Ok. Let's see how the season plays out. I'm close to ready myself but not acting like a teenage girl either tonight considering everything we know about this current team and who we nearly beat.Key word ALMOST. Describes Fran's entire tenure.
Ok. Let's see how the season plays out. I'm close to ready myself but not acting like a teenage girl either tonight considering everything we know about this current team and who we nearly beat.Key word ALMOST. Describes Fran's entire tenure.
I get that they played well but it never translates to NCAA resumeOk. Let's see how the season plays out. I'm close to ready myself but not acting like a teenage girl either tonight considering everything we know about this current team and who we nearly beat.
Yep agree. So we are just getting guys back who have been hurt. I posted above we need to go 4-1 in the next 5. Do that and we are ok!I get that they played well but it never translates to NCAA resume
We did in the 80sFran builds unorthodox teams. Thelwell is upgrade over what Fran normally brings in, but he's not of Lipsey, Gilbert , or Jones quality.
Nobody in P5 basketball offered Harding other than Fran. I like Harding's moxie/effort and sometimes he does thing that surprise you like his 1st half. THen he gets abused like 2nd half and plays like you expect of a 5'10 gym rat from the suburbs that only had mid major offers
This is Iowa team made up of a lot of native Iowa kids and two Moline young men. Very are easy to root for, except they aren't Sweet16 caliber team. They have a lot of skills but get killed on boards because they are soft, lacking strength, lack fast twitch athletes.
Sure, this probably is a 10-10 conference record team. I would prefer what ISU fans have. Why can't we have good things once every 15 years?
We played out of our mind in the first half and still lost by 9 at home, but somehow could have “easily” beat the #3 team in the country.Iowa could have easily won and failed at the end.
Not sure we cant close games where we are up like tonightMy takeaway as well.
I recommend ignoring the 9 pt loss. The true analysis is we led for 36 minutes of game. That's a nice building block.We played out of our mind in the first half and still lost by 9 at home, but somehow could have “easily” beat the #3 team in the country.
This team will easily make the NCAAs.
ISU is a likely final 4 team as tough as that is to swallow. Use that in your thoughts as well.Not sure we cant close games where we are up like tonight
Oh and people piling on me as a Fran lover I had a thread about DeVries being the next Iowa coach. If the season goes south maybe his successor at Drake, McCullum(?) could be it. Drake is doing very well at hiring coaches
You are beating a dead horse poor horseBeating a dead horse here but I am sick of teams playing 8 guys, of which 6 are transfers. Coaches and boosters basically buying a team. Makes it hard to be a fan of collegiate athletics when the playing field is so tilted.
I get your frustration I am as well. I remember our sweet 16 game vs UConn well who ended up winning the title. Been a long time ago. I still think this team is different than recent seasons. We shall see.Iowa made almost 10 3s in the first half and went on to make one in the second. Then see the 20 second chance points and you understand more why only 10,000 Iowa fans made it to the game.
Fran cares more about scoring than winning. Or thinks rebounding is disrespectful to the game.
He’s good guy and he’s developed some fun to watch players. But this guy shouldn’t have a life time big ten coaching role if he can’t learn from past mistakes. I honestly don’t know if he’d make it to the sweet 16 with any of the top 10 teams this year much less his own built rosters.
I will not ! LolISU is a likely final 4 team as tough as that is to swallow. Use that in your thoughts as well.
Can’t argue with anything in your post - besides the Brothers Murray, I am growing tired of the whole family themed recruiting….as some else noted, Payton would be a spark plug/limited role player at a program like Illinois, but he is essentially our showcased player at Iowa. I think you said it best when you said Fran builds unorthodox teams. It’s time for a change….Fran builds unorthodox teams. Thelwell is upgrade over what Fran normally brings in, but he's not of Lipsey, Gilbert , or Jones quality.
Nobody in P5 basketball offered Harding other than Fran. I like Harding's moxie/effort and sometimes he does thing that surprise you like his 1st half. THen he gets abused like 2nd half and plays like you expect of a 5'10 gym rat from the suburbs that only had mid major offers
This is Iowa team made up of a lot of native Iowa kids and two Moline young men. Very are easy to root for, except they aren't Sweet16 caliber team. They have a lot of skills but get killed on boards because they are soft, lacking strength, lack fast twitch athletes.
Sure, this probably is a 10-10 conference record team. I would prefer what ISU fans have. Why can't we have good things once every 15 years?
Lol understand. That is a big part of my OP. ISU is that good.I will not ! Lol
Nah they will lose to a 15 again as the 2 seedISU is a likely final 4 team as tough as that is to swallow. Use that in your thoughts as well.
Lol no way I'd love it but not a chanceNah they will lose to a 15 again as the 2 seed
You said beating a dead horse here i am jusr my sympathiesWhat?
What?You said beating a dead horse here i am jusr my sympathies
Tinsley isn’t around to be involved in a points shaving scandal again, dont see that happening.Nah they will lose to a 15 again as the 2 seed
Lol no way I'd love it but not a
I remember 87 up 16 at half vs UNLV. Then suddenly Iowa forgot how to play, and I got blacked out drunk.I get your frustration I am as well. I remember our sweet 16 game vs UConn well who ended up winning the title. Been a long time ago. I still think this team is different than recent seasons. We shall see.
Yep could have won the title.I remember 87 up 16 at half vs UNLV. Then suddenly Iowa forgot how to play, and I got blacked out drunk.
Oh and people piling on me as a Fran lover I had a thread about DeVries being the next Iowa coach. If the season goes south maybe his successor at Drake, McCullum(?) could be it. Drake is doing very well at hiring coaches
No my posts in gamethread absolutely didn't say they would win at halftime. Feel free to look it up. Happy camper? Nope just analyzing the current situation and team and it doesn't deserve the hate because 2 seed Iowa lost in 2nd rd with Garza etc either. That is an after season evaluation.From my POV, your thread reads like you are a happy camper and upset not everyone else is happy camper. Yes, we are still on course for a moderately successful season.
There is nothing wrong with going 10-10 in B1G, probably getting knocked out in BTT early, being on bubble and maybe making NCAA tourney and then losing right away in NCAA tourney. The issue for me is after 15 years, Fran needs to do better than just being consistently at little bit better than 0.500 in B1G and a complete bust in March.
Did your really think they were going to win when they have lead at the Half? They just looked like a team that had shot well in 1st half and probably would fold in 2nd half under defense pressure because that is what Fran teams usually do. That is exactly what they did.
And it's completely unnecessary is the infuriating thing.Hawks honestly played as well as they could. They need more from their 1 supposed star Sandfort. Hes killing the team with his shot selection and especially his defense. I thought everyone else played very hard and pretty damn well. Unfortunately ISU had the 2 best players on the floor and they were unbelievable. And of course not having another athletic wing to help Freeman on the boards kills us. Tough loss.
The posts at the end of the game thread were absolutely idiotic. Anything else for me, champ?OP starts by calling other people idiots. Self aware much?
Fran was Hired when Chet Culver was Governor of Iowa. Let that sink in.What is incorrect here? You don't think this team is going to make the NCAA tourney?
Much better days in general, agreed.Fran was Hired when Chet Culver was Governor of Iowa. Let that sink in.
No they won't. They suck. FIRE EVERYONE!!!So many Idiots in the gamethread at the end. BAU. ISU is elite. Iowa could have easily won and failed at the end. Beat Utah and the rest of the non con teams and then get after it in the BIG.
No....I don't think I will.Fran was Hired when Chet Culver was Governor of Iowa. Let that sink in.
It’s actually shocking how many guards Iowa State has had compared to Iowa. If you combine the Iowa and Iowa State guards into one group, I think Iowa State has 13 of the top 15 the past decade or so.Fran builds unorthodox teams. Thelwell is upgrade over what Fran normally brings in, but he's not of Lipsey, Gilbert , or Jones quality.
Nobody in P5 basketball offered Harding other than Fran. I like Harding's moxie/effort and sometimes he does thing that surprise you like his 1st half. THen he gets abused like 2nd half and plays like you expect of a 5'10 gym rat from the suburbs that only had mid major offers
This is Iowa team made up of a lot of native Iowa kids and two Moline young men. Very are easy to root for, except they aren't Sweet16 caliber team. They have a lot of skills but get killed on boards because they are soft, lacking strength, lack fast twitch athletes.
Sure, this probably is a 10-10 conference record team. I would prefer what ISU fans have. Why can't we have good things once every 15 years?
Doesn't it suck that mediocrity is the expectation?11-9 is my ceiling but not out of the question.
Iowa has missed two golden opportunities to really inflate their NET tonight & against Michigan. Those opportunities aren't easy. To lose by 2 in one & then lead 95% of the game tonight to lose. They'll be regretting it come March 17.
Iowa dropped 11 spots in the NET with the loss last night. Even going 1-1 in the last two probably means a NET of 30-40. If you lose to Utah, probably have to go 12-8 or better in conference play. March will be fun if you like another year of Iowa not in the tournament.They gave everything they had, there will be nothing to regret,.. March will be fun.