Is Tulsi the mistress of Putin?

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Meet Putin’s inner circle of evil, from Nikolai Patrushev to Ramzan Kadyrov

A look at the power players who form the Russian leader’s inner circle, including his former hockey bros turned oligarch henchmen.

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“It’s likely Patrushev helped hatch the plan for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine’s Crimea in 2014 and Putin’s attack against the rest of the Ukraine this past February. Patrushev is also a rabid anti-American propagandist who recently accused Washington of running a biological weapons program in Ukraine.”

This Kremlin talking point was parroted by none other than Tulsi Gabbard in US media.

 

[Bill Doak and 9 others]

Your response is MORE Russian propaganda?

Is NPR also considered Russian propaganda?🤣🤣🤣

 

[CarterHall]

Tulsi haters:

This is the person you are accusing of serving Russian interests for $59.95:

Never heard of this guy?

 

[mnole03]

Tulsi haters:

This is the person you are accusing of serving Russian interests for $59.95:

This is a weird argument because most spies have been decorated members of the military or law enforcement.

I don’t think Tulsi’s a paid operative. More of a Unity Mitford situation.

 

[CarterHall]

This is a weird argument because most spies have been decorated members of the military or law enforcement.

I don’t think Tulsi’s a paid operative. More of a Unity Mitford situation.

This guy gave it up for a little quim.

 

[Big Hawk D-Port]

the entire culture is rotten from top to bottom. alcoholism is rife, drug abuse is rife, education is for the elite, corruption permeates every level of government, corruption is a way of life for any russian public official. Those who propose reforms are marginalized, jailed, or murdered.

They are human beings, the same as us. In fact Russia has a very rich cultural history. Tchaikovsky, Shostakovich, Stravinsky, Tolstoy, and on…

The people there have really been victimized, first by Marxism and Communism, then by the corruption that led to Putin accumulating so much wealth and power. Unfortunately that is kind of the norm throughout the world. We take so much for granted.

 

[Big Hawk D-Port]

LOLWUT?

No, they simply do not.
You do not seem to understand the definition of "jingoism".
HINT: Totally unrelated to "democracy".

70% of the Russian people live in Europe. To the extent they are religious, they are Christians. They share a common history with the rest of Europe going back hundreds of years. Clearly it’s a complicated history but they share more in common than either does with China.

And jingoism is exactly what you are displaying in this thread.

 

[KFsdisciple]

You do understand that wearing the uniform is no shield against collaborating, right? Serving doesn't make someone a saint...or even a good person. Good people do serve...so do very bad ones.

Why do you hate the military? Ass hole.

 

[Jerome Silberman]

They are human beings, the same as us. In fact Russia has a very rich cultural history. Tchaikovsky, Shostakovich, Stravinsky, Tolstoy, and on…

The people there have really been victimized, first by Marxism and Communism, then by the corruption that led to Putin accumulating so much wealth and power. Unfortunately that is kind of the norm throughout the world. We take so much for granted.

Your Russian history needs work.

 

[Joes Place]

If Tulsi is Putin’s mistress does that make the Clintons his bitch?

FBI surprised Bill Clinton took $500,000 from Russia

When Bill Clinton received a $500,000 check to give a speech in Moscow, the FBI viewed it as further evidence the Russians were trying to get in with the Clintons.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Good thing Bill wasn't President anymore!!!

 

[Joes Place]

70% of the Russian people live in Europe. To the extent they are religious, they are Christians. They share a common history with the rest of Europe going back hundreds of years.

They really do not.

They have no idea what "representative democracy" is about. Instead, they view Putin as the Tsar, and the Tsar is unquestioned.

 

[Drake__Mallard]

first by Marxism and Communism

Yep, before those things came along things were pretty great.... 😂

 

[Joes Place]

Is NPR also considered Russian propaganda?🤣🤣🤣

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Your response is a comedy act?

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

They are human beings, the same as us. In fact Russia has a very rich cultural history. Tchaikovsky, Shostakovich, Stravinsky, Tolstoy, and on…

The people there have really been victimized, first by Marxism and Communism, then by the corruption that led to Putin accumulating so much wealth and power. Unfortunately that is kind of the norm throughout the world. We take so much for granted.

Surely if this invasion and ethnic terrorism ISN’T about territory land grab and resource grab Russia will return east Ukraine back to Kiev right?

Russia will also return the hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children they abducted in the occupied territories and shipped off to Russian indoctrination camps, yes?

 

[Bill Doak and 9 others]

Good thing Bill wasn't President anymore!!!

Good thing Tulsi has never been President!!! Why would Billy take a half million bucks to give a speech in a country - run by a dictator - that is “an anathema to democracy”? (Your words, not mine). Was he trying to convert them....or was he influence peddling?

Your response is a comedy act?

I don’t care if you want to watch it, but maybe reserve comment unless you do so you don’t look like a tool. NPR called out the blatant corruption of the Zelensky regime; most likely funneling talking points through the state department.

 

[Joes Place]

Good thing Tulsi has never been President!!! Why would Billy take a half million bucks to give a speech in a country - run by a dictator - that is “an anathema to democracy”?

....maybe to talk about "democracy" to them...???

 

[Bill Doak and 9 others]

So....lecture the Russians on democracy with greased palms. 😂

 

[seminole97]

Meet Putin’s inner circle of evil, from Nikolai Patrushev to Ramzan Kadyrov

A look at the power players who form the Russian leader’s inner circle, including his former hockey bros turned oligarch henchmen.

nypost.com

“It’s likely Patrushev helped hatch the plan for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine’s Crimea in 2014 and Putin’s attack against the rest of the Ukraine this past February. Patrushev is also a rabid anti-American propagandist who recently accused Washington of running a biological weapons program in Ukraine.”

This Kremlin talking point was parroted by none other than Tulsi Gabbard in US media.

Why is Victoria Nuland ‘parroting Kremlin talking points’ in her Congressional testimony?

Yesterday afternoon, Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), hoping to debunk growing claims that there are chemical weapons labs in Ukraine, smugly asked Nuland: “Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?”

Rubio undoubtedly expected a flat denial by Nuland, thus providing further "proof” that such speculation is dastardly Fake News emanating from the Kremlin, the CCP and QAnon. Instead, Nuland did something completely uncharacteristic for her, for neocons, and for senior U.S. foreign policy officials: for some reason, she told a version of the truth. Her answer visibly stunned Rubio, who — as soon as he realized the damage she was doing to the U.S. messaging campaign by telling the truth — interrupted her and demanded that she instead affirm that if a biological attack were to occur, everyone should be “100% sure” that it was Russia who did it. Grateful for the life raft, Nuland told Rubio he was right.

But Rubio's clean-up act came too late. When asked whether Ukraine possesses “chemical or biological weapons,” Nuland did not deny this: at all. She instead — with palpable pen-twirling discomfort and in halting speech, a glaring contrast to her normally cocky style of speaking in obfuscatory State Department officialese — acknowledged: “uh, Ukraine has, uh, biological research facilities.” Any hope to depict such "facilities” as benign or banal was immediately destroyed by the warning she quickly added: “we are now in fact quite concerned that Russian troops, Russian forces, may be seeking to, uh, gain control of [those labs], so we are working with the Ukrainiahhhns [sic] on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach” — [interruption by Sen. Rubio]:


Nuland's bizarre admission that “Ukraine has biological research facilities” that are dangerous enough to warrant concern that they could fall into Russian hands ironically constituted more decisive evidence of the existence of such programs in Ukraine than what was offered in that same Senate in 2002 and 2003 to corroborate U.S. allegations about Saddam's chemical and biological programs in Iraq. An actual against-interest confession from a top U.S. official under oath is clearly more significant than Colin Powell's holding up some test tube with an unknown substance inside while he points to grainy satellite images that nobody can decipher.

It should go without saying that the existence of a Ukrainian biological “research” program does not justify an invasion by Russia, let alone an attack as comprehensive and devastating as the one unfolding: no more than the existence of a similar biological program under Saddam would have rendered the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq justifiable. But Nuland's confession does shed critical light on several important issues and raises vital questions that deserve answers.

Any attempt to claim that Ukraine's biological facilities are just benign and standard medical labs is negated by Nuland's explicitly grave concern that “Russian forces, may be seeking to gain control of” those facilities and that the U.S. Government therefore is, right this minute, “working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces.” Russia has its own advanced medical labs. After all, it was one of the first countries to develop a COVID vaccine, one which Lancet, on February 1, 2021, pronounced was “ safe and effective” (even though U.S. officials pressured multiple countries, including Brazil, not to accept any Russian vaccine, while U.S. allies such as Australia refused for a full year to recognize the Russian COVID vaccine for purposes of its vaccine mandate). The only reason to be “quite concerned” about these "biological research facilities” falling into Russian hands is if they contain sophisticated materials that Russian scientists have not yet developed on their own and which could be used for nefarious purposes — i.e., either advanced biological weapons or dual-use “research” that has the potential to be weaponized.

What is in those Ukrainian biological labs that make them so worrisome and dangerous? And has Ukraine, not exactly known for being a great power with advanced biological research, had the assistance of any other countries in developing those dangerous substances? Is American assistance confined to what Nuland described at the hearing — “working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces” — or did the U.S. assistance extend to the construction and development of the "biological research facilities” themselves?

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At the very least, Nuland's surprising revelation reveals, yet again, just how heavily involved the U.S. Government is and for years has been in Ukraine, on the part of Russia's border which U.S. officials and scholars from across the spectrum have spent decades warning is the most sensitive and vulnerable to Moscow. It was Nuland herself, while working for Hillary Clinton and John Kerry's State Department under President Obama, who was heavily involved in what some call the 2014 revolution and others call the “coup” that resulted in a change of government in Ukraine from a Moscow-friendly regime to one far more favorable to the EU and the West. All of this took place as the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid $50,000 per month not to the son of a Ukrainian official but to Joe Biden's son, Hunter: a reflection of who wielded real power inside Ukraine.

Nuland not only worked for both the Obama and Biden State Departments to run Ukraine policy (and, in many ways, Ukraine itself), but she also was Vice President Dick Cheney's deputy national security adviser and then President Bush's Ambassador to NATO. She comes from one of America's most prestigious neocon royal families; her husband, Robert Kagan, was a co-founder of the notorious neocon war-mongering group Project for the New American Century, which advocated regime change in Iraq long before 9/11. It was Kagan, along with liberal icon Bill Kristol, who (along with current editor-in-chief of The Atlantic Jeffrey Goldberg), was most responsible for the lie that Saddam was working hand-in-hand with Al Qaeda, a lie that played a key role in convincing Americans to believe that Saddam was personally involved in the planning of 9/11.

That a neocon like Nuland is admired and empowered regardless of the outcome of elections illustrates how unified and in lockstep the establishment wings of both parties are when it comes to questions of war, militarism and foreign policy. Indeed, Nuland's husband, Robert Kagan, was signaling that neocons would likely support Hillary Clinton for president — doing so in 2014, long before anyone imagined Trump as her opponent — based on the recognition that the Democratic Party was now more hospitable to neocon ideology than the GOP, where Ron Paul and then Trump's neo-isolationism was growing.

You can vote against neocons all you want, but they never go away. The fact that a member of one of the most powerful neocon families in the U.S. has been running Ukraine policy for the U.S. for years — having gone from Dick Cheney to Hillary Clinton and Obama and now to Biden — underscores how little dissent there is in Washington on such questions. It is Nuland's extensive experience in wielding power in Washington that makes her confession yesterday so startling: it is the sort of thing people like her lie about and conceal, not admit. But now that she did admit it, it is crucial that this revelation not be buried and forgotten.

 

[Chishawk1425]

Email lady nailed it

 

[FlickShagwell]

Email lady nailed it

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God I wish I could get the money I gave her before I knew she was crazy back.