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Johnson Digs In Against Border Deal to Unlock Ukraine Aid, Defying Biden

House Republicans want nothing to do with legislation one closing the border while Abbott is getting ready to make a mockery of Biden’s convention in Chicago with all of the Venezuelans he’s dumping there
 
House Republicans need to be able to “point fingers” on this one…..a resolution resulting in new immigration legislation is their worst nightmare.
It's pretty easy to see the dems are trying to put a bunch of Ukraine pork into a bill they desperately need. Still no exit plan for Ukraine.
 
It's pretty easy to see the dems are trying to put a bunch of Ukraine pork into a bill they desperately need. Still no exit plan for Ukraine.
Ever think that's cuz they know getting ANYTHING thru the narrowly-controlled GOP House in an election year will be difficult as hell? So trying to do multiple difficult things is really not a smart move.
 
There’s no reason to have Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan, info pacific, Gaza in the same bill…why not throw the border in!
Mike Johnson could call a vote on any one of those at any time. The Republicans aren't passing *any* of that before November. Biden would benefit by having something to sign, and the claim that government is non-functional is something the GOP has been successfully running on for 40 years.
 
The house already sent an Israel bill that rejected…this is the include everything return volley. That’s why they’ve been negotiating in the senate
The GOP is a disgrace and is playing games with the border, was never serious about bipartisan resolution. It's pathetic you keep saying they are but it works on so many gullible people out there blaming the Democrats. It's the GOP. Period
 
The house passed border and Israel bills that Schumer didn’t bring to a vote.

Weren’t going to get through the D controlled Senate anyway….
Cool. They passed a bill they knew had zero chance of getting through the Dems, because they refused to work with the Dems to create a bill both sides could agree on. Once again, the Rs prove that they aren't serious about this.
 
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Cool. They passed a bill they knew had zero chance of getting through the Dems, because they refused to work with the Dems to create a bill both sides could agree on. Once again, the Rs prove that they aren't serious about this.
o.k.

But look at the post I responded to...
 
To use this analogy, turning off the water would involve stopping people before they leave their home countries. Shutting them off at the border would be the equivalent of clogging the drain.

Allow them to back up into Mexico and every country along the path will start controlling their borders again instead of just selling passage...
 
It has been posted here many times in the past but the people who get their "news" from Fox and like outlets insist on ignoring it - close to a majority of people who are here illegally did not come across the southern border. They came here legally, through the existing visa process and over-stayed their visas.

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"The Border" is small part of the bigger picture and eventual policy that resolves the greater immigration policy. However, most of the people coming across "the border" are brown people and right wing media consumers (mean old white a-holes) by and large hate brown people. Pumping that audience with border grievances is very good for right wing media outlet profits.
 
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There’s no reason to have Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan, info pacific, Gaza in the same bill…why not throw the border in!
Oh yes there is....bins...your are dealing with too many MAGA Republicans...right now Johnson won’t do the right thing and push the bill because MTG has promised to have Johnson removed from his Speakership if he does. And the MAGAs in the House will back MTG....all 15 of them.
 
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Oh yes there is....bins...your are dealing with too many MAGA Republicans...right now Johnson won’t do the right thing and push the bill because MTG has promised to have Johnson removed from his Speakership if he does. And the MAGAs in the House will back MTG....all 15 of them.
Schumer and Biden don't want seperate bills.

 
Schumer and Biden don't want seperate bills.

Your right...they have dealt with the MAGA house before...and neither have forgotten how a small minority of conservative House Republicans pulled the rug on immigration reform after a deal (bipartisan) deal had been bartered back during the Junior Administration. Biden wants a “big deal”....and he’s the President. Apparently the Senate and House Dems find such a deal acceptable, too. It’s just 15-20 Congressmen in the House, who are willing to get rid of their “leader” in order to keep pointing fingers at Biden and the Dems.
 
Your right...they have dealt with the MAGA house before...and neither have forgotten how a small minority of conservative House Republicans pulled the rug on immigration reform after a deal (bipartisan) deal had been bartered back during the Junior Administration. Biden wants a “big deal”....and he’s the President. Apparently the Senate and House Dems find such a deal acceptable, too. It’s just 15-20 Congressmen in the House, who are willing to get rid of their “leader” in order to keep pointing fingers at Biden and the Dems.
Joel...they want an all encompassing bill with or without MAGA.
 
Joel...they want an all encompassing bill with or without MAGA.
Understand...and MTG issued her “challenge” last night...MAGA won’t allow it...and MTG will have Johnson removed from his Speakership if he supports it. Johnson, the courageous politician he is, wants to keep his Speaker position and will do all he can to shit-can this bill. Again...Congress is being stalled and deflated by 12-20 House Republican Congressmen. Meanwhile, Republicans will continue to point the finger at Dems and the American people will not be served by their elected representatives.
 
Getting this from friends and family. The comments indicate the Dems have an enormous messaging problem.

 
If Dems do the border Rs will not do anything Ds want. It's a losing prop. Always has been regardless of side that's why they bundle things together so both get something that they want in a deal.
 
It has been posted here many times in the past but the people who get their "news" from Fox and like outlets insist on ignoring it - close to a majority of people who are here illegally did not come across the southern border. They came here legally, through the existing visa process and over-stayed their visas.

2006

2019

2021

"The Border" is small part of the bigger picture and eventual policy that resolves the greater immigration policy. However, most of the people coming across "the border" are brown people and right wing media consumers (mean old white a-holes) by and large hate brown people. Pumping that audience with border grievances is very good for right wing media outlet profits.

Not sure what your point is,.. Visa's need to be policed as well, nobody would argue otherwise.
 
Does anything in the R bill address visas?

This bill shouldn't be an attempt to provide a total and complete fix to immigration, problem is too complicated,.. This bill needs to quickly address the immediate issue, then we can move on from there...
 
Bigger problem will be getting this administration to actually enforce anything that's agreed to....
 
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This bill shouldn't be an attempt to provide a total and complete fix to immigration, problem is too complicated,.. This bill needs to quickly address the immediate issue, then we can move on from there...
Rs blow off the main driver of illegal immigration?
 
Understand...and MTG issued her “challenge” last night...MAGA won’t allow it...and MTG will have Johnson removed from his Speakership if he supports it. Johnson, the courageous politician he is, wants to keep his Speaker position and will do all he can to shit-can this bill. Again...Congress is being stalled and deflated by 12-20 House Republican Congressmen. Meanwhile, Republicans will continue to point the finger at Dems and the American people will not be served by their elected representatives.
Yep…controlled by the radical right…something the “squad” can’t do to the Democrats.
 
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