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***Iran v Israel War official thread***

based on a tweet from iran it would seem like iran leadership just wants to tell their people they took a revenge shot while intending the attack to fail which it did. that explains giving israel 9 hours heads up.
of course bibi will now feel compelled to respond to maintain his macho image. hope biden tells him that this bout has ended.
I’d go further than that. I’d tell Netanyahu if he goes back for more the US will stand down and they’re on their own.
 
I’d go further than that. I’d tell Netanyahu if he goes back for more the US will stand down and they’re on their own.
Biden has already said he will help defend Israel but he will not help any offensive plan. Sounds like the line has been drawn for the US.

We will soon hear from the usual suspects how this is weak.
 
Ukraine wasn’t a Soviet bloc nation on its own. The land was actually part of the country known as USSR that was part of the Soviet Bloc. Of the countries you listed, only Romania was a Soviet bloc nation. The rest were just republics(similar to our states) of the USSR.
Lithuania, for one, was independent from 1918 until the Soviets absorbed them after WW2. I don’t think you’re accurate, completely, here.
 
So again, Trump had an attack on his watch. And didn’t respond. Instead lied about the injuries sustained. Just glad we are clear on the facts.

But just to get you on record… what would you have the US do right now if you were in charge?
Enforce sanctions on Iran would be a good start. Continuing trying to appease them in hopes they come to the table and rape us again is a mistake.

The leadership in Iran wants Israel and the US gone. Dead. Non existent. So let’s keep negotiating with them. lol
 
Enforce sanctions on Iran would be a good start. Continuing trying to appease them in hopes they come to the table and rape us again is a mistake.

The leadership in Iran wants Israel and the US gone. Dead. Non existent. So let’s keep negotiating with them. lol
Yep. They have wanted us dead my entire life. They remain our enemy as far as I’m concerned. There’s no way I would allow them to obtain nukes if I was POTUS. I do not trust them with that capability at all.
 
Perhaps this whole thing is being orchestrated by Putin to divert American support from Ukraine to Israe

This is what drives me nuts. Israel just did what they did without informing the US. This isn’t a dem vs repub president issue. This is a close ally instigating a fight and dragging us into it. Neither trump or Biden could’ve prevented this. If you say otherwise you’re a fool.

Israel instigated this huh? Oh let's ignore the Iran backed proxies in Hamas, Hezbollah, etc that have been attacking and terrorizing Israeli and Western interests on land and sea.

Now come back with the Hamas attacks in October were Israel's fault too because of how Palestine is treated bs....and let's go down the whole history of the area rabbit holes. I'm sure you will ignore the fact that Hamas (again backed by Iran) basically runs Palestine (the Palestinian Authority has no real power anymore) and that Hamas is basically dedicated to the eradication of Israel.

Israel didn't drag us into it, in my opinion Iran and their proxies are lucky the US and their allies haven't come at them hard and fast.

Honestly though, Israel's military is no slouch, and they will do what is necessary to defend themselves, as we have seen. And the allies will offer support and stand out of their way now that Iran just did what they did.
 
Prob why people don't think it's such a big deal

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That was before the bridge was destroyed, and definitely not at rush hour :).
 
based on a tweet from iran it would seem like iran leadership just wants to tell their people they took a revenge shot while intending the attack to fail which it did. that explains giving israel 9 hours heads up.
of course bibi will now feel compelled to respond to maintain his macho image. hope biden tells him that this bout has ended.
Like when this happened

 
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You're a fvcking moron if you believe that
It would explain why they hit around the base and not in the base.

Think about that situation for a second. Trump orders the killing of their head military leader. When it happened the world collectively went “oh shit”. The media afterward, including democrat politicians, starting saying that Trump will get us into a war with Iran. Look at what Irans response was.

Would you have wanted Trump sending Tomahakes into Tehran after their response?
 
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It would explain why they hit around the base and not in the base.

Think about that situation for a second. Trump orders the killing of their head military leader. When it happened the world collectively went “oh shit”. The media afterward, including democrat politicians, starting saying that Trump will get us into a war with Iran. Look at what Irans response was.

Would you have wanted Trump sending Tomahakes into Tehran after their response?

So Trump who can't shut up waited YEARS before saying anything? That's your contention?
 
So Trump who can't shut up waited YEARS before saying anything? That's your contention?

This is actually how it went down. We knew it was coming and we evacuated half the base. Iran later tells the UN that they deliberately didn’t kill anyone. Hell, we could have removed everyone.

Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi said he received a post-midnight warning from Iran that its response to Soleimani was about to start. He was told Iran would target only locations where U.S. forces were present, but the message did not specify the locations, his spokesman said at the time.
Meanwhile, U.S. military intelligence had been watching Iran fill its missiles with liquid fuel and assumed the base would be a target. Gen. Kenneth “Frank” McKenzie Jr., commander of Central Command, waited until he believed Iran had downloaded the last of the commercial satellite photos, locking in the target, before he ordered about half of the 2,000 U.S. troops to evacuate the base, according to a detailed account by CBS News. The troops were divided by age — with the oldest ordered to remain to defend it.
The first missile hit at 1:34 a.m. on Jan. 8, less than 90 minutes after the message to Mahdi was received. The barrage lasted 80 minutes, with 11 of 16 missiles striking the base. Miraculously, no one was killed — and Iran later asserted to the United Nations that it was deliberate — but McKenzie estimated to CBS that had he not ordered the evacuation, 100 to 150 Americans would have been killed or wounded and 20 to 30 aircraft destroyed.
 
I don’t want war, but there is no way Israel should be told they can’t respond and to stand down. Iran just launched 300 drones and missiles at them, including medium ranged ballistic ones. No way they can not respond to that.

Further, Iran has been helping Russia and helping proxy’s advance an anti Israel and US agenda. They have been bad players for long time.

At some point, you have to do something about Iran. And I think that point is now, especially given how tenuous the hard liners grip on their nation is. The Iran regime needs to be toppled.
 
Am I wrong to interpret this as a major failure for Iran? They just showed their ass as a toothless threat:

No UAVs managed to infiltrate Israel. Of 30 Iranian cruise missiles launched, zero entered Israeli airspace, 25 were downed by the Israeli Air Force outside of Israeli airspace, and 120 ballistic missiles were downed by Israeli aerial defense systems, the IDF said.
 
No. Ukrainians were heavily involved. Ukraine was an awful place to be in ww2.

You’re being obtuse, the actual shooting at Babi Yar, was conducted by German order police. I know, I did my thesis on the Einsatzgruppen units. All the occupied territories had Nazi collaborators for various reasons. Wars between two murderous regimes tend to create such situations.

Of course it was an awful place to be, millions of Ukrainians died.
 
You’re being obtuse, the actual shooting at Babi Yar, was conducted by German order police. I know, I did my thesis on the Einsatzgruppen units. All the occupied territories had Nazi collaborators for various reasons. Wars between two murderous regimes tend to create such situations.

Of course it was an awful place to be, millions of Ukrainians died.
You cant revise history to fit your narrative. But it occurs. Of course Germans were involved. One reason why the victims had no idea what was going on. Starting name callung is always a sign of ignorance or bias. I can do it back with the best if that is where you want to go.
 
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