they've had first-team all-conference players. They've had nice seasons, really nice seasons, sporadically....just never gotten over that NCAA goose egg.

In terms of Power conferences (Big 10, B12, ACC, Pac-12, SEC, Big East) one could make the argument that Nebraska is the worst basketball program, and it's not really that close. No other power conference team is o-fer in the NCAA tournament, at least in a quick scan of NCAA tournament appearances in power conference teams. The things you say about NBA players, first-team players, nice seasons, every other Power conference team can make the same claim and likely with much more volume. Even Iowa, with basically 20 years of extremely mediocre basketball results, has 29 NCAA tournament victories all-time.

I do think Nebraska is in a position to have success (with the right coach) at an equal level of any Big 10 team not named Michigan, MSU, Indiana, OSU and Purdue (and maybe Illinois). Good facilities, good fan support, good support by the administration. Miles was a good guy but never really built a program. He was good at getting players. Hoiberg can recruit and coach (at least at the college level).