Josh Dix
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As long as it doesn't impact his quickness, but he is not weak. How many times did he get taken to the basket by another guard. Not many, and those were more a matter of not getting into position to cut off the drive. Illannoy respects him, because last year he guarded Shannon, and did not give up a single drive to the basket. A couple of other Illannoy players also tried to take him to the hole, and got blocked.
I don't think Stirtz as any stronger than Josh, and probably not as strong. That is the comment I objected to. Dix and Stirtz won't be asked to play power forward.
I appreciate the “info” too, but still don’t believe that McCollum made Dix workout for him. Rather, I could believe they perhaps watched some film together and discussed playing style(s), etc
I can see Dix transferring to Kansas because he knows, of the schools he is considering, that they have the best chance of going to a Final Four. Creighton is also a good program and close to home. I can’t imagine a Hawkeye ever transferring to Illinois. Indiana is a full rebuild like Iowa but without an all American caliber point guard to build around.
Yes it will.
I'm talking more about why Josh might not take to Ben's offensive system/philosophy.
If Josh goes to Creighton, the whole rest of the team being pissed about him shutting it down message, would seem questionable. It is closer to home, if his mom is still having health issues.
I detest both Kansas and Illannoy, but would really hate it if Josh went to Illannoy. I don't trust any of the NIL$$$ stuff being tossed around. I just hope Iowa can give him a respectable offer. I know BMc has a pretty good idea what Josh could bring to his system.
I made my comment that Stirtz looked stronger from the perspective of an experienced weight lifter and I stand by it. He meets the eye test without having to look like a power forward. Ben McCollum mentioned strength and conditioning twice in his press conference specifically in regards to his Enforce Your Will philosophy.
In the bigger picture I get a very strong vibe that Josh doesn't embrace the culture Ben wants to instill in the program. Ben wants not only a skill set but also the proper mindset to play the way he wants to. I hope to get surprised but just not feeling it as far as Josh staying here.
He’d be crazy not to play for McCollum. Will it be demanding and a culture shock for him? Yup, but Dix will be better for it.
Because as a freshman Kris wasn’t very good. All the revisionist history in the world isn’t going to change that fact. He worked hard and got better.
Agreed. I believe @ItsAllBallBearingsNowadays reported the information accurately, at least as it was reported to him. But I suspect the information might have been embellished a bit somewhere along the way. After all, supposedly this was something Dix said to another player, who said something to the “source,” who said something to @ItsAllBallBearingsNowadays. Lots of opportunities for wires to get crossed.
Also, I think it’s worth considering that if any of the individuals in this information flow are connected to the QC boys, those guys might have a motivation to justify their decisions to leave without looking back.
With all that said, I still appreciate the info. None of us are journalists on here, so we’re just trying to piece together what’s going on as best as we can. At the end of the day, it’s just a message board. You’ve got to take everything with a grain of salt, and you are certainly free to believe or dismiss anything you want to.
Where are you getting the very strong vibe that Josh doesn't embrace the BMc culture, when that already is how he plays the game? That and your Stirtz looking stronger position just seems totally out of whack with what I have seen, especially after watching Dix play for the past two years.
That’s a pretty weak argument to be making considering pat was never very good lol
Taking visits to rival Big Ten programs tells me he hasn't bought in yet. I liked the way Koch handled things. He put his name in the portal to keep his options open and then after spending time with Coach realized he likes the vision set for the program and withdrew his name.
On the strength issue I thought Drake as a whole looked like a physical basketball team. Ben talked about toughness and his Drake team I thought reflected that. We can agree or disagree on whether we think Josh fits into that. Bottom line he has to want to play more physically if he chooses to stay a Hawk.
IMHO Josh is looking for the biggest check. No matter where that leads him. It’s about money. Not bagging on him just saying that is what it feels like. The close to home thing was something he should have not brought up unless he was serious.
You picked three. I’m talking all of them. Turnovers are one of the most misunderstood stats out there.
But thanks for actually comparing the two people being discussed and in the same sport.
So you’re saying Jbo had more contested shots than Brock when he was playing with garza 2 Murray’s and Joe w. lol. You implied you watch the games.
I think it’s safe to say he could have done exactly that last year, and stayed ant Iowa for less money. Probably not the guy to point the finger at about greed. Maybe he will take the most money, but the evidence we actually have suggests that’s not the only thing he cares about.
Speaking of evidence. How the hell do we know he said he wanted to be closer to home? That is literally nothing more than a rumor from this board because his mom was sick.
Seriously Packer, that was just an abomination of a post you made.
I'd expect Pryce to visit Indiana with his connection there with the DeVries.
Correct. Rank on Fran for performance and style of play, but even WITH portal, he didn't have annual exodus like Lick did.
Absolutely JBo took more contested shots from three than BH. Brock was typically wide open due to defenders chasing Josh & Payton. He was open because he was an afterthought on everyone's defensive scheme against Iowa. Every team said make BH beat us from three. And they always said opposite with JBo, don't let JBo beat us from three.
Respectively, my thoughts on Josh Dix and his value as a Hawkeye couldn’t be more opposite than yours. He moves so well without the ball and has a mid-range game/shot which is almost non-existent in modern college basketball. He is also a willing defender and played hurt some of this year. Lastly, he would be a link to the “former” Hawkeye team and be a fan favorite. It might be kind of hard for some fans (particularly if Iowa’s not winning big next year) to accept a team full of former Drake players? 🥴
is it possible dix wanted a lot more $ than what bm deemed him worth (based on film)? so perhaps bm setup a workout like pro teams do to assess his worth. maybe post workout bm offered dix far less than asking. if so i could imagine the scenario playing out as described
Well, besides Dix, he originally left Sandfort, Koch, and a very athletic Traore. Freeman was apparently leaving regardless of who Iowa’s next coach was. Fran also left a top 50 recruit (Joshua Lewis) and three other decent incoming recruits. They may all be leaving? I would hope they would keep the portal kid (Johnson) who has some prior college experience at Miami and was a good high school player in Minnesota.
No problem. Friendly difference of opinion.
I won't be unhappy if he returns and I won't be disappointed if he moves on elsewhere for the money. Either way works for me.
At that point in time, he was better than Kris. Most people on this board thought Kris was a waste of a scholarship and only here because of Keegan. Argue that all you want.
Exactly…to compare midget Brock Harding’s game to JBo’s game is an insult to JBo.
Don't disagree on the Drake toughness, and I look forward to having an Iowa team that plays both ends of the court. I'm surprised you haven't seen that Josh's game is already exactly how BMc wants to play--value the ball, take good shots, play strong defense. What is it that you think Josh does that isn't a fit. Don't get him confused with the rest of the team.
If Josh is really getting offers near $2M, which seems incredible to me, why wouldn't Josh see what is available? Remember he didn't go for the money last year. I have no idea what is being offered or how much Iowa can offer, but I really believe that Josh has a good chance of coming back if Iowa can give him a high 6-figure offer. Getting Pryce to say quickly that he will be back wouldn't hurt. If Josh goes to Creighton, then he is following what he has said about getting closer to his family (his mom).
I didn't "pick three". I used the exact same three stats you used to compare Brock to JBo. You didn't talk about "all of them".
This is all a fair assessment of the information.
I keep envisioning Stirtz & Dix operating at a high level around the perimeter - pick & roll with a kick out to either/or, hitting midrange at will, and finding what we hope are some big, athletic forwards down low.
That being said, I believe Dix is pretty torn right now & making sure he finds the right fit. I don’t think the money is as big as some think for Josh, but more of what program will lead him to alot of wins & beyond.
I’m 60/40 on him leaving vs. staying.
That being said, I believe Dix is pretty torn right now & making sure he finds the right fit. I don’t think the money is as big as some think for Josh, but more of what program will lead him to alot of wins & beyond.
I’m 60/40 on him leaving vs. staying.
You have misread me regarding Josh. I specifically said in one post that Josh would fit. Ben didn't mention him as one of the players he wants to return for no reason. He has to buy into the culture Ben wants to establish. He either likes what he sees or he doesn't. Just like he wants to get closer to home for his mom or he doesn't. Life comes down to the choices you make and how you handle yourself in the big moments.
In what way was he better? There’s these other parts of the game that i know don’t get talked about much, especially when fran was coach, they’re called defense and rebounding. Idc what year it was, kris>pat at both those.
Pat played 15mpg kris’s frosh yr and avg 5ppg, and 2.7rpg…ive a hard time believing kris couldn’t have put up those numbers if given the same 15mpg.
Kris’s 2nd yr he still only played 17mpg but avg just under 10ppg and 4.3 rpg. Pat played 24mpg with 10ppg and 3.6rpg.
Other than minutes played there’s nothing to suggest pat was better than kris at any point
Someone said that Dix wrote "True hero" or something on Cooper Koch's announcement that he was returning. I like JD's game but unfortunately, I don't see him coming back to Iowa. That response doesn't give me warm and fuzzy vibes.
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