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Isu signs Matt Campbell

Script_IOWA said:
Your hyperbole is ridiculous. Barta is a good but not great AD. Look at the baseball team and where Fran has taken us considering where we were with Lickdicker.
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I will play devils advocate. When people talk about great Fran hire after LIckliter disaster Barta also made that hire too of Lick. Best thing he did was have 5 person committee on search for Fran. Supposedly from get go Bobby Hanson one of the people on it huge fan of Fran.
 
They're not going to attract anyone better than Campbell for now so good signing by ISU. With all the coach openings this year? Definitely a good move for Iowa State. He has the fan base excited which is pretty rare. They might even sell out a game next year! (Uh, wait. When was the last time Iowa sold out a game?)
 
TouchdownMyPants said:
I think this is good for everyone. If he can make them respectable, at least we aren’t laughed at for losses to them. We win again next year either way, and the game two years from now will actually be a good matchup. By that time, true colors will have shined through and we will know if ISU has stability or a continuation of the turnstile.

Cheers Chicken Nugget Heads!!
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Good thing Iowa has that nice ISU win on their resume. The fine folks in New York may come a callin’ and ask Iowa to participate in their Yankee Bowl.

Anyone who thinks a successful ISU is beneficial to Iowa in any way is crazier than a guy who says da and ya. Plain and simple.
 
I know people like and want Iowa St to be good and/or respectable and often use the excuse "good for our strength of schedule when they are decent". Contrary to all of the haters facts are that Iowa has a certain area when it comes to recruiting, it also means Iowa needs to get as many in state kids as they possibly can. Recruiting in today's environment is insanely hard and competitive, the people bitching about Iowa not getting "good players" shows how unrealistic and insane a lot of fans are.

In short. Recruiting in state has a bigger priority than SOS against ISU.
 
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Hawkfan5220 said:
I know people like and want Iowa St to be good and/or respectable and often use the excuse "good for our strength of schedule when they are decent". Contrary to all of the haters facts are that Iowa has a certain area when it comes to recruiting, it also means Iowa needs to get as many in state kids as they possibly can. Recruiting in today's environment is insanely hard and competitive, the people bitching about Iowa not getting "good players" shows how unrealistic and insane a lot of fans are.

In short. Recruiting in state has a bigger priority than SOS against ISU.
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And it trickles down farther than recruiting. Fan support and financial support. The list goes on and on as to why a respectable ISU is bad for Iowa. The SOS is meaningless unless it comes down to the playoffs. Even then, I don’t see Iowa ever getting the benefit of the doubt when it comes to rankings whether they play a 10th ranked ISU or 70th ranked ISU.
 
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dekhawk said:
With all due respect , Omaha is not that far from Lincoln and Des Moines is not better than Omaha.
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Yes....Des Moines is dramatically better than Omaha. Doesn't have anything to do with football but I will stick up for my state.
 
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A good Iowa State is not a good thing for Iowa in any way other than SOS which means nothing anyway. If Iowa runs the table they will make the play-offs and the SOS won't mean anything. A 1 loss Iowa likely won't make the play-offs.
 
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I think Iowa is better off with him at Iowa State than at the Corn-shuckers! The facilities and budget is unlimited in Nebby land. Recruiting against him as Nebby coach would be harder.
 
dekhawk said:
You need to get out more. Especially out of Des Moines.
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I will stick up for the guy who says Des Moines is better than Omaha. I travel for a living and if Omaha is not the dirtiest, crappiest town I've been to, I don't know what is.
 
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I will stick up for the guy who says Des Moines is better than Omaha. I travel for a living and if Omaha is not the dirtiest, crappiest town I've been to, I don't know what is.
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Like most cities. Some areas are nice and some are crap. I’m not a husker fan but Des Moines is not going to give Iowa state an advantage over Nebraska versus Omaha.
 
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dekhawk said:
With all due respect , Omaha is not that far from Lincoln and Des Moines is not better than Omaha.
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There is a reason that "getting shot in Omaha" is a running gag on the Internet. That place is a dump. By claiming its a better city than Des Moines in this thread, you're showing that you are too biased against Iowa State to even be able to concede a small point in Iowa State's favor, even when everyone else already knows its true anyway.
 
Eternal Return said:
They're not going to attract anyone better than Campbell for now so good signing by ISU. With all the coach openings this year? Definitely a good move for Iowa State. He has the fan base excited which is pretty rare. They might even sell out a game next year! (Uh, wait. When was the last time Iowa sold out a game?)
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Really smart move by Campbell to leverage this season ... also, wise move by ISU to try to retain him. At least currently, ISU is nowhere near being a "destination" school ... but what they do have is truly impressive and loyal fan-base. Campbell can essentially have infinite job security at ISU .... all the while getting seriously PAID. Not unlike Ferentz, he recognizes a good thing ... and can hold out for his dream-job. In the context of Ferentz ... he's been at Iowa so long ... that being the Hawk coach became a dream-like job for him. He gets the control over the program ... and he gets do to it "the right way" ... or at least the "right way" as he sees it.
 
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I don't think it was a bad move. Other teams have started snoopin around that are looking for a new coach. And he has certainly turned things around fast at ISU, if he can keep it going. Even if he doesn't improve much from 7-5 I think the fans would still be satisfied. Those fans know a lot of bad years.
 
Hawkfan5220 said:
I know people like and want Iowa St to be good and/or respectable and often use the excuse "good for our strength of schedule when they are decent". Contrary to all of the haters facts are that Iowa has a certain area when it comes to recruiting, it also means Iowa needs to get as many in state kids as they possibly can. Recruiting in today's environment is insanely hard and competitive, the people bitching about Iowa not getting "good players" shows how unrealistic and insane a lot of fans are.

In short. Recruiting in state has a bigger priority than SOS against ISU.
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We'll see how the recruiting angle continues to play out. Iowa has been somewhat spoiled in-state while ISU has been "down" ... however, years ago, ISU still could recruit okay within more of their traditional thumb-print. Recruiting the Des Moines area has certainly gotten harder ... but Reese Morgan has done a terrific job of cultivating relationships with in-state coaches. Iowa still has a head-start on ISU in that respect ... and it will still take some time for Campbell to continue to gain traction.

Furthermore, Campbell pulled a 7-5 season with a veteran roster .... all while programs like Texas, Baylor, and Texas Tech were "down." Even Kansas State isn't quite at the level where they usually are.

Thus, how will Campbell fare when his roster isn't as veteran? ... or when the other Texas schools return to their prior stature? What level of success will he be able to maintain?
 
Good for MC, cashed in when he could. That said, ISU is a bottom of the barrel P5 program and 7-8 wins is the ceiling with 3-5 wins being the norm. MC will hear the complaining starting next year. Seems like every game ISU was in they were just throwing it up to Lazard, who is a senior.
 
Kaiser_Soze said:
Good for MC, cashed in when he could. That said, ISU is a bottom of the barrel P5 program and 7-8 wins is the ceiling with 3-5 wins being the norm. MC will hear the complaining starting next year. Seems like every game ISU was in they were just throwing it up to Lazard, who is a senior.
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I can see ISU remaining ahead of Kansas ... and perhaps even rising above Kansas State. IF they can pull even with West Virginia ... then that MAYBE keeps them ahead of Texas Tech and/or Baylor. However, the recruiting draw of Tech and Baylor is sufficiently high ... that with the right coaches, those teams are capable of being at TCU levels. Say ISU keeps their level of play up ... do they still win when their opposition takes them seriously?

There is a reason why Iowa lost to Purdue .... part of it was attributable to fine coaching by Brohm and Co ... however, another part of it was attributable to the Iowa squad making the classic error of not taking their foe seriously. When you drop your guard ... you set yourself up for defeat. I even know for a fact that Ferentz preaches that mantra to the team ... but you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make them drink.

Does ISU still beat Oklahoma and TCU if the circumstances were different? Maybe .. but also maybe-not. Similarly, does Iowa beat OSU if they entered the game more sharp and more focused? Suppose Wilson wasn't stupid by thinking that OSU could just out-speed Iowa in the passing game ... had they run Dobbins more early, OSU likely tires out Iowa's D and keeps the ball away from Iowa's O (that was playing lights-out that night).
 
WhiteSoxClone said:
There is a reason that "getting shot in Omaha" is a running gag on the Internet. That place is a dump. By claiming its a better city than Des Moines in this thread, you're showing that you are too biased against Iowa State to even be able to concede a small point in Iowa State's favor, even when everyone else already knows its true anyway.
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I grew up 20 miles from Omaha. It was the butt of jokes at the time. It isn't now. Given a choice between living in Omaha or Des Moines -- without regard to sports -- I would opt for Omaha.
 
ghostOfHomer777 said:
I can see ISU remaining ahead of Kansas ... and perhaps even rising above Kansas State. IF they can pull even with West Virginia ... then that MAYBE keeps them ahead of Texas Tech and/or Baylor. However, the recruiting draw of Tech and Baylor is sufficiently high ... that with the right coaches, those teams are capable of being at TCU levels. Say ISU keeps their level of play up ... do they still win when their opposition takes them seriously?

There is a reason why Iowa lost to Purdue .... part of it was attributable to fine coaching by Brohm and Co ... however, another part of it was attributable to the Iowa squad making the classic error of not taking their foe seriously. When you drop your guard ... you set yourself up for defeat. I even know for a fact that Ferentz preaches that mantra to the team ... but you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make them drink.

Does ISU still beat Oklahoma and TCU if the circumstances were different? Maybe .. but also maybe-not. Similarly, does Iowa beat OSU if they entered the game more sharp and more focused? Suppose Wilson wasn't stupid by thinking that OSU could just out-speed Iowa in the passing game ... had they run Dobbins more early, OSU likely tires out Iowa's D and keeps the ball away from Iowa's O (that was playing lights-out that night).
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You may have a point with OU, but no way in hell was TCU looking past the ISU game.
 
Lone Clone said:
You may have a point with OU, but no way in hell was TCU looking past the ISU game.
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TCU would have been fools to ... I would agree. However, football players aren't always the brightest bulbs either. Patterson is a good coach ... so I'm sure that he approached the game seriously. However, that doesn't mean that his players didn't view the OU loss to ISU as a fluke.
 
ISU's peers in B12 are KU, KSU and potentially WVU. When was the last time any of those schools won anything? It is a really hard job and MC deserves a pat on the back. Beating OU and TCU in the same season is remarkable. Going forward the odds of repeating that feat or winning more than 5 games with regularity are slim b/c of recruiting and resource challenges. I wonder how they are paying this salary as is.
 
EpenesaEpenesa said:
Power 5 Head Coach is a helluva position if you can get it.
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Head coach at any FBS school and you've won the lottery. The $$$$$$$ in college football have reached the stratosphere. Thanks NFL for working so hard to turn your crown over to the college kids. Serves you right.
 
ISU is going to be pulling in some good recruits now that he has shown he can win there and he is staying. Already getting picks on 247 to get a 4. Star from Ohio. Number 111 player in the nation on rivals.
 
Along with the Campbell raise. They also announced 75 million more work to be done to the Stadium. Also, for all of you dogging us resigning a coach after a 7-5 year. What was Kirks record after year 2? At Iowa State you have to take a swing. If it pays off you look like the smartest AD out there. IF it fails it won['t be for a few years that we will know that. I like the shot we took with him. Also, The NE endzone where the work will be done will make the stadium even better. So it looks like IOwa State is all in football now.
 
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We’re going to have to take Iowa State as seriously as we do Penn State and Michigan.
Campbell is a very good coach, and he’ll have an even better handle on how to attack our younger LBs after another offseason.

I’m looking forward to the game already, because I have a good feeling that if we win, they’ll help our SOS later on.
 
andy1992 said:
Along with the Campbell raise. They also announced 75 million more work to be done to the Stadium. Also, for all of you dogging us resigning a coach after a 7-5 year. What was Kirks record after year 2? At Iowa State you have to take a swing. If it pays off you look like the smartest AD out there. IF it fails it won['t be for a few years that we will know that. I like the shot we took with him. Also, The NE endzone where the work will be done will make the stadium even better. So it looks like IOwa State is all in football now.
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I really hope they upgrade their sound system. I have trouble hearing it over the TV announcers when they play the Hawks. It makes it more fun when the mascot and Luv-a-Bulls come out with the t-shirt cannon.
 
Kaiser_Soze said:
ISU's peers in B12 are KU, KSU and potentially WVU. When was the last time any of those schools won anything? It is a really hard job and MC deserves a pat on the back. Beating OU and TCU in the same season is remarkable. Going forward the odds of repeating that feat or winning more than 5 games with regularity are slim b/c of recruiting and resource challenges. I wonder how they are paying this salary as is.
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This is true, although I concede I may be biased. Outsiders probably don't realize how close to a really incredible season Iowa State was. Four of the five losses could have been wins if the last possession of the game had been different -- in three cases, the last play. The only solid loss was a 10-pointer to Texas.
 
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