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Well, I am simply replying to the post where you called the other guy a DB for claiming there are in fact a lot more ISU fans in the metro now. It is only about 4 posts above. You seem to now be agreeing with it?

Look, I have no idea what the percentage breakdown is. It may very well be 65/35 as you suggest. The point is there's a lot more people driving around with ISU plates and sporting their ISU gear in the Des Moines metro now. I don't know if these people were always ISU fans or if they graduated from ISU within the last 30 years and settled in the DSM area, or what... but at any rate, it appears now you agree.
Read the posts again.

He’s saying there’s more Clowns in the metro than Hawk fans.

I’m saying there’s not.

The correct answer is, there’s not.
 
Ha you're so wallowed up in your own dumbass thoughts. I never said that. Done arguing with you though, you're a lost cause.
Lol, it really doesn’t surprise me that you’re not smart enough to know what you said.

You probably didn’t even know what the previous poster stated that we were talking about before you put your dumbass two cents in.

Hang in there buddy! Life will get better.
 
I thought I read ISU is selling out games left and right on a post here. What? They don’t sell out and they are in a historical stratosphere for good football. As far as fans ISU has always had a presence but they were embarrassed to show it. Jesus in Ankeny 5 years they lose to Iowa and 10 ISU flags on Sunday, they win and 2000 flags. JP is a marketer and the best way to market to ISU is to come after big brother. But always has been and always be a Hawkeye State.
 
I thought I read ISU is selling out games left and right on a post here. What? They don’t sell out and they are in a historical stratosphere for good football. As far as fans ISU has always had a presence but they were embarrassed to show it. Jesus in Ankeny 5 years they lose to Iowa and 10 ISU flags on Sunday, they win and 2000 flags. JP is a marketer and the best way to market to ISU is to come after big brother. But always has been and always be a Hawkeye State.

Iowa States attendance sucks given their current performance vs the historical norm. They have tons of empty seats every game despite cheap tickets.
 
Iowa States attendance sucks given their current performance vs the historical norm. They have tons of empty seats every game despite cheap tickets.

I mean . . . we all hate when clown fans spout baseless facts so lets be better than that. To say ISU's current attendance sucks is a wild assertion. They were top 30 in attendance in 2017, only 6 spots behind us. Both of us averaged about 4,000 empty seats. They also sold out half their games that year. We didn't sell out any. Finally, they sold out their bowl game tickets that year. We struggled to sell tickets. If State attendance sucks, does that mean our attendance also sucks?

I wish Iowa State nothing but misfortune. That being said, you are ignorant if you don't recognize the improvement in their athletics programs.

Here's some extra reading if you don't believe me.
https://www.heartlandcollegesports....-attendance-record-ranks-in-top-30-in-nation/
https://www.thegazette.com/subject/...1000-tickets-sold-for-pinstripe-bowl-20171210
https://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/hawkeyes-maintain-attendance-cyclones-climb-20180213
https://www.widerightnattylite.com/...hools-by-average-attendance-at-football-games (From WRNL so take it with a gigantic spoonful of salt.)
 
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I thought I read ISU is selling out games left and right on a post here. What? They don’t sell out and they are in a historical stratosphere for good football. As far as fans ISU has always had a presence but they were embarrassed to show it. Jesus in Ankeny 5 years they lose to Iowa and 10 ISU flags on Sunday, they win and 2000 flags. JP is a marketer and the best way to market to ISU is to come after big brother. But always has been and always be a Hawkeye State.

I believe they sold out almost every game this past season and it was not a great year for them by any stretch.
 
I believe they sold out almost every game this past season and it was not a great year for them by any stretch.

In football? Hard to keep track of what he is referring to but I think hes talking about football and they didnt sell out one game in 2018. They won at least 8 games for only the 10th time in school history. JTS seats 61,500 and below are the attendance numbers for each game:

OU: 58,479
Akron: 54,028
WVU: 56,629
TTU: 57,908
Baylor: 53,860
KSU: 54,430
Drake: 56,738

Average for 2018: 56,010
 
I mean . . . we all hate when clown fans spout baseless facts so lets be better than that. To say ISU's current attendance sucks is a wild assertion. They were top 30 in attendance in 2017, only 6 spots behind us. Both of us averaged about 4,000 empty seats. They also sold out half their games that year. We didn't sell out any. Finally, they sold out their bowl game tickets that year. We struggled to sell tickets. If State attendance sucks, does that mean our attendance also sucks?

I wish Iowa State nothing but misfortune. That being said, you are ignorant if you don't recognize the improvement in their program.

Here's some extra reading if you don't believe me.
https://www.heartlandcollegesports....-attendance-record-ranks-in-top-30-in-nation/
https://www.thegazette.com/subject/...1000-tickets-sold-for-pinstripe-bowl-20171210
https://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/hawkeyes-maintain-attendance-cyclones-climb-20180213
https://www.widerightnattylite.com/...hools-by-average-attendance-at-football-games (From WRNL so take it with a gigantic spoonful of salt.)

Iowa averaged 12,000 more fans per game than ISU in 2018. Kinnick was at 98.3% capacity for the season last year to 91.1% for JTS.
 
We're on the basketball board, I'm assuming that's what he's talking about. But yes, football attendance was fine this year although it will be down slightly from the year before. Big difference is no UNI/Iowa.
 
We're on the basketball board, I'm assuming that's what he's talking about. But yes, football attendance was fine this year although it will be down slightly from the year before. Big difference is no UNI/Iowa.

They are talking about football. Historic seasons (8 wins) and cheap tickets pretty much narrow that down for you. Not sure how we got there from a Pollard/Hoiberg discussion but we are here.
 
In football? Hard to keep track of what he is referring to but I think hes talking about football and they didnt sell out one game in 2018. They won at least 8 games for only the 10th time in school history. JTS seats 61,500 and below are the attendance numbers for each game:

OU: 58,479
Akron: 54,028
WVU: 56,629
TTU: 57,908
Baylor: 53,860
KSU: 54,430
Drake: 56,738

Average for 2018: 56,010

That is correct for ISU. They couldn't sell out even vs top 5 OU let alone reach 60K in any game last year. Iowa on the other hand with new capacity of 69,250 had this for their 7 game total listed below. Not sure where others are getting the inflated #s for ISU but one is from 2017 as noted. But in 2018 Iowa improved and ISU slipped a little when it came to attendance. Iowa had 4 sell outs and lowest attended game was Black Friday vs Nebby where it was still 7K more than any ISU game and 3800 more than their max capacity.

NIU: 67,510
ISU: 69,250
UNI: 69,250
Wisconsin: 69,250
Maryland: 69,250
NW: 66,493
Nebraska: 65,299
 
I mean . . . we all hate when clown fans spout baseless facts so lets be better than that. To say ISU's current attendance sucks is a wild assertion. They were top 30 in attendance in 2017, only 6 spots behind us. Both of us averaged about 4,000 empty seats. They also sold out half their games that year. We didn't sell out any. Finally, they sold out their bowl game tickets that year. We struggled to sell tickets. If State attendance sucks, does that mean our attendance also sucks?

I wish Iowa State nothing but misfortune. That being said, you are ignorant if you don't recognize the improvement in their program.

Here's some extra reading if you don't believe me.
https://www.heartlandcollegesports....-attendance-record-ranks-in-top-30-in-nation/
https://www.thegazette.com/subject/...1000-tickets-sold-for-pinstripe-bowl-20171210
https://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/hawkeyes-maintain-attendance-cyclones-climb-20180213
https://www.widerightnattylite.com/...hools-by-average-attendance-at-football-games (From WRNL so take it with a gigantic spoonful of salt.)

So we are talking sold tickets or actual attendance?
 
They are talking about football. Historic seasons (8 wins) and cheap tickets pretty much narrow that down for you. Not sure how we got there from a Pollard/Hoiberg discussion but we are here.

Admittedly, the original discussion has gone completely off the rails.
 
I am talking sold tickets which is how every attendance stat in the world is tracked.

Oh well I was talking about the thousands of empty seats. Just like Nebraska I have a hunch that a bunch of cheap seats are sold to inflate the numbers but never used.
 
Fran Con said “ISU football is historically awful... yet they are selling out games left and right.” He is right on historically awful, not on sell outs.
 
Fran Con said “ISU football is historically awful... yet they are selling out games left and right.” He is right on historically awful, not on sell outs.

I'll admit "selling out left and right" was some dumbass exaggeration on my part. They did sell out half their home games after going 11-37 the previous four seasons. That's the only point I was trying to make. I was just trying to argue that Pollard's aggressive style might be working, but i caused this discussion to spiral out of control. I should've known better than to give the Clowns any credit on this site.

Sorry fellas.
 
I'll admit "selling out left and right" was some dumbass exaggeration on my part. They did sell out half their home games after going 11-37 the previous four seasons. That's the only point I was trying to make. I was just trying to argue that Pollard's aggressive style might be working, but i caused this discussion to spiral out of control. I should've known better than to give the Clowns any credit on this site.

Sorry fellas.

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That is correct for ISU. They couldn't sell out even vs top 5 OU let alone reach 60K in any game last year. Iowa on the other hand with new capacity of 69,250 had this for their 7 game total listed below. Not sure where others are getting the inflated #s for ISU but one is from 2017 as noted. But in 2018 Iowa improved and ISU slipped a little when it came to attendance. Iowa had 4 sell outs and lowest attended game was Black Friday vs Nebby where it was still 7K more than any ISU game and 3800 more than their max capacity.

NIU: 67,510
ISU: 69,250
UNI: 69,250
Wisconsin: 69,250
Maryland: 69,250
NW: 66,493
Nebraska: 65,299

That's right. ISU had better home attendance than half of the Big 10 despite the weather issues...

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/Attendance/2018.pdf
 
That's right. ISU had better home attendance than half of the Big 10 despite the weather issues...

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/Attendance/2018.pdf

Wow cool story. Thanks for replying to a post from a month ago...you do realize attendance for drake game was tickets sold and refunded from the SDSU game those counted toward that game. Because it is the only way one can justify 56K attendance figure given for that game where maybe 10,000 fans were in the stands. But nice try with the weather claim as if you guys overcame some major obstacles. And great job of diverting from the original comparison of Iowa and isu attendance and throw in the bottom half of the big 10....

As for total attendance vs other big 10 schools who cares isu has more than half. Maybe it’s because your stadium has larger capacity than those. Congratulations....that’d mean Iowa would always be the 3rd highest in big 12 behind OU and Texas.
 
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