Jirehl Brock to Iowa State
- Thread starter Blair Sanderson
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There is the "4 out of 5 dentists surveyed" reference. I love it. You folks get funnier by the day.
As you indicated, it's certainly possible that the Hawks contacted Brock as soon as Goodson indicated that he'd likely commit. The Hawks may have given Brock the scenario that they'd need is commit ASAP or they couldn't guarantee him a spot on the roster.
Some Iowa fans here want to claim that the Iowa coaches like Goodson. I don't buy that ... I think that the Iowa coaches really liked both prospects.
Similarly, I think that many ISU fans out there want to suggest that Brock picked ISU over Iowa. That narrative is patently false - because by the time Brock was ready to make a decision, the Hawks were no longer in a position to take on another RB commit.
No. The important thing for the Clones is that he had some connection to IOWA so they can weave a story that suits them and pound their chests.
But your summary covers it well. Iowa got guys they wanted and so they were willing to scratch Brock off their list. He then chose ISU. That's how things play out sometimes.
I'll take a measured, strategic approach over "throw out as many offers as you can" any day.
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Just semantics. If Brock was going to commit to Iowa, he would have. He did choose ISU over Iowa. The staff figured he wasn't coming to Iowa so they pulled the offer. I told you folks before that Brock had a connection to ISU.
That doesn't even begin to make sense. Teams give out a lot of offers to recruits and at some point they realize they won't commit, but they would never take that offer away due to that. You only take an offer away if you're filled up or the kid has issues.
Iowa pulled the offer because they got the guy they wanted (in Tyler Goodson). If they wanted another RB they probably wouldn't have turned away Breece Hall - when he followed up with the Iowa coaches a couple weeks ago to see if they still had interest in him. Regardless, you shouldn't let the fact that Iowa didn't have room for either Brock or Hall get you down. I think both will be serviceable for the clones in the long run.
Hadn't Brock already narrowed his list, excluding Iowa, before Goodson committed? Ditto Hall? I confess I don't follow this stuff very closely, primarily because it's so "iffy." Too many sure-fire recruits have fizzled, and too many neglected recruits have become stars, to take this whole process too seriously. I may be wrong about the timing.
In terms of guys already available, though, it's been awhile since ISU has been as good at RB as it is right now, without either of the recruits.
I guess it's July and this is the season for this kind of thing. It's fun.
Per Brock, Iowa canceled his official visit and told him to look elsewhere. This happened before Goodson committed publicly so either Iowa knew Goodson was going to commit (seems likely) or decided to move on from Brock for other reasons.
According to what both Tom and Blair have said....it's a 'no' to both questions. And I don't believe Brock or Hall ever eliminated Iowa from their lists, until they were forced to - with Iowa backing away.
This is still 100% wrong. Not semantics.
Sad as it may be, even a well-informed person like yourself cannot reason with a clone.
Sure they did. The kid came to IC 5 times. They couldn't get him to commit so they pulled the offer and grabbed Goodson.
Don't believe you. Since Brock is coming to ISU, I bet he will speak up about his recruitment.
Translation... this doesn't fit my narrative so I will choose to ignore the person that has spoken to the recruit directly because I am a childish loser with no life
Tom and Blair are best in the business bar none. They aren’t the arm of the AD like Chris Williams and Randy Peterson.
It's not complicated at all. Iowa, Purdue and ND (if he ever had a real offer) all moved on and Brock was forced to jump on the ISU offer. Too bad for the kid really. It seems he could have done better than one of the 3 worst programs in college football history.
In an effort to move on from Brock, let’s just agree that he’s a great player, that he could become a great player, but that Iowa got what they wanted — 2 commits at the RB spot.
Not according to Tom and Blair and they are waaaay more in the know than you, Chris Williams, Randy Peterson and anyone in your circle (jerk).
Who’s his counterpart that covers Iowa? Chad something I believe. Now there is a prime example of unbiased and completely objective reporting of all things Hawkeye he says sarcastically.
Look, if we apologize to you ISU fans and Jirehl’s Mom for disinviting him to our BBQ will you please go away?
We are truly sorry. We promise it won’t happen again.
Now beat it.
We are truly sorry. We promise it won’t happen again.
Now beat it.
This is much ado about nothing.
Iowa State fans will feed the narrative he picked Iowa State over Iowa; Iowa fans will say Iowa was no longer interested. Who cares. The only thing that we know to be factual for sure is Iowa cancelled his visit.
Regardless, at this point, everything is hypothetical. No one has any idea how any of these recruits will pan out. One marginal 4 star RB will not make or break either program. The fact ISU fans are slobbering all over this thread about JB tells you all you need to know about how irrelevant ISU football has always been. It reminds me of a year or two ago when ISU got a verbal from a kid Alabama happened to have offered. An ISU sports writer crafted this headline: Iowa State 1, Nick Saban 0. The kid ended up decommitting, but that's pretty revealing of their mentality. They grasp at anything to convince themselves their football program matters.
Iowa State fans will feed the narrative he picked Iowa State over Iowa; Iowa fans will say Iowa was no longer interested. Who cares. The only thing that we know to be factual for sure is Iowa cancelled his visit.
Regardless, at this point, everything is hypothetical. No one has any idea how any of these recruits will pan out. One marginal 4 star RB will not make or break either program. The fact ISU fans are slobbering all over this thread about JB tells you all you need to know about how irrelevant ISU football has always been. It reminds me of a year or two ago when ISU got a verbal from a kid Alabama happened to have offered. An ISU sports writer crafted this headline: Iowa State 1, Nick Saban 0. The kid ended up decommitting, but that's pretty revealing of their mentality. They grasp at anything to convince themselves their football program matters.
You have no idea how it went down. The only thing that is factual is Iowa cancelled his visit because they were full at RB.
Most likely they would have been happy with JB or the kid they got from Georgia. First come first served. Had JB been a kid they wanted that badly, stands to reason the visit wouldn't have been cancelled.
Regardless, none of you have any idea what you're talking about. It's all speculation based upon whatever narrative one likes best. The fact you are here going to this great of length to convince fans on an Iowa board of the one you like best speaks volumes for your need to feel validated.
Apparently you missed the boat ... many a Hawkeye board imploded when the Hawks cancelled Brock's visit that was scheduled for June 22nd. The only guy who visited June 22nd who didn't commit is a guy named Tomari Fox ... and most folks anticipated that he will commit to the Hawks sooner or later.
Most Hawks fans were hoping for or anticipating a commitment by Brock on the 22nd. That's why the boards imploded. This all happened well in advance of the 22nd ... just check the board history ... it's very well documented.
The narrative that seemed to emerge from the implosion ... and again this is well documented and all occurred BEFORE June 22nd ... was that some RB had likely committed to the Hawks and with Mekhi Sargent having already joined the program as a JUCO transfer ... consequently the Hawkeye coaches had to cancel Brock's visit.
This has absolutely no negative connotations concerning Brock ... as you've rightly pointed out, he had visited the Hawks many times ... and he liked the Hawks and the Hawks liked him. However, in these sorts of situations ... sometimes "time-pressure" arises and the individual who is willing to make a decision the quickest will land the job/spot.
As for you suggesting that if Brock wanted to be a Hawk, he'd be one already ... there are countless examples of guys who take their recruitment slowly and ultimately choose a given school that they've liked for a long time. You have to remember that many young people view their choice of a school as a huge life-altering decision ... and they're often afraid of making a mistake. The truth is that there are some "bad decisions" out there ... but there are also plenty of "good decisions" too. Anyhow, the gravity of the decision often compels some young people to be very deliberate when making the decision.
Haven’t lived in Iowa since ‘85 but love the Hawks. One thing that drives me crazy about posters here is their jealousy of ISU. Why do you give a F who they sign? Get a life.
You have no freaking clue what you’re talking about. The mod was just posting that someone who once was a top target but no longer had a committable offer committed somewhere else. How is this jealousy? Most here who start ISU threads aren’t really Iowa fans if you go and look at their history it’s mostly negative about Iowa.
Spin...Spin....Spin.....if Brock would have said he want to be a hawk, he would have. I just read the most updated article published today and Brock said he took his time because he wanted to make 100% sure. He claims he did that and is steadfast in his decision. KF and staff didn't want to wait because there was too much risk. They were right because he wasn't coming to Iowa City and down deep Brock knew it.
Maybe? Not sure I don't follow Iowa unless my wife's family tells me something or I see it on here. I just think Randy Pete is trash and I want someone else to cover My Cyclones that is all.
Sorry, I don’t read anything by Chris Williams or Randy Peterson. They are clown hacks. Tom and Blair are first class reporters and I trust they know A LOT more than you or your circle jerk of clone friends. If you can’t let it go though, I’m sure Chris Williams and cytwins will have no problem continuing to fuel your conspiracy theories.
You are waaaay out of your league. You better fly back to clone nation before you get embarrassed further.
Tom and Blair already confirmed that Iowa backed away from Brock. They have 10x more credibility than any clown hacks you follow or read.
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