Is Matt Campbell the Hayden Fry of Iowa State?
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Says every clown fan ever. Just like Cheesedick was younger and CPR was younger and Danny Mac was younger.
This savior will end up just like the others. He is still looking up at CPR for wins after two years but tell us how it really is.
Woof or is it yikes Cytwins?
Wow what an astute observation that Campbell is younger. Well done... The list is a mile long of young coaches who've had success and never materialized to anything long term and flamed out on being head coaches. So it is not close to a given that Campbell will have as much or even nearly the amount KF has had. Odds are if he is going to achieve lot of those levels of success will not all be done at ISU.
As for "ol' Raisin" face let's just say in 19 years he has accomplished more than ISU has done in over a 100+ years of football. Be that seasons ranked in top 25 or top 10, bowl appearances, New Year bowls/BCS games, bowl wins, conference titles, division titles, 10+ win seasons, players drafted in the first round, players winning national awards such as Doak Walker, Jim Thorpe, Outland, etc. and the list goes on.
That is a FLAT OUT lie, I have heard several times about the Iowa State Hawkeyes, sometimes they use the wrong logo for ISU or get their location wrong. It is one of the biggest chuckles when it happens.
That would be an interesting feat for a Big 12 team since the Big 12 doesn't have any New Years Day bowl tie-ins other that the Sugar Bowl when it's not hosting a CFP semifinal game.
No January bowl games in general. (Sorry for the delay in responding. I don't come here often especially in the off season.)
LOL. Ok, you wanna play that game?
Since Iowa State plays in a conference that is not wanted by any of the elite bowl games, we'll give you a handicap.
I am officially giving the Alamo Bowl, Camping World Bowl and Texas Bowl honorary "January" status. Now the Big 12's top 4 bids are represented (40% of the conference) compared to the Big 10's top 3-4 (21-29% of the conference). I'll be extra fair and throw in the pre-2014 Holiday Bowl.
Please list all of the Iowa State "January" bowl games under the new definition. The year, head coach and opponent would also be appreciated. Links would be especially helpful.
Thanks in advance.
The hell are you talking about? OSU played in five January Bowl games since 2010, only one being the Sugar Bowl. Others include Cotton, Fiesta, and the Heart of Dallas Bowl. Not going to waste my time looking up all the other current or former January tie ins for the B12.
And you guys wonder why everybody pokes fun at the big 12/whatever as a second rate conference?????
Is Matt Campbell the Hayden Fry of Iowa State? Hmm, he has to be the Johnny Majors and Earl Bruce before he can ever become the Hayden Fry. Add to that, he needs to get ISU to a Big time bowl game, and win a Big 12 championship as Hayden won the Big ten and took two Hawkeye teams to Rose Bowls. So, no, Campbell is not even close to being in Hayden's league. See me in about 15 or 20 years, if Campbell is still at Iowa State that is. My bet is, he will be gone to greener pastures once a bigger fish in the College football sea comes calling.
Hayden took 3 Iowa teams to the Rose Bowl. The 81, 85, and 90 Hawkeye teams ended up in Pasadena.
Still, your point stands. And this thread is stupid.
I just replied so this thread will move to the top, over the Nebraska thread!
I don’t think anybody is going to be Hayden Fry anymore. Guys like Fry and Ferentz who stay for 20 years won’t exist anymore.
Good lord that is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.
Cheesedick's ISU years had absolutely nothing to do with his hiring at Auburn.
Actually, lol, you could make the case he was hired by Auburn DESPITE his ISU years.
How many ADs are going to hire a guy who went 5-19? Lol, doesn't happen. Shows you exactly what they thought of ISU.
How can one compare a former assistant at Auburn, hired back as head coach, with Matt Campbell, with no Power 5 background?
Gene Chizik
Coaching career (HC unless noted)
1986–1987 Seminole HS (FL)(DC/LB)
1988–1989 Clemson (GA/OLB)
1990–1991 Middle Tennessee (DE)
1992–1994 Stephen F. Austin (LB)
1995 Stephen F. Austin (DB)
1996–1997 Stephen F. Austin(DC/DB)
1998 UCF (DC/LB)
1999–2001 UCF (DC/DB)
2002–2004 Auburn (DC/DB)
2005–2006 Texas (co-DC/AHC/LB)
2007–2008 Iowa State
2009–2012 Auburn
2015–2016 North Carolina (DC)
When did Matt Campbell coach at a Power 5?
Coaching career (HC unless noted)
2003–2004 Bowling Green (GA)
2005–2006 Mount Union (OC/OL)
2007 Bowling Green (OL)
2008 Bowling Green (RGC/OL)
2009 Toledo (RGC/OL)
2010–2011 Toledo (OC/OL)
2011 Toledo (interim HC)
2012–2015 Toledo
2016–present Iowa State
Hayden Fry was a good hire by Bump Elliott at Iowa, as was Campbell by Jamie Pollard at ISU.
But what will exist are programs that are destination jobs. Iowa's is. Sorry.
You putting the Fry hire and the Campbell hire on the same level might be the dumbest thing I've ever read. Congrats.
Your reading comprehension is poor. I suggested don't compare Campbell to Chizik. No reference was made to Fry.
"Hayden Fry was a good hire by Bump Elliott at Iowa, as was Campbell by Jamie Pollard at ISU."
You didn't write that?
I did and I should have also said Bob Bowlsby made a good hire with Kirk Ferentz.
Gene Chizik should never have been hired north of the Mason-Dixon Line.
Saying Fry was a "good" hire and Campbell was also a "good" hire is beyond stupid. Do you seriously think the Fry hire = the Campbell hire?
They were both good hires. Fry was a hall of fame hire. Campbell was a good hire and he will play competitive football at ISU.
I suspect this year's game will be competitive.
You're all over the place. Here's a hint, if and when Campbell transforms a program's culture, goes to Rose Bowls or bowls at that level regularly, achieves top-10 finishes and a #1 ranking, and does it at the same place for nearly 2 decades, then you can put his hiring on the same level as Fry. Until then, you just sound like a dumbass.
USING THE NAME HAYDEN FRY IN A THREAD TITLE WITH CAMPBELL IS VERY OFFENSIVE.
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