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Is it time for Weigers?

I too agree he has a bright future, but IVE BEEN SAYING SINCE THIS SPRING his poor play is going to cost us. He’s too limited, and the kid just needs more experience. This is on KF, and a lack of recruiting, that has put us in this position. He shouldn’t have to be our starter as a Redshirt Freshman. Stanley just isn’t that accurate, and his deep ball is just plain bad. He isn’t capable of putting the team in his shoulders yet and taking us down the field for a game winning drive, more times than not.

He’ll have a good career, but he just isn’t there yet. I’ve been saying this all of 2017 that we’d find ourselves in a position needing a gamer at QB to lead us back, and Stanley isn’t going to be that guy (yet).

Stanley's deep ball isnt bad, the receivers are too slow.

Im kidding,Stanley will correct this before the season is over and get on the same page with the receivers.
 
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I think so. Nate S has no mobility and we absolutely have to have it if teams blitz like they do.....Is he able to handle it? Boyle? I am serious here....do we have anyone on the team that can move?
Only if you want more of the same.!
 
No......Kershall had a couple bad outings this year...Penn State fans I was sitting with yesterday were bitching about their guy......He is fine
 
I think Stanley is doing just OK. I'm not even convinced we throw deep balls with real conviction about completing them. Just a ploy to back off some linebackers and d-backs for running room. That ploy works better if you actually complete them, and those guys have been open, lots of them.

I also think the Kirk Ferentz turnover paranoia comes into play. Stanley is WAY deep on 99% of his missed long passes, which lets the ball fall harmlessly to the turf, rather than into the arms of a defender. Never mind the wasted plays and missed opportunities, for an Offense currently running in reverse, with one of the best running backs in the nation at our disposal.

The main issue I have with Stanley...... any defensive tackle in the country can run him down from behind.
 
I think so. Nate S has no mobility and we absolutely have to have it if teams blitz like they do.....Is he able to handle it? Boyle? I am serious here....do we have anyone on the team that can move?

I disagree because Wiegers is an upperclassman, so Stanley must be better if he's starting. Now if Wiegers had been younger, I might question it a little bit based on Ferentz's history.... He did start McCann over Banks, Christiansen over Stanzi, and Ruddock over Beathard....I just figured he liked going with the older guy. But in this case, we're actually starting the younger guy so I doubt the Wiegers/Stanley situation is anything like those.
 
Jesus christ this board has lost it. I realize it's like this every year unless Iowa goes undefeated, but the bi-polarness of some of you is outrageous.
 
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Stanley is a good QB but he needs to get more mobile. He is sitting in the pocket when he could roll out and make some plays. The line can't block forever if he doesn't move around.
So you just practice like Cam Newton and it happens?
 
I think so. Nate S has no mobility and we absolutely have to have it if teams blitz like they do.....Is he able to handle it? Boyle? I am serious here....do we have anyone on the team that can move?
I don't know if it's time for a change. I have said since game one to my family that he has happy feet when he's in the pocket. And also he has really bad hands. He does throw great on the rollout when on the run. When he's in that pocket he's a different quarterback. If Wiegert s can control the pocket better be manageable with the rest the game it maybe worth a shot. They must pretty close otherwise there wouldn't of been her last minute quarterback decision the season.
 
Was it three fumbles today? He's got a good arm, but sure doesn't seem very athletic. No threat to run, and a potential turnover. Not looking good for this team on anything over a 3rd and 4. Yikes.


He is showing some real potential, but his Intercepted Fumblepass sure made him look like an athletic machine.
 
First Stanley is not a redshirt freshman. Did you watch the ISU game, or hell for that matter the PSU game? Did he not lead Iowa down for multiple late game scores, including several and the game winner vs ISU, or is your memory that short. This game he started almost every drive inside our own 8 yard line. Pretty tough duty for even a veteran QB.

I say redshirt freshman because he threw nine passes in 2016. He’s hardly a true sophomore in terms of experience, but obviously I understand you what you mean - yes of course he’s a Soph on paper.

And yes, of course I did, but those drives you reference are HARDLY what I’d refer to as Stanley “putting the team on his shoulders”.... he made a poor throw for every one that was right on the money, and benefited from an electric RB who can be a game changer at times.

Look I think Stanley is going to be just fine in time, but he’s just not a guy yet who will take over a game and will our team to a victory (yet)...my goodness, we might be averaging 10-20% on verticals routes because he continually puts it over their head. He lacks pocket awareness, and has shown to be less than mobile; those two characteristics together don’t bode well for us. We can’t hardly expect him to have a great feel for the game yet, though, because that’s all acquired with snaps and experience. He shouldn’t be asked to lead this team yet with such little time spent in the program, but that’s on Ferentz and our mediocre recruiting - Not Stanley.
 
I say redshirt freshman because he threw nine passes in 2016. He’s hardly a true sophomore in terms of experience, but obviously I understand you what you mean - yes of course he’s a Soph on paper.

And yes, of course I did, but those drives you reference are HARDLY what I’d refer to as Stanley “putting the team on his shoulders”.... he made a poor throw for every one that was right on the money, and benefited from an electric RB who can be a game changer at times.

Look I think Stanley is going to be just fine in time, but he’s just not a guy yet who will take over a game and will our team to a victory (yet)...my goodness, we might be averaging 10-20% on verticals routes because he continually puts it over their head. He lacks pocket awareness, and has shown to be less than mobile; those two characteristics together don’t bode well for us. We can’t hardly expect him to have a great feel for the game yet, though, because that’s all acquired with snaps and experience. He shouldn’t be asked to lead this team yet with such little time spent in the program, but that’s on Ferentz and our mediocre recruiting - Not Stanley.

No, I think its more a question of game experience instead of recruiting. It troubles me that year after year we see chances for second team QB's to get valuable time on the field but instead the starter gobbles up nearly ever snap.
 
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HARDLY what I’d refer to as Stanley “putting the team on his shoulders”.... he made a poor throw for every one that was right on the money, and benefited from an electric RB who can be a game changer at times.

Look I think Stanley is going to be just fine in time, but he’s just not a guy yet who will take over a game and will our team to a victory (yet)...my goodness, we might be averaging 10-20% on verticals routes because he continually puts it over their head. He lacks pocket awareness, and has shown to be less than mobile; those two characteristics together don’t bode well for us. We can’t hardly expect him to have a great feel for the game yet, though, because that’s all acquired with snaps and experience. He shouldn’t be asked to lead this team yet with such little time spent in the program, but that’s on Ferentz and our mediocre recruiting - Not Stanley.
I don't think Stanley is bad. I don't think he's great either.
There was far too much pre-season emphasis from some on things they wanted to see but aren't there. And ignoring those things that are lacking.
He could be a perfectly acceptable game manager in the mold of many wisky qbs over the past couple of decades. But he needs better o-line play, receivers, schemes, and in game play calling to accomplish that.
I don't see him having the skills to put a team on his back and take over a game. And, no, that's not what happened against isu.
 
I don't know if it's time for a change. I have said since game one to my family that he has happy feet when he's in the pocket. And also he has really bad hands. He does throw great on the rollout when on the run. When he's in that pocket he's a different quarterback. If Wiegert s can control the pocket better be manageable with the rest the game it maybe worth a shot. They must pretty close otherwise there wouldn't of been her last minute quarterback decision the season.


Family's response? We need to hear all sides of the story here. What you say to your family is IMPORTANT but what they say back to you is more important.
 
Stanley definitely has the skills to put this team on his back. He is young, inexperienced and inconsistent, but has shown flashes. He has already made clutch plays with the game on the line and hasn't even been our starter 1/2 a season. Looking forward to seeing him develop. He will be one of our best.
 
Stanley is not the main problem here. Everything starts with the OLine. When you don't have much time to throw and you can't run the ball ... and teams stack the line against you ... the QB only has so much to work with. Stanley is intelligent and is going to be a great Hawkeye QB ... We forget this guy has only started 5 games!
 
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Stanley is playing well enough for us to win for the most part. Hasnt made a ton of mistakes minus some early fumbles and some missed deep balls. Kid has a cannon and has showed poise on the road already. Give it some time I think he will be really good.

The fumble at MSU was big but shit happens. The bigger issue is our lack of consistent running game.
 
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OH NO It only took two games to bring out the back up QB solution. Nice to see some things never change.
 
I like Stanley and I think he is going to be a terrific QB for the Hawks. However, I have no problem giving Weigers a few series against Illanoy to see if he can make some plays.
 
Family's response? We need to hear all sides of the story here. What you say to your family is IMPORTANT but what they say back to you is more important.

Here is a copy of a text after game 2:
Lol yep. In just two games he's impressed with his accuracy on deep balls and his poise. Doesn't seem to get rattled
 
No, I think its more a question of game experience instead of recruiting. It troubles me that year after year we see chances for second team QB's to get valuable time on the field but instead the starter gobbles up nearly ever snap.

Add young RB's to that list also, drives me nuts
 
Stanley is not the main problem here. Everything starts with the OLine. When you don't have much time to throw and you can't run the ball ... and teams stack the line against you ... the QB only has so much to work with. Stanley is intelligent and is going to be a great Hawkeye QB ... We forget this guy has only started 5 games!

You know one of the ways you make a D stop doing that?

You hit a wide open receiver for a TD, that puts an end to it. So he is at least part of the problem.
 
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I think so. Nate S has no mobility and we absolutely have to have it if teams blitz like they do.....Is he able to handle it? Boyle? I am serious here....do we have anyone on the team that can move?
Kirk, your QB has 12 touchdowns and 1 interception, what should we do?

Kirk: “Put in the back up, or the back up for the back up. Absolutely anyone else.”

World’s stupidest fans: (ejaculating)
 
I like Stanley and I think he is going to be a terrific QB for the Hawks. However, I have no problem giving Weigers a few series against Illanoy to see if he can make some plays.
I hear you, but at this point doesn't that raise some doubts as to who will be the guy going forward? Neither Stanley or the offense need that indecision. I don't think that Stanleys play to this point warrents a change. I say he'd be pretty far down the list of things that need to step up, probably starting with the OL play.
 
Stanley needs 2 TD passes to = Stanzi's 14 as a SO starter in 2008
CJ in the 2015 season had 17 TD passes,

another note Stanley's QB rating of 150.9 vs Stanzi's 134.8
CJ's 139.5. I suppose you wanted them benched as well?
2008 Stanzi 1956 passing yards 14 TD's 9 INT's and he turned out just fine.AS A JR.
 
Can he complete a deep ball if so give him a chance, Stanley can't hit a barn on the deep ball.
 
I think so. Nate S has no mobility and we absolutely have to have it if teams blitz like they do.....Is he able to handle it? Boyle? I am serious here....do we have anyone on the team that can move?
I like to see Wiegers get some snaps.
 
I think it's time for new message board posters to replace the OP and others. Time for a fan upgrade IMO
Completely agree, fans are completely unreasonable and so reactionary its truly not even funny. Did somebody on here really say he is a bad decision maker?!?!?!?! 12 TD's and 1 INT, that is phenomenal. We lose a game on the last play against a GREAT team who happened to have one of the greatest performances I have ever seen from a RB and the lose on the road by TD and all of the sudden people are asking for heads to fly.....unbelievable.
 
Was it three fumbles today? He's got a good arm, but sure doesn't seem very athletic. No threat to run, and a potential turnover. Not looking good for this team on anything over a 3rd and 4. Yikes.
Beathard had the ability to make plays with his feet. I dont know if a lot of his runs were broken plays but he was able to move the chains. Maybe time to throw a wrinkle or two in and let Stanley take off in a dash?
 
Also on pace to put the ball on the turf 14 times, and lose 10 of them.

Fumbles don't count with QB's?
Meh - I don't think it is a good indication on someone's ability to play the QB position. TD/Int ratio is a much better indicator IMO.
 
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