ISU hurting our SOS + Rhoads comments = Time to abandon ISU

[OnceAhawk]

During an an On Iowa Podcast with Scott Dochterman and Marc Morehouse, they discussed the 9 B1G game schedule; Scott said if it ever got to 10 conference games (KF has mentioned that he thinks things are heading that way), the first thing to drop is ISU because Iowa would want/need 7 home games EVERY year (5 B1G and 2 nonconference). Besides needing the 7 home games, Scott and Marc brought up a couple other points:

ISU fans bombarded both Scott and Marc all season on Twitter, saying Iowa did not belong in the CFP discussion because of its weak schedule. Scott found that ironic because Iowa's schedule looking weak was because ISU was so bad..

Scott mentioned that Paul Rhoads made a point of stating that Oklahoma was the best team ISU had faced, which was essentially a dig at Iowa.

Bottom line: Iowa does not need ISU. Having ISU on the schedule is a no win situation. Iowa is expected to beat ISU. ISU hurts Iowa's SOS. And ISU has done Iowa no favors when it comes at unnecessary digs by ISU coaches to the media.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

I think they should paint the water tower.

 

[amahawk]

Play ISU, beat ISU.

 

[Pepperman]

I don't see any reason to keep supporting their program either. Let them rot in the Mountain West once the Big 12 breaks apart. There is zero upside to playing them when they put all of their focus on the Iowa game and then proceed to go 3-9 each year.

 

[BubsFinn]

Play ISU, beat ISU.

F- ISU. They can go be mediocre in the Mountain West for all I care. Playing them does nothing for Iowa.

 

[noStemsnoSTICKS]

North Dakota State hurts your schedule worse than ISU. And I don't know why you would take offense to Rhodes comments about OU being the best team they faced all year. Iowa got a lot better as the season went on. And while they beat ISU--soundly--they weren't that great at the time. I remember watching that game thinking it was like a war of attrition.

 

[Pepperman]

And I don't know why you would take offense to Rhodes comments about OU being the best team they faced all year.

I don't have any problem with that either. Oklahoma is certainly perceived nationally as being better than Iowa as well. And they made the playoff while we didn't. All fine for Rhodes to say that as far as I'm concerned.

But then I also don't respect him much so I really don't care what he says about Iowa.

 

[theIowaHawk]

Geez, you are upset that a team claimed Oklahoma was tougher than Iowa (without even mentioning Iowa)?

Oklahoma beat them by 36, Iowa beat them by 14.

Some of you will reach to any lengths to wad your panties. Oklahoma is damned good this year.

 

[ft254]

During an an On Iowa Podcast with Scott Dochterman and Marc Morehouse, they discussed the 9 B1G game schedule; Scott said if it ever got to 10 conference games (KF has mentioned that he thinks things are heading that way), the first thing to drop is ISU because Iowa would want/need 7 home games EVERY year (5 B1G and 2 nonconference). Besides needing the 7 home games, Scott and Marc brought up a couple other points:

ISU fans bombarded both Scott and Marc all season on Twitter, saying Iowa did not belong in the CFP discussion because of its weak schedule. Scott found that ironic because Iowa's schedule looking weak was because ISU was so bad..

Scott mentioned that Paul Rhoads made a point of stating that Oklahoma was the best team ISU had faced, which was essentially a dig at Iowa.

Bottom line: Iowa does not need ISU. Having ISU on the schedule is a no win situation. Iowa is expected to beat ISU. ISU hurts Iowa's SOS. And ISU has done Iowa no favors when it comes at unnecessary digs by ISU coaches to the media.

Play Iowa State and shut up.

 

[herecomethehawkeyes]

ISU fans bombarded both Scott and Marc all season on Twitter, saying Iowa did not belong in the CFP discussion because of its weak schedule. Scott found that ironic because Iowa's schedule looking weak was because ISU was so .

ISU fans should worry more about their suck of a program and less about Iowa football...I forgot...this fanbase hates Iowa more than they like their squad

 

[OnceAhawk]

Geez, you are upset that a team claimed Oklahoma was tougher than Iowa (without even mentioning Iowa)?

Oklahoma beat them by 36, Iowa beat them by 14.

Some of you will reach to any lengths to wad your panties. Oklahoma is damned good this year.

Scott, a reporter, saw it is a dig at Iowa. This is not coming from a fan's perspective; it is coming from a reporter who covered the Hawkeyes and who had these experiences and observations.

 

[Hawkeyestate81]

F ISU and their dipsh$t fans. End the stupid series to speed up their demise.

 

[ih8iast8]

Play them, beat them, & ignore them when they go on & on & on about their small dick syndrome

 

[Herkmeister]

F- ISU. They can go be mediocre in the Mountain West for all I care. Playing them does nothing for Iowa.

Does this count: It keeps a shxt load of money in our state and it fills our stadium. And not many schools we played this year filled our stadium.

 

[HawkAttackDial911]

Does this count: It keeps a shxt load of money in our state and it fill our stadium. And not many schools we played this year filled our stadium.

We don't see that money when we play at ISU. Thus, we drop them and keep 7 home games every year.

 

[gohawkz]

Play ISU, beat ISU.

yes. Seriously. Finally a thread about dropping Iowa State! about time!

These people who are scared of playing them aren't Hawkeye fans, they are scared little bitches. Iowa State is absolutely worthless, and no matter how much more they want to win, if they do beat us...Iowa has failed. If Iowa quit playing them now they would be a laughing stock and rightfully so. Beat them SOUNDLY for at least 5 years in a row and then you can post this.

 

[dbq hawk 32]

Does this count: It keeps a shxt load of money in our state and it fill our stadium. And not many schools we played this year filled our stadium.

Not sure if you're aware how the gate sharing works in this series.

 

[Herkmeister]

Not sure if you're aware how the gate sharing works in this series.

Not at all. But I know butts in seats = money. And that money is for merchants as well as the universities. I know Kinnick was not full for Illinois, Pitt, or Maryland. (Not arguing. Just trying to understand. Perhaps my logic is skewed, but it seems logical to me.)

 

[BubsFinn]

Does this count: It keeps a shxt load of money in our state and it fill our stadium. And not many schools we played this year filled our stadium.

Wouldn’t it be better to bring money in from other states instead? Why not schedule Southern Illinois or North Dakota State or Toledo or Florida Atlantic, which will bring in fans who spend out of state money? Doesn’t that make a whole lot more sense? What good is it to take money out of your left pocket and put it in your right? In theory, ISU could do the same thing. In fact, they have the potential to put more out of state butts in their mostly-empty stadium.
For that matter, why do we even waste money on two FBS schools in a state with as small a population as Iowa? It would make financial sense to turn ISU into William Penn and keep the money in Iowa City rather than force UI to fund ISU’s athletic department.

 

[ichawk24]

Not sure if you're aware how the gate sharing works in this series.

There is no gate sharing, it went away a few years ago. The two teams keep the gate at our home games.

ISU is pretty much a guaranteed sellout at Kinnick. The Pitt game drew 63,636 this year.

The ISU road trip is cheaper than anything else Iowa has. The Iowa-ISU series is a huge financial positive for the Iowa athletic department.

 

[Herkmeister]

Wouldn’t it be better to bring money in from other states instead? Why not schedule Southern Illinois or North Dakota State or Toledo or Florida Atlantic, which will bring in fans who spend out of state money? Doesn’t that make a whole lot more sense? What good is it to take money out of your left pocket and put it in your right? In theory, ISU could do the same thing. In fact, they have the potential to put more out of state butts in their mostly-empty stadium.
For that matter, why do we even waste money on two FBS schools in a state with as small a population as Iowa? It would make financial sense to turn ISU into William Penn and keep the money in Iowa City rather than force UI to fund ISU’s athletic department.

You had a pretty good troll going there early. Why'd you show your hand at the end? It was really good. YOU MUST LEARN TO FINISH!!!!

 

[unsubstantiated]

I feel the bottom line is that we need to keep at least one LEGITIMATE power 5 team on our OOC schedule. As the number of B1G games increases, ISU has to go. Given that we need these other "home only" games for financial reasons, what choice do we have?

ISU beating us as often as they do is inexplicable to me, and does nothing to change the fact that they are and always have been a joke. Beating ISU is NEVER a good win, but losing is ALWAYS a horrible loss. Even beating them soundly hurts Iowa's SOS.

 

[millah_22]

Iowa needs Iowa State. Every year either Iowa City or Ames absolutely rake as far as city income. A lot of students from each college will travel to the other cities.

Also, don't act like you don't get excited for this game every year. It's a god damn rivalry.

What Iowa really needs is for Iowa State to be good. Even 8 or 9 win good. That way when Iowa beats them it will be a quality win instead of a hole in the schedule.

 

[unsubstantiated]

What Iowa really needs is for Iowa State to be good. Even 8 or 9 win good. That way when Iowa beats them it will be a quality win instead of a hole in the schedule.

Of course, but that just isnt going to happen...ever.

 

[EZ2BJZ]

The reality is Iowa has EVERYTHING to lose in this series and NOTHING to gain. Win and it's "Mmmeh." Lose and you are the laughingstock of college football. And, as everyone knows, the only thing Iowa State fans treasure more than a win over Iowa is a row of sheep lined up in the missionary position.

Seriously. Every time a new football coach is hired there and there is always this inane talk about beating Iowa and making it a Cyclone state and blah blah blah. The obsession and inferiority complex is ridiculous. If Iowa was taken off the schedule, I don't know if Iowa State fans would know how to function.

 

[HawkeyeFever62]

Geez, you are upset that a team claimed Oklahoma was tougher than Iowa (without even mentioning Iowa)?

Oklahoma beat them by 36, Iowa beat them by 14.

Some of you will reach to any lengths to wad your panties. Oklahoma is damned good this year.

I'm sure Texas thinks ISU is better than Oklahoma but that doesn't mean it's true.

 

[spiderland]

I don't see any reason to keep supporting their program either. Let them rot in the Mountain West once the Big 12 breaks apart. There is zero upside to playing them when they put all of their focus on the Iowa game and then proceed to go 3-9 each year.

This.

The clock is ticking on the Clowns, and unfortunately for them, time is not on their side. The "situation" we have with ISU will eventually sort itself out, once the Texas 10 folds for good, and our cardinal and gold brethren to the west emerge to find themselves the mid-major program they've forever been destined to be.

Meanwhile, let's just please beat the sh*t out of them for good measure...

 

[MAXIMUSHAWKEYE]

Anyone that thinks playing ISU in football benefits Iowa at all is an idiot. If they want to play us..fine. But only at Kinnick and only evey other 5 years.

 

[OneHawk91]

Drop Iowa State and paint the Water Tower already. Geesh.

 

[hawksauce]

Geez, you are upset that a team claimed Oklahoma was tougher than Iowa (without even mentioning Iowa)?

Oklahoma beat them by 36, Iowa beat them by 14.

Some of you will reach to any lengths to wad your panties. Oklahoma is damned good this year.

There's some other poster on here who seems to get their panties in a wad over anything and everything?.... Just can't quite think of who he is....?

 

[theIowaHawk]

There's some other poster on here who seems to get their panties in a wad over anything and everything?.... Just can't quite think of who he is....?

Not Iowa State ... that's just pathetic.

 

[OnceAhawk]

This.

The clock is ticking on the Clowns, and unfortunately for them, time is not on their side. The "situation" we have with ISU will eventually sort itself out, once the Texas 10 folds for good, and our cardinal and gold brethren to the west emerge to find themselves the mid-major program they've forever been destined to be.

Meanwhile, let's just please beat the sh*t out of them for good measure...

Their fan base deserves the Mountain West or worse. Playing them is a lose lose situation for Iowa; if we lose to ISU, it's a killer for our SOS. if we win, well, we are supposed to beat them. So, what is the point of playing them?

 

[thewop]

During an an On Iowa Podcast with Scott Dochterman and Marc Morehouse, they discussed the 9 B1G game schedule; Scott said if it ever got to 10 conference games (KF has mentioned that he thinks things are heading that way), the first thing to drop is ISU because Iowa would want/need 7 home games EVERY year (5 B1G and 2 nonconference). Besides needing the 7 home games, Scott and Marc brought up a couple other points:

ISU fans bombarded both Scott and Marc all season on Twitter, saying Iowa did not belong in the CFP discussion because of its weak schedule. Scott found that ironic because Iowa's schedule looking weak was because ISU was so bad..

Scott mentioned that Paul Rhoads made a point of stating that Oklahoma was the best team ISU had faced, which was essentially a dig at Iowa.

Bottom line: Iowa does not need ISU. Having ISU on the schedule is a no win situation. Iowa is expected to beat ISU. ISU hurts Iowa's SOS. And ISU has done Iowa no favors when it comes at unnecessary digs by ISU coaches to the media.

ISU isn't going anywhere. 10 conference games isn't going to happen, and ISU will be an anchor keeping our schedule down every year. It will continue to be a "bad loss" or just another win against a bad team. Wow, that was uplifting...

 

[hexumhawk]

More conference games are going to happen as that is the trend. Like said above, if we want to keep home gate $ and have the ability to schedule different P5 school then they should get rid of ISU.

It doesn't help us at all to play them and only helps them legitimize their program. Lose-Lose for us in almost every fashion.

 

[Dauminator]

I remember watching that game thinking it was like a war of attrition.

I do not think that means what you think it means.

 

[ahawkfan91]

Scott mentioned that Paul Rhoads made a point of stating that Oklahoma was the best team ISU had faced, which was essentially a dig at Iowa.

It was also the truth, not to mention a way to bolster his conference's chances of getting a team into the Playoff versus the Big Ten, back when that was very much in doubt.

The OP needs to get the sand out of his vagina.

 

[HaWk3Y3s]

I would be ok with us dropping ISU IF we replace them with a legit P5 opponent. If we're talking about 10 conference games, however, that isn't going to happen. We want the home game, no P5 school is going to agree to play Iowa only at Kinnick. So, we'll just end up with more North Texas, Arkansas State, Florida Atl, type games. How does that help our SOS anymore than playing ISU? I'd rather just keep ISU.

 

[Titanhawk2]

If Iowa is going to "need" 7 home games out of 12 each year, so will everybody else. How much difference is there from a sell out and fairly competitive home and home with ISU versus having to pay $1M or more in the future to get a North Texas State to come here and lay down?

 

[hoffmkr]

Oklahoma probably was a better team when ISU played them. No concern about that statement.

However, right now, the current Iowa/Iowa State contract is BAD for Univ of Iowa economically.

Yes, Iowa sells 70k seats at $70 a ticket against ISU at the cost of TWO games.
Now lets say Iowa sells 63K seats at $50 a ticket against MAC school with no return trip or worst case 2 for 1 with the one at Chicago. Even 2-1, you average Ticket receipt is barely lower while you get an additional 1/2 game worth of parking and concessions.

Also, ISU is a team that consistently plays better against Iowa than the rest of the year. This means a stronger chance to lose or have a close win versus a team the rest of the nation looks down on.

From a Cost perspective, playing home and home against Iowa State is poor business. Unfortunately, from past examples, I think Pollard is a stronger AD and don't expect Barta to make any changes.

 

[gojojo]

I think you can guarantee that if the B1G goes to a 10 game schedule we will drop ISU for the exact reason mentioned, the need for 7 home games. These games bring in way too much money to the university and the surrounding community to go to 6 every other year.

I didn't like the move to these power conferences as it was clear the big out of conference games were going to become a thing of the past. The national media blasted us a bit for it this year, but I don't see any reason to go out and try and schedule a home-home with a team like the Miami of the early 90's like we did when you play a 9 or 10 games conference schedule. It is fun, in theory, but starting the season with a kick to the groin on your home field isn't a great recipe in building a strong season.

If this becomes a move all power conferences make, the move to 9 or 10 games, I wonder if Notre Dame will begin to find scheduling a bit rough. I know everyone wants to play them now, but adding another tough game on the road sounds much less appealing than scheduling 2 expected wins.