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Kade Blume

OK - I'm done here. Do you think for one second the school district wants this kind of publicity? They are without question being advised to do what they are doing as a school district is viewed as a "deep pocket" because of its revenue base. What you are comparing this to is just not the same thing. Let's say the school district expelled him and the case goes to criminal court and it is ruled the school district did not act correctly and the case gets thrown out. How do you think you would feel? Pissed at the school district for acting incorrectly? More than likely.

I didn't wrestle in college so I keep my opinions on certain things to myself. I don't call average D-1 wrestlers garbage like I often read on here. Why, because if I can't or didn't and I don't feel like I should comment. I'm simply a long time fan.

You say you're done then go on to ask more questions. You should have said I'm dumb here.
 
OK - I'm done here. Do you think for one second the school district wants this kind of publicity? They are without question being advised to do what they are doing as a school district is viewed as a "deep pocket" because of its revenue base. What you are comparing this to is just not the same thing. Let's say the school district expelled him and the case goes to criminal court and it is ruled the school district did not act correctly and the case gets thrown out. How do you think you would feel? Pissed at the school district for acting incorrectly? More than likely.

I didn't wrestle in college so I keep my opinions on certain things to myself. I don't call average D-1 wrestlers garbage like I often read on here. Why, because if I can't or didn't and I don't feel like I should comment. I'm simply a long time fan.
The case isn't going to criminal trial. The case isn't getting thrown out. HE PLED GUILTY as a way to avoid more harsh punishment that would have come if he were tried as an adult.
 
We don’t have trials after guilty pleas, dum a$$. Stop with your semantic tight rope walk.
Hey dumb a$$ - you might want to actually learn how the pleas were changed. Let those who actually know what they are doing do their job.
You say you're done then go on to ask more questions. You should have said I'm dumb here.
Nah - I have a hard time backing off when the ignorant chime in.
 
No, I'm just a regular schlub who thinks that if a HS wrestler pleads guilty to criminal charges of sodomizing a fellow student with a pencil, that should be enough for school leaders to sit him out. Hell in our kid's HS if a student gets an 'F' in any one class they aren't allowed to participate in extracurriculars the next semester. That's just for flunking a class.
Sounds like you're too much of a liberal and may be wasting time posting tripe on this board. 😉
 
Hey dumb a$$ - you might want to actually learn how the pleas were changed. Let those who actually know what they are doing do their job.

Nah - I have a hard time backing off when the ignorant chime in.

It's sad you're so dumb you can't even see what your saying.
 
We don’t have trials after guilty pleas, dum a$$. Stop with your semantic tight rope walk.
But you do have sentencing. And are you bright enough to understand that the very earliest a school Board can act on something like this would be a minimum of 48 hours after. The minimum. So you say semantics, I say laws and facts. I get that is hard to wrap your head around but you keep being you.
 
But you do have sentencing. And are you bright enough to understand that the very earliest a school Board can act on something like this would be a minimum of 48 hours after. The minimum. So you say semantics, I say laws and facts. I get that is hard to wrap your head around but you keep being you.
It doesn’t matter. The criminal charge adjudication is separate from school policy procedures. Your son pled guilty to raping a person with a foreign object. That’s formal enough for me.
 
Hey dumb a$$ - you might want to actually learn how the pleas were changed. Let those who actually know what they are doing do their job.

Nah - I have a hard time backing off when the ignorant chime in.
No he was right. You're a dumba$$. Maybe this will help. There was a plea hearing. It went like this:
These are the charges they have brought on you. How do you plead?
Blume: "Guilty."
Maybe there was a deal where you plead guilty you get aggravated assault and not sexual assault, or rape. Nobody cares. He plead guilty.
 
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They are without question being advised to do what they are doing as a school district is viewed as a "deep pocket" because of its revenue base.
Without question, that's some Twilight Zone stuff, right there.
Let's say the school district expelled him and the case goes to criminal court and it is ruled the school district did not act correctly and the case gets thrown out. How do you think you would feel?
Great, in that they appropriately appllied expectations in the Roland-Story Student Handbook that delineates potential ineligibility in its Student Conduct section.

And if that section of the Student Handbook was somehow a legal overreach (although I don't know how it could be), then it might spur lawmakers and the IHSAA into corrective action. That should eliminate any future potential hand wringing of any backroom lawyers or advisors to board members.
 
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Everything here is an opinion. The courts and school district have the facts. I will let the people with the facts decide.
 
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Perhaps the opposing teams should not field a wrestler at his weight. Give Blume the forfeit rather than let him compete until clear direction/decision by the school board/superintendent. Dont give the guy a platform until things are cleared up.
I like that. Bad behavior should have consequences.
 
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Everything here is an opinion.
Not quite. Facts include:
  • Incident occurred New Years.
  • Victim transferred.
  • Roland-Story Student Handbook includes a Code of Conduct with ineligibility that could (and appears to have been) applied
  • School District discipline was 3 meet suspension.
  • Assailant subsequently wrestled for school.
  • Community parents expressed outrage, and some claimed first hand knowledge of systemic issues in Roland-Story district.
  • Assailant pled guilty.
I will let the people with the facts decide.
Really? You'll let them?
 
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So - you're saying liberals believe in the law but conservatives don't? Makes so much sense. Pretty sure liberals views are heavily weighed on emotions and those don't always align with the law. But again, far be it from me to provide some basic procedures that have to be followed.
 
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liberals views are heavily weighed on emotions and those don't always align with the law
I think you are using a connotation devised by liberal antagonists.

Liberal derived from liberty, as in the protection of individual liberties, including the elimination of unjust laws or inequal treatment under the law.
 
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I don't know. That could be risky. Better consult the advisors and lawyers. Don't want to negatively affect the cash cow that is the Roland-Story district. :rolleyes:
You're right - judgement needs to be made now because I demand it so! And if you don't think the school district is considered, as you say it with a rolling eyes emoji, a cash cow, then you're pretty dim. Was that better? Did I catch what you're throwing?

But seriously, what does the school have to gain by allowing this person to wrestle? I honestly don't understand why it would take on this degree of criticism if it was not strongly advised to do so. Fair enough? Maybe someone with not an axe to grind with the school can respond.
 
I think you using a connotation devised by liberal antagonists.

Liberal derived from liberty, as in the protection of individual liberties, including the elimination of unjust laws or inequal treatment under the law.
Well again - I'm not a liberal but I do understand how and why a public body must protect itself. And some times that takes a little more time than the general public thinks it should. Blame the law(s), not the body that has to follow them. Because there are plenty of liberal lawyers who will jump all over them;)
 
Well again - I'm not a liberal but I do understand how and why a public body must protect itself. And some times that takes a little more time than the general public thinks it should. Blame the law(s), not the body that has to follow them. Because there are plenty of liberal lawyers who will jump all over them;)
Thought you said you were done here 7 messages ago.
 
I honestly don't understand why it would take on this degree of criticism if it was not strongly advised to do so. Fair enough?
They are elected officials and the president and vice president seem to be local businessman, who are not educational professionals. According to the board member who retired, the two board executives decided things behind close doors without seeking broader board input.

I will go with Occam's Razor, and choose to believe it was incompetence over some vast conspiracy. I just don't believe the board president tried to sweep things under the rug for fear of a mass exodus from the district negatively affecting the family funeral business.

My expectation is that eventually they will resign, not seek reelection, or get voted out. I'd think it would be very easy to run a successful campaign against them.
 
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Not quite. Facts include:
  • Incident occurred New Years.
  • Victim transferred.
  • Roland-Story Student Handbook includes a Code of Conduct with ineligibility that could (and appears to have been) applied
  • School District discipline was 3 meet suspension.
  • Assailant subsequently wrestled for school.
  • Community parents expressed outrage, and some claimed first hand knowledge of systemic issues in Roland-Story district.
  • Assailant pled guilty.

Really? You'll let them?
I think they decided the school district shit the bed. And the perps’s family seems to be the only party wishing to cover that fact up.
 
Lets hypothetically say that the school district is waiting for the final sentencing to be made by the courts before they impose more punishment at school or for sports. Don't think that the family hasn't already been told that and will have their lawyer get continuances on the sentencing until after wrestling season is over. Then I would say the school would impose a punishment at school for probably spring / summer and possibly fall sports. Then would be eligible for wrestling next year as well.
 
He "pled" guilty - OK. Has there been a formal announcement on any criminal charges and final judgement? Has there been a formal hearing, how about an actual trial? A public body handing down punishment before final rulings have been made is not real bright.
You've clearly never seen an episode of Law & Order.
If you order now you can get it before Xmas. I'm on season 15 and have learned a lot.

 
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You will know for sure if and when the district's attorney resigns.
Why?

Contrition and possibly some form of restitution by a 16 year old, at the time, might be enough to consider a plea to move the case from adult to juvenile court--especially considering a second assailant was destined for juvenile court from the get go.

So far I haven't read the plea includes a change to charges (e.g. felony assault to misdemeanor hazing). Has it? If that's the case, then maybe the district attorney will find himself in a political quagmire.

The current details of any prosecution at this time aren't relevant to the school board past activities. Sure, earlier on they might have inquired about the potential prosecution. But normally police don't comment on an ongoing investigation, so what would they be waiting for. And they took the 3 week suspension action based on the information they had. Now (or shortly) it seems they will have more, and an opportunity to take further action.
 
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