ISU....they are who we thought they were.
ISU going down again?
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They would have to rank below both Boise (MWC) and Army (AAC) to not get in at all so they’ll almost certainly make the playoff. But there are only 4 byes to be had and if Boise keeps winning and anyone but an undefeated BYU wins the Big12 then it’s possible they may not get a first round bye.
Also this is college football so there will be a bunch of upsets these next few weeks and all these scenarios everyone is laying out right now will probably not even end up mattering. The chaos is what makes the sport so fun.
Went to the game at Arrowhead. Left very disappointed. When you score 36 points, you should win. This was totally on the defense. Daniels had ALL DAY to throw the ball. Secondary was not good, but they can only cover receivers for so long. Becht had no time to throw.
7-2 after 9 games is still really really good, but disappointing because they had (past tense now) to get into CFP. It's very clear they still have a long ways to go.
Maybe all the CFP talk got to them? Who knows, but the last three games (I'm including the UCF game) have been awful.
No doom+ gloom. No fire Campbell, Heacock, or Mouser. Just frustrating. At the same time, they are 7-2....can't be too upset.
Next week at home vs Cincy. Winnable game.
Should be interesting.
7-2 after 9 games is still really really good, but disappointing because they had (past tense now) to get into CFP. It's very clear they still have a long ways to go.
Maybe all the CFP talk got to them? Who knows, but the last three games (I'm including the UCF game) have been awful.
No doom+ gloom. No fire Campbell, Heacock, or Mouser. Just frustrating. At the same time, they are 7-2....can't be too upset.
Next week at home vs Cincy. Winnable game.
Should be interesting.
Iowa...they are who we thought they were. A mid-lever big 12 team...but more boring. like their uniforms.
Boise could pass BYU by the end of the night if Utah keeps it up, but it will take a lot for Army to pass them (not impossible). Would be very funny to not see a Big12 team in the playoffs.
At least we know what our colors are, **** you have a different color red every year when you actually wear red and not black or white. So, take your Ketchup and Mustard and squirt it up your ass.
Please. After 8 games you are what your record says you are, and NO KU hasn't played UCLA's schedule either.....
you made a mistake here--your entire league is mid level to lower level---you have no upper level--and if Iowa is so boring why our TV games ratings higher than most of the big 12 games?
only team you have that draws any eyeballs is Colorado and we all know why that is--
you have zero traditions --zero rivals in your own league--I see it now--feature game of the week in the big 12--ISU vs kstate--Fox loves having to put that on.......ISU legends in their own minds....
Well, technically, that is true, but I don’t see that happening now unless BYU and Colorado completely tank to close out the season.
All they'd need to do is get to the title game. Colorado losing one would open that up. (ISU has the tie breaker with overall record) Arizona St still has to play BYU but they have an identical record to the clones..not sure how that tie would be broken.
Yeah, and I am guessing Iowa State is going to lose at least one more.
But, miracles do happen, so your point is well taken.
Without the new 2:00 minute warning rule ISU would have lost to Iowa and UCF.
If they play defense the way they've played the past two weeks, they might not win 8.
Or, maybe, just maybe, the clones aren’t very good. Your best win was against a very mediocre Iowa team 😂
not guaranteed a bye winning your conference. The 5 highest ranked conference champions get byes. So...Boise St, and Army could be ranked higher as conference champions and they wouldnt get a bye.
Iowa state is a good, but not very good, team. Kansas has a lot of great athletes and if they could get some discipline they’d have a better record.
so what's 1-4 I'd guess
1. Conf record
2. head-to-head with tied team
3. win % against common opponents
4. ?
Could go to #5.
only good thing that happened this weekend was ISU losing
Wrong! Can you imagine what their fanbase would have been like if they had snuck into the CFB?
Thankfully, the most overrated team and head coach in the country remembered who they are.
It's a watered down Big 12 that is as close to MAC level conference there is.
And that shit conference champ gets a first round bye in the playoff.
The CFP layout says the 4 highest ranked CONFERENCE champs are seeded 1-4 with automatic first round bye. I could misunderstanding that though.
Yep. No saying the Big 12 champ will be one of those four highest ranked champions. Boise St would have passed them last night had the Big 12 refs not stole the game from Utah.
Yes, it is guaranteed an auto bid. The P4 champs all are. Not guaranteed a bye...but likely will get one.
Not guaranteed an auto bid either. Only the top five conference champions are guaranteed an automatic bid.
This would require a team like Army (AAC) and the MWC champion to pass the Big 12 champion in the rankings, which is very improbable. The P4’s aren’t guaranteed anything.
While that would be annoying the main problem is that we didn't do enough to make it ourselves. That bothers me more.
I still believe Rocco departs for bigger money. He had some good stats yesterday. Obviously the pick 6 was not good, but get him behind an even better OL with better weapons and he would do great.
ISU usually isn't either. The last two times ISU beat Iowa they finished dead last in conference play. The other time under .500.
Interesting. I've read so many articles on this. I guess they all write as if it's assumed that the P4 will be among those 5 conf champs. Highly probable, but not an absolute.
I still think they should go to 16 and eliminate the byes. Even playing field.
It’s easy to mistake. Especially given the focus on P4, when there are actually 9 FBS conferences. Of course there are also the 3 Independents and the 2 PAC teams, but without 8 teams, I believe, they are not legitimately a conference for conference championship purposes.
Could even go to 24 like every other level of CFB does, including Div I-AA(FCS). Then you could have automatic bids for all nine conference champions and then have the remaining highest ranked teams fill in the rest of the field. The first two weeks of the playoffs are on the home campus of the higher seed and then it plays out like it does now. Is it a little excessive, maybe, but so is 68 teams in the NCAA tournament and that’s the best sporting event yet IMO. A 12 team playoff is a step in the right direction and certainly better than previous years.
Boise St is the real deal. Most have probably forgotten that Oregon only beat them by 3 back in September. If BYU loses one, Boise could pass them but BYU's SOS would probably still be stronger.
To be fair, I've never actually seen a legitimately good team in an ISU uniform. Beating us doesn't make them good and vice versa, especially true for us. ISU has had moments where, at times, they were above average, which is all the last five years have been for them, moments of being good, but I've never seen an actual team that was above average for them yet. Still true to this day.
Truthfully, Campbell would be wise to try and use this season as leverage to get a job next year that'll actually still exist in a decade. He really made a mistake the first time around and he may not have another chance as the B12 certainly can't be this bad every year, right?
