the worst team in any of the Power 5 Conferences? At some point this becomes unacceptable and Fran may need to go. I don't care if we have good recruits coming in or not, doesn't look like it'll help.
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Good Power 5 teams don't lose to the third best team in the state of Nebraska
Iowa isn't very good. But it's also not unheard of. Indiana lost a team from the Summit league a week ago. Shit happens.
It's a rebuilding year. We aren't a perennial power power house. It happens.
It's just like football, we need a new head coach who can both recruit AND coach. To win these days in any major sport you need BOTH
It doesn't. And it's not going to be fun listening to the idiots who will think we need to fire Fran and hire whatever mid-major head coach wins his conference and upsets Wisconsin to get to the sweet sixteen.
In 2016, yes. The coaches need to change their style or get the hell out of Iowa. This is not 2010 anymore
The best way to not ever become a perennial power is to clean house every time you have a bad season.
Yeah we dont really need to continue to repeat history. I think what's most frustrating with Iowa basketball is that yes, we are going to have down seasons, but just the way we finished the last two seasons when we had the talent and experience. It's left a lot to be desired.
When have successful programs ever not needed to recruit well and coach well? Coach K isn't successful if he has Drake's roster over the years.
I think we're probably just different ages. My first year at Iowa (as a student) was Todd Lickliter's first year at Iowa. I am evenwhelmed with Fran. Even this rough start to the season is better than anything we witnessed during Lick's tenure. The ball is moving on offense. Which never happened under Lick. We either make or miss looks. Pemsl and Cook have shown offense down low we never had with Woodbury. Defense isn't coached as much on the clipboard. It takes hard work and time if your roster doesn't have a tree like Woodbury.
Definitely the worst in the Big Ten. Look, I've said how much Fran not utilizing the transfer market to help with experience and class distribution would hurt. He could've landed a few but instead used scholarship on 4 year HS recruits that are projects and may not pay off like Flemming, Hutton, Williams, and Dailey so far. This is year 7 though and headed toward his worst. Yikes.
When Cook, Pemsl, JBo, and the others in that class all graduate we will have this huge dropoff of experience happen again unless Fran addresses the issue with transfers.
When Cook, Pemsl, JBo, and the others in that class all graduate we will have this huge dropoff of experience happen again unless Fran addresses the issue with transfers.
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Dailey is a true freshman. Williams is playing out of position (volunteer or voluntold - either way, even if he's good enough to handle the ball in our offense he's still going to be in a weird matchup defensively when we play man). The transfer/JUCO market is no less competitive than the high school market. We took Jones because he's a sizable shooter. He took us because he's from Waterloo. You can blame Fran for not being able to recruit an elite PG (which would make playing more man defense a bit easier), but we've been in on a few elite PG recruits that we lost which is something that happens rarely at Iowa. Unfortunately, God only produces a few elite point guards each year.
I don't think they can help but be stupid. And you know own the old saying...... you can't fix stupid.
Fran could've found a Bryce Cartwright level transfer at least who at least had experience at PG and another shooting guard or big. They were there. ISU finds them no problem and they sustain their success with good recruits and transfers mixed in every year.
They're worse than I thought they'd be, even at this point in the season. But they were never a likely NCAA tourney contender in the first place.
This was a step back year in the making.
What do they do with it now going forward?
Hopefully we see some development along the way. Wins will be sparse.
This was a step back year in the making.
What do they do with it now going forward?
Hopefully we see some development along the way. Wins will be sparse.
1 transfer isn't going to make a difference of more than 2-3 wins unless it's an elite player. I wish Fran and Kirk both had better strategies for evaluating/using the JUCO/transfer bucket of players we could expect to land, but it's not easy and there's always the question of why someone with D-1 talent ended up playing JUCO ball or why an underclassman wants to transfer.
We recruited the 1 Juco PG in the country a few years back and he wasn't any good. I'd much rather have someone like Jordan Bohannon. We also recruited a guy named Dale Jones that has been really unlucky with injuries. It's not like Fran refuses to recruit Jucos. They just haven't worked out.
