It's accurate. When there have only been a couple upsets in the last 17 years I think it's pretty stupid to say someone tries harder than the other team
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It's accurate. When there have only been a couple upsets in the last 17 years I think it's pretty stupid to say someone tries harder than the other team
The Big 12's defense is bad, but you're wrong if you think their offensive numbers are just from playing bad conference D. As a reminder Baylor put up 49 points with the 3rd string QB against NC in their bowl game and TCU put up 47 against Oregon with their back up QB.
Over in the B1G this bowl season: Iowa allowed 45, Northwestern allowed 45, and Mich St allowed 48. We'll call it a black eye on our reputation of being known for defense...
This may tarnish my reputation, but I cannot find anything in this post with which to disagree.
Yes. That is why I carefully wrote that he was the best offensive freshman in the league.
Why do you care about another school so much that them losing is one of the best things about college football every year?
One only has to go to the Iowa game in ames and then any other ISU home game to see the difference.
I've been to several of each and it isn't comparable. Their players and fans are out of their minds during the Iowa game. An entirely different feel and atmosphere than when playing say K State or Nebraska or Missouri or Texas. Been to all
"If that was the case you'd think ISU would have more upsets in the series"
NO - because the upsets are in fact upsets. The Hawks are plain and simple a better team year after year - decade after decade. On any given day - anyone - can be beaten under the right circumstance. But - it isn't normally going to happen.
NO - because the upsets are in fact upsets. The Hawks are plain and simple a better team year after year - decade after decade. On any given day - anyone - can be beaten under the right circumstance. But - it isn't normally going to happen.
That's not true at all actually. Ferentz has lost to ISU 9 times and 6-7 of those times ISU was the better team.
I just care more for every team on the schedule not named Iowa State to win. For example, GO Panthers! My day will be much better when UNI beats ISU than the other way around. Just the way sports works you know. You cheer for teams you care about to win.
It wasn't that long ago that Mark Mangion was isu's savior. Now the newest isu savior is an OL coach.
At isu they build a statue for a coach that had a losing record against Iowa while at isu.
isu is so bad historically that all they have are upsets. isu is never expected or ranked as a great team. Yet isu fans will never grasp of that.
Why do you care so much about another group's team that you have over 1000 remarks on their message boards? From I can tell, you just sit here all day, arguing and commenting on multiple threads? Don't get me wrong, I think some of your posts have substance, but I just don't get your thought process. Do you somehow think you are defending your team's honor? Do you believe anyone, anywhere, representing ISU cares about your efforts? Please, stop taking everything so personal and realize this is a forum, with both die-hards and everyday Joe's. No need to argue every stupid comment with further stupidity.
Really I'm just poking holes in the "Super Bowl" myth here that gets thrown around. I'm not taking anything personal
Then post pictures of a Billboard that Pollard directs at a school other than Iowa. Post a picture of isu having a tackling dummy with a jersey of a school other than Iowa. Give us a picture of when isu fans don't storm the field after beating Iowa in ames.
Good luck. Until then Iowa is and always will be isu's Super Bowl.
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You didn't care to address my post about a completely neutral observer that thinks the "Super Bowl" myth is 100% correct though?
I have a friend from Oklahoma that is completely neutral and he thinks the Iowa fans and players want to win the game more than ISU fans. He went with me to Kinnick in 2014 and has been to other games in Kinnick and said he has never seen the fan base like that before.
I still think both teams want to win the game and almost all of the time the better team wins
1) The Iowa fanbase in 2014 was about as angry as you could be at Kirk. Losing to a pitiful ISU team was a big blow. We had the wrong players at the QB and RB position. You're biased as hell and you even admitted the 2014 Iowa team was better than ISU.
2) My friend has been to 10 games between Iowa and Iowa State with half in each venue. His opinion trumps that of your friend.
You really do look like a fool continuing to argue this. You have some decent points, but this is your worst one and you look like a moron.
Yes because your argument that you have one friend that thinks ISU fans care more is such a solid argument.
The facts are there, almost all of the time the better team wins. If Iowa fans and players care more or ISU fans or players care more it clearly doesn't make a difference in the outcome. Iowa fans that say it's ISU's "Super Bowl" just use it as an excuse on why Iowa lost to a bad football program when in reality it usually just means Iowa is not very good that year
Would you prefer for him to post pictures of Pollards billboard or Tommy Birch's picture of an Iowa jersey on a isu tackling dummy the opening day of camp?
Unless you post pictures of isu doing the same with other schools it is clear Iowa is isu's Super Bowl.
Well, every time Iowa does something special. Like end up being ranked in the top ten in the country, several times in the KF era or go to a big time type bowl, you people pull out the weak BIG theory. ISU couldn't go 12-0 in the mac or mountain west. Do something a little bigger than upsetting an instate rival if you want to be noticed.
Actually I agree with your last sentence. But in several of those years Iowa improves through the year and becomes a decent or better team although not always world beaters. It's ISU's fault they don't.
I never said ISU could go 12-0 in any conference. Also usually if ISU beats Iowa they end up being decent.
I don't care to go back and look, but where are these "facts" you speak of? All I recall is your personal opinion on which was the better team. An well that's, man, just your opinion.
What years did ISU win that you think Iowa was the better team? I already gave you 2002 and 2014. 2007 both teams sucked but I guess you could say Iowa was better because they had a better record but neither made postseason and ISU played 5 top 25 teams that year compared to Iowa's 2
add 2011 to the tally. Iowa had a better record played as many ranked teams as isu and held their own against OU. Unlike little bro of course.
It doesn't matter what I "think", because see once again that would just be my opinion. You said the facts are there, and I simply asked you to provide them.
2005 for example, both teams were 7-5 and ISU won the head to head. I would say that is a fact that the better team won. 2011 Iowa State won and finished the season 6-7. Iowa was 7-6 but only played 4 ranked teams all year. ISU played 7 ranked teams that year and had the second hardest schedule in the country plus beat the #2 team in the country that year. I would say those are facts
Those may be facts standing by themselves, but particularly the 2nd example is far from a fact as to who was the better team. Try again
Ferentz had to deal with no talent after Hayden. ISU being the better team in those years isn't saying much even though those were close games
Some limited success over Iowa is really all you have. You might celebrate one game when we can celebrate entire seasons. Iowa's peaks tower over ISU's.
So tell us about the 2011 season. Iowa lost to little bro played as many ranked teams as little bro and ended up with a better record.
I don't think I've ever implied Iowa State having near the success as Iowa has in football. Iowa State is historically one of the worst college football programs in the country
