Possibly. It's not like he was a no-brainer that they offered his 8th grade year.I think they have got exactly what they expected out of Kriener
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Possibly. It's not like he was a no-brainer that they offered his 8th grade year.I think they have got exactly what they expected out of Kriener
This team has A LOT of question marks. We could finish anywhere from 4th to 12th. If we can get to 6th or 7th it will be a satisfactory season.
Chad Leisikow of the Register voted Iowa 10th.In the MBB media poll, he ranked Iowa 12th in the conference, the lowest of all the media.
Fran meanwhile apparently believes he has a good team coming, given that he says he purposely scheduled a tough road. I could see Iowa ending up as low as #9 but I don't see how a team with Joe and Garza along with quality depth falls to 12.
I would also like to add, that the loss of Baer seems larger than Moss IMO.
I think they have got exactly what they expected out of Kriener
Ah yes, Iowa will be lacking the Baer necessities...I got to agree with you here. Those Baer intangibles(sorry Fran) mostly cannot be measured. He will definitely be missed.
Isaiah too. But Moss is a loss that we can hopefully make up for. Too bad for him. He won't get to play in the NCAAs his senior year.
I got to agree with you here. Those Baer intangibles(sorry Fran) mostly cannot be measured. He will definitely be missed.
Isaiah too. But Moss is a loss that we can hopefully make up for. Too bad for him. He won't get to play in the NCAAs his senior year.
Chad Leisikow of the Register voted Iowa 10th.
Chad said on the Wed evening HawkCentral radio program (on KxNO w/ Ross Peterson & Mark Emmert) that he thinks voters voted thinking JBo would be playing this year. Right now, it does not look like he's playing.
So, that means, as others have mentioned, we have lost 4 of our top 6 players from last year.
Chad said that JBo won 4 conference games for Iowa last year with his unbelievable end of game clutch shooting and that our 10-10 record could have easily been 6-14. Yikes.
So many unknowns this year. What is known is that we only have 2 returning starters.
Mark Emmert also said that the NIT is the most likely destination for this year's team based on who is back, the many unknowns and the very tough schedule.
Tyler at least made the Nuggets camp roster.
Pretty good for a guy who was only the 5th best player on the Hawks last year.
I think these number lie when it comes assessing the value of a player to the team.
TC is going to be missed.
No other big on this team will get a serious look from the league. Very slow frontcourt.
Meh... Garza totally outplayed Cook during the NCAA tournament. We beat Cincinnati in spite of Cook. Nunge will prove a lot of people wrong when they see how multidimensional he is and can expand the floor with his range.
The Cincinnati game was a good example of the future of this team. Wieskamp and Garza led the way combining for 39 points while Cook and Moss combined for 10.
Don't you also think that Cincy probably key'd on Iowa's top scorer Cook , and our shooting guard Moss as key guys to control to win? Guessing Garza and Wieskamp are going to be the marked guys a lot this season.
Garza and Weiskamp = efficient and dependable.
Moss and Cook = inefficient and erratic.
Cook greatest strength was drawing fouls. The only problem was the second half of the season he couldn’t throw it in the ocean.
Kriener, Nunge and Pemsl will be fine and offset Cooks production.
Baer’s intangibles will be missed but some new kids may offset that.
Confident that more minutes by Weiskamp and emerging players will offset Moss play.
JBo’s magic, now that will be hard to replace, his defense will not.
Hope you are right and the Hawks will improve this year after losing 4 of top 6 players off of last years team.
That would mean we finally get that elusive Sweet Sixteen.
Replacing TC 15 pts 8 rbds (54 per cent shooting) NBA talent will be tougher than cherry picking some bad games. How did he do in that comeback vs Tenn?
Did Moss contribute vs Tenn?
Cook was 4/12 shooting with 2 rebs and 3 TOs in that game. Wow!
As far as Moss goes, he had a nice game until he cost us in OT. But speaking of cherry picking. Look at Moss for a whole season. For a guy whose only real attribute is shooting, he had far more single digit scoring games than double digit.
Yes, I would say that Garza/Nunge/Kriener/Pemsl is on par with if not potentially better than Garza/Cook/Kriener/Till.
Small forward should be comparable. We lose Baer but gain Pat and have a more experienced Wieskamp.
The real question will be if Toussaint/Evelyn/Fredrick/Connor can be comparable to Bohannon/Moss/Connor/Dailey.
I’m not cherry picking games. It’s a fact that Tyler’s production dropped off significantly the second half of the season.
Moss scored in double digits 15 games.
Moss scored in single digits 20 games.
Far more.
Oh boy, 15 games in double digits, two of which were throw away games against terrible opponents. Sounds like an irreplaceable player. In postseason play he had 1 of 4 games in double digits.
For a guy who supposedly was an offensive player, a PER of 14 (10th on the team) isn't anything to write home about.
Chad's take is very simplistic. Yes JaBo was clutch in several games but let's also not disregard the fact that his disappearance offensively in the first half of several of those and his generally poor defense were part of the reason we were in those situations to begin with. I like JaBo but if we're objective then we need to look at his weaknesses too.
Of the 3 starters we lose, they all had some major holes.
1. Bohannon - one of the worst rated defensive PGs in the conference.
2. Cook - no shooting ability, turnover prone and mediocre defense.
3. Moss - mediocre defense, turnover prone, streaky offense.
Win shares per 40 minutes is a reasonable efficiency indicator. Here is how our core players stacked up:
1. Garza - .166
2. Baer - .164
3. Wieskamp - .154
4. Kriener - .122
5. Cook - .121
6. Bohannon - .117
7. McCaffrey - .091
8. Moss - .090
9. Dailey - .035
For all the things Cook did well, his weaknesses caused him to be less efficient than Kriener.
Moss was actually less efficient than Connor, perhaps why he was benched at the end of games.
While Bohannon made big shots, his atrocious defense brings down his total.
Garza and Wieskamp are the two most well rounded starters from last year's team and both return and should be improved. Kriener is becoming a solid rotational post.
The key to a 20+ win season vs an NIT season will be the newcomers. Evelyn and CJ should have little trouble offsetting the poor efficiency of Moss/Dailey.
If Pemsl plays, he's a big upgrade as the 4th post over Till last year.
The major question will be how Nunge/Joe T/Pat offset Cook, Baer and Bohannon. But also never discount growth and development of returning players. I recall several prognosticators on this forum saying we would win 7 games this football season because our receivers couldn't offset Fant/Hockensen yards. Obviously that's being proven false.
Tyler at least made the Nuggets camp roster.
Pretty good for a guy who was only the 5th best player on the Hawks last year.
I think these number lie when it comes assessing the value of a player to the team.
TC is going to be missed.
No other big on this team will get a serious look from the league. Very slow frontcourt.
The major question will be how Nunge/Joe T/Pat offset Cook, Baer and Bohannon. But also never discount growth and development of returning players. I recall several prognosticators on this forum saying we would win 7 games this football season because our receivers couldn't offset Fant/Hockensen yards. Obviously that's being proven false.
Cook has made an NBA preseason team because of his athletic ability and nothing more. Some of you really think that NBA teams are excited about his shooting ability,
And I remember when you said there was no reason an Iowa basketball team wouldn't win 20 games and they finished with 14 wins.
lol...you are denying that???
I don't recall ever saying Iowa would never win less than 20. That would have been two years ago. I don't recall every statement I've made. Maybe you can source it.
I know that in this post, I didn't!Who said teams are excited about his shooting ability?
I'm curious what you thought of Joe T. I've been told he's 'tough as nails' from a dad who's son played with Joe, but that was with HS kids. What do you think?I think you're going to be proven very wrong here.
I remember you were always critical of Moss. Why the change?Translation: You were wrong.