Joe pardons Hunter
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Well, thank Trump for inventing that rule. He's free to take that one to court but that's going to make it hard for him to give blanket pardons himself if he wins.
And I smh and find your post of zero value because it just make stuff up, ignores facts and is in fantasy land. It's laughably stupid.
There are probably tons of great pardons that nobody hears about. The justice system throws enormous weight at the people and makes it near impossible to overturn a conviction, though it has been shown many times over that wrongful convictions are not uncommon.
Sad it gets used for pardoning family, and Biden just burned the lefts morality card against MAGA, but I can’t say I blame him. It was a political witch hunt and a political pardon. But the gun stuff, again, this looks very hypocritical to push for these laws and then pardon your son for violating them.
90% of the people on here knew Joe was going to pardon Hunter. Many non democrats said they would do the same thing. I know I would have.
The 10% on here who thought Joe wouldn't pardon Hunter are very vocal, and yet will never admit they were wrong.
This is the TLDR of why this is being discussed.
The 10% on here who thought Joe wouldn't pardon Hunter are very vocal, and yet will never admit they were wrong.
This is the TLDR of why this is being discussed.
My god I hope Trump announces on day 1 that he is pardoning all of his family for any crimes they may have committed since 2014. The liberals heads would explode.
Again, pardon the crimes he was convicted on. Doing a blanket pardon looks corrupt as fuk.
I would have pardoned him as well. I’ve said this before on this board, the only reason he was criminally charged with a crime in the first place was because of his dad’s name. People are
Not typically charged with that gun crime. Hundreds of thousands of people lie on that form every year and aren’t charged. If you pay the back taxes you typically aren’t charged, except when it’s egregious.
My only issue is that it pardons all other conduct. Stuff we don’t know about.
For the conservatives who are up in arms over this, do you think it will be different when Trump pardons people convicted of insurrection? Will you be ok with that?
Not typically charged with that gun crime. Hundreds of thousands of people lie on that form every year and aren’t charged. If you pay the back taxes you typically aren’t charged, except when it’s egregious.
My only issue is that it pardons all other conduct. Stuff we don’t know about.
For the conservatives who are up in arms over this, do you think it will be different when Trump pardons people convicted of insurrection? Will you be ok with that?
Liberal Rag Politico would disagree:
We haven’t seen a pardon as sweeping as Hunter Biden’s in generations
“Experts on pardons said they could think of only one other person who has received a presidential pardon so sweeping in generations: Nixon, who was given a blanket pardon by Gerald Ford in 1974.
“I have never seen language like this in a pardon document that purports to pardon offenses that have not apparently even been charged, with the exception of the Nixon pardon,” said Margaret Love, who served from 1990 to 1997 as the U.S. pardon attorney, a Justice Department position devoted to assisting the president on clemency issues.
“Even the broadest Trump pardons were specific as to what was being pardoned,” Love added.”
Really? I don’t recall Trump pardoning or ever having to pardon Baron, Donald Jr, Eric or Ivanka.
Joe gives his son an 11 year sweeping pardon for any and all crimes, even those he hasnt yet been charged with (after saying repeatedly he wouldn't) but apparently its all made up bullshit. Now that's what I call mental illness level denial.
Exactly! MAGA hypocrites howling about this have absolutely no standing to complain about it.
Republicans have spent the last 8 years harassing his family, specifically Hunter while at the same time inventing ways to give blanket pardons, something that is constitutionally dubious at best anyway. Not only does this let them live in peace, if Trump wants to continue the harassment he will have to sabotage one of the ways he was planning on protecting people. If you can't see why someone would do that to get it over with, then that's on you. But at least I'm willing to admit that the possibility exists that you might be right. It is just completely irrelevant as even if he did do the most evil of evil defending Ukraine was the morally correct choice in the first place. Also, after Trump ran the place as his own personal cash register and was neck deep in pay for play favors it just seems kind of small potatoes. We'll see if the Saudis give Hunter $2 billion when Biden is out of office. Then things will start to be comparable.
But hey, if that's not good enough for you and Republicans, Hunter can't plead the 5th now. If you and Republicans want to know the full details then call him to Congress and ask him. There is no reason for him to not come clean.
We all know you'll ignore this, but Trump has said he will try to imprison the Dems and specifically said he would go after Iden and his family. Joe was smart to do this pardon.
"A review of Trump's rally speeches, press conferences, interviews and social media posts shows that the former president has repeatedly indicated that he would use federal law enforcement as part of a campaign to exact "retribution."
Vice President Kamala Harris "should be impeached and prosecuted," Trump said at a rally last month.
"I will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the United States of America, Joe Biden, and the entire Biden crime family," Trump said last year."
How is it possible they forget these things so quickly? What did they do to get the long term memory of a goldfish?
Please tell me you would like to substitute "democrats" as you have suggested, for any of the people he says should be prosecuted.
Is a "democrat" "like you" a radical leftists who brought chaos to an election by chance?
Main caveat I’d add is that I’ll bet joe never thought trump would win - imo he doesn’t do this if he/harris had won.
I don’t like that he did this, but I get it.
The Saudis won't give that family shit bc their influence is now dead forever. The crimes occurred in the decades for which hunter is now absolved of any possible punishment. Him and his family were peddling influence for years. Only those suffering from pure partisan brain rot deny this. It's the core reason for the sweeping pardon.
Not a MAGA or a snowflake, just a middle of the road Independent who voted for the Black, Indian woman because of Trump. Now I realize my mistake, both parties are the same...
Full list of Trump's last-minute pardons and commuted sentences
The list, made public early Wednesday morning, included his former chief strategist and longtime ally Steve Bannon.www.nbcnews.com
Were any of the MAGA snowflakes on here pissed when their guy pardoned all these criminals?
honestly i get why cons would be pissed since joe said he wouldn’t pardon hunter. he should have just said “that’s not something that is on my radar right now.”
that being said i think most democrats are feeling pretty nihilistic about the state of politics in america given the obvious direction that trump’s presidency is going to go and this move is a reflection of that.
that being said i think most democrats are feeling pretty nihilistic about the state of politics in america given the obvious direction that trump’s presidency is going to go and this move is a reflection of that.
You also make my point. Republicans can do 100 things that are shitty. Democrats do 1. Both sides are the same. Unbelievable.
get used to it. that reality will never change
Ok. Time for Republicans to prove these things. There's nothing stopping it now. If this is more egregious than, I don't know, leading a revolt to overthrow an election then have some hearings in Congress. He has to answer the questions.
I agree and disagree. It wasn't a witch hunt. Hunter did the crimes, and more that we don't know about or can't be prosecuted. Biden's own DoJ and other agencies did the investigations.
Any Democrat wanting more gun laws, or claiming the "rich" don't pay their fair share, need to be first in line criticizing this.
Oh, I'm waiting for Joes Place to pop up demanding Hunter sign a confession as a requirement for accepting the pardon. The hypocrisy is overwhelming.
I'd venture a guess Hunter has committed other crimes, like not registering as a foreign agent, money laundering, and tax evasion. At least we can save some D0J and FBI resources not pursuing those potential crimes.
I am...once they ignore arrests and indictments by presidential administration and
STILL try to play the both sides game, there isn't much hope that they will come around.
I think many of the criticisms are valid...sort of. The problem is since nothing was ever done about it when this stuff came up under Trump then that's the playing field we are on now. If you don't like it, you should have thought about these things 5 years ago. But now this is where we are at. Congrats. By allowing Trump to do these types of things it made it ok, and actually expected, for everyone else to do it too. That's the problem with setting precedents. And now, there's nothing stopping Trump from doing it again and you better believe that Congress won't do anything about it either. They'll just complain like they always do.
"Trump, for his part, is expected to harness the pardon power aggressively when he returns to office. Most notably, he has promised to pardon many of the people convicted for their roles in the attack on the Capitol of Jan. 6, 2021. In criticizing the Hunter Biden pardon on Sunday night, Trump again invoked Jan. 6 defendants, calling them “hostages.”"
This is why we need to return to corporal punishment. You can let an offender off the hook with a pardon. But a pardon won't restore a hand that's been cut off or remove the scars from a severe caning.
Not serious . . . and yet....
What does that actually mean to you?
Are you somehow under the misapprehension that the Biden DoJ is populated by Biden-loving liberal lackeys?
Trump: "I will use my office to prosecute and imprison the Democrats including Biden's family."
Biden: "I'll just pardon my family then."
Rs: "Unbelievable. I can believe Joe would stoop so low."
Biden: "I'll just pardon my family then."
Rs: "Unbelievable. I can believe Joe would stoop so low."
And so, a tit-for-tat, useless investigation winds down!
It is about frigging time that Joe stopped letting his own son twist in the wind. This entire episode has been a farce and I am still waiting for someone to show me that the money he received went anywhere but right up his own nose. There has been a ton of innuendo and exaggeration in the media and in the end, Hunter is simply a drug-addled two-bit huckster. (and not even a very talented one!) That is a really competitive field, so I wish him the best.
In case no one has not noticed, no Russian/Ukrainian mobsters appear to have put out a contract on Hunter, so he must have been semi-ethical with those dealings. They do not appear to want him back ... so let him alone to fend for himself.
Joe has sold his soul in becoming a less-than-adequate, third tier president. Abandoning his kid (and the kid's kid) to the media is one of the worst things a grifting president can do. He needed to pardon Hunter long ago.
It is about frigging time that Joe stopped letting his own son twist in the wind. This entire episode has been a farce and I am still waiting for someone to show me that the money he received went anywhere but right up his own nose. There has been a ton of innuendo and exaggeration in the media and in the end, Hunter is simply a drug-addled two-bit huckster. (and not even a very talented one!) That is a really competitive field, so I wish him the best.
In case no one has not noticed, no Russian/Ukrainian mobsters appear to have put out a contract on Hunter, so he must have been semi-ethical with those dealings. They do not appear to want him back ... so let him alone to fend for himself.
Joe has sold his soul in becoming a less-than-adequate, third tier president. Abandoning his kid (and the kid's kid) to the media is one of the worst things a grifting president can do. He needed to pardon Hunter long ago.
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MAGA needs to take a hike on this. At least Joe didn’t appoint him ambassador to France, am I right?!?
Nice to see some Democrat doing something out of the MAGA playbook for a change instead of the “when they go low we go high” BS. Should have done it years ago.
I hope Joe pardons Trump for all the various crimes he has committed too….just to watch MAGA explode on how to handle that one…
Nice to see some Democrat doing something out of the MAGA playbook for a change instead of the “when they go low we go high” BS. Should have done it years ago.
I hope Joe pardons Trump for all the various crimes he has committed too….just to watch MAGA explode on how to handle that one…
What that means is that it's not like Trump or a Republican used any influence over the DOJ to go after Hunter. This was a decision made by his appointee who appointed a special council. This was done fairly and by the book.
This is Joe bailing his crackhead kid out again. Someone who would likely be a bum on the street if his dad wasn't a powerful and wealthy politician.
And that's not to mention that Biden gave him a pardon for an entire 10 year period of time. Which begs the question of if there are other crimes there.
A bunch of posters in this thread are under the misapprehension that the Biden DoJ is populated by Trump-loving MAGA lackeys who prosecuted Hunter for no reason other than to harm Biden’s reelection campaign.
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