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If anyone thinks that the administration is not following the advice of the their legal counsel they are just plain wrong. In my opinion, of course. In this day and age of sue everyone, I can guarantee every step is calculated through advice they are paying $300+ per hour to get. It's not a message board where immediate opinions and stances are taken and if you are wrong, no big deal. If I am wrong with my assumption, then the school district/administration deserves everything that is coming to them.
Strictly a guess but I think that they originally probably had an old school closed door type of meeting and made some initial decisions that the legal team is attempting to cover for now.
As far as legal counsel goes Barta was following legal counsel advice on the lost lawsuit with Meyer/Griessbaum.
The person who finishes last in law school.......is still probably a lawyer.
 
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Strictly a guess but I think that they originally probably had an old school closed door type of meeting and made some initial decisions that the legal team is attempting to cover for now.
As far as legal counsel goes Barta was following legal counsel advice on the lost lawsuit with Meyer/Griessbaum.
The person who finishes last in law school.......is still probably a lawyer.
Very possible - but pending litigation is an acceptable "closed door" type action. It all depends how and if you provide proper notice, record, and report.
 
And per recent trends, ISU wrestling fans making light of the situation and joking that Iowa will be calling him to offer. Zero shame.
To be fair Gonzo it was one guy who did that yesterday. And he caught hell from posters for it.
 
He's living in Ames and attempting to do the Paniro Johnson. Sit out a year, then go to ISU. Heard a story that he and Swiderski got into it at a Cyclone event up in Okobiji. Evidently Swiderski kicked his ass in practice and it spilled over after practice with fists flying. Seems like a great future teammate to me😂
Umm, no
 
If anyone thinks that the administration is not following the advice of the their legal counsel they are just plain wrong. In my opinion, of course. In this day and age of sue everyone, I can guarantee every step is calculated through advice they are paying $300+ per hour to get. It's not a message board where immediate opinions and stances are taken and if you are wrong, no big deal. If I am wrong with my assumption, then the school district/administration deserves everything that is coming to them.
What could the school possibly get sued for? For not allowing a kid to wrestle who admitted to raping a fellow student? What are the damages?

Not a lawyer, but I would take my chances w/ the suspension versus this mess.
 
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What could the school possibly get sued for? For not allowing a kid to wrestle who admitted to raping a fellow student? What are the damages?

Not a lawyer, but I would take my chances w/ the suspension versus this mess.
Due process, for one. Even the guilty are allowed that in our country. Otherwise defense attorneys wouldn't be the wealthy ones. And by the way, I'm hardly a political liberal. But public bodies need to follow very specific laws regarding their actions. The desired result(s) does not always come in the term of time the mob demands.
 
Due process, for one. Even the guilty are allowed that in our country. Otherwise defense attorneys wouldn't be the wealthy ones. And by the way, I'm hardly a political liberal. But public bodies need to follow very specific laws regarding their actions. The desired result(s) does not always come in the term of time the mob demands.
Well, sounds like you have some legal acumen. Hard to believe their code of conduct could not be updated and retroactive
 
I am not really a 'blow it up nationally' type for the most part. Unfortunately there was a window of opportunity to do what most would consider the 'right' thing to do and they missed it. I think they would prefer to have the one board member resign, let this issue fade to yesterdays news and go on with life. This case(victim) deserves more than that and it needs to be escalated.
Can the escalating be done without the press? I think you use the press to a point. So far it’s been fine just don’t become a national news circus.
 
Well, sounds like you have some legal acumen. Hard to believe their code of conduct could not be updated and retroactive
Plenty of experience in public administration. The laws that have to be followed in order to be transparent are extensive. Quite frankly this is often where Boards, especially at the local levels, can get themselves into real problems. Without knowing all of the specifics, it is generally best to take your time and get it right. As far as the Superintendent, if he does not follow what the Board says to do, which should be at the advice of their attorney, he won't be employed for very long.
 
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Plenty of experience in public administration. The laws that have to be followed in order to be transparent are extensive. Quite frankly this is often where Boards, especially at the local levels, can get themselves into real problems. Without knowing all of the specifics, it is generally best to take your time and get it right. As far as the Superintendent, if he does not follow what the Board says to do, which should be at the advice of their attorney, he won't be employed for very long.
How does this thread still have oxygen? Go to some liberal website for this kind of tripe.
 
I believe he beat up his girlfriend or wife. Don’t quote me but I believe I read that 🤷‍♂️
Felonious assault on his wife. Beat the sh*t out of her and then choked her unconscious.

 
Can the escalating be done without the press? I think you use the press to a point. So far it’s been fine just don’t become a national news circus.
Can it? Perhaps. We can disagree that ‘so far it’s been fine’
The guy just won a tournament this past weekend. Shouldn’t be happening.
 
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Can it? Perhaps. We can disagree that ‘so far it’s been fine’
The guy just won a tournament this past weekend. Shouldn’t be happening.
I was referring to the press coverage being just fine so far and not a circus.

Based on the info I’m hearing in the cesspool and elsewhere I agree, he shouldn’t be out there winning tournaments.
 
Again - I'm not a liberal by any stretch of the imagination and sorry to maybe discuss and give some information that is just a bit above your preferred level of ignorance
Plenty of experience in public administration. The laws that have to be followed in order to be transparent are extensive. Quite frankly this is often where Boards, especially at the local levels, can get themselves into real problems. Without knowing all of the specifics, it is generally best to take your time and get it right. As far as the Superintendent, if he does not follow what the Board says to do, which should be at the advice of their attorney, he won't be employed for very long.
While I can appreciate where you’re coming from, it appears to me that you may be confusing a privilege with a right. Inter scholastic sports are a privilege almost exclusive to the United States. Definitely not a right defended by laws. Hell, Iowa is a right to work state and you can be fired without cause.
A school has full authority to deny an athlete the PRIVILEGE to represent their school and their state…
 
Hasn't the kid pled guilty in order to get the case bumped down to juvie? That guilty plea would seem plenty of legal justification to deny this kid his season.
Until the final judgement has been made, by an actual judge and not public opinion, the case is not closed. I'm not sure why this is so hard to comprehend. When that is done, I would like to think the appropriate punishment will be handed down by the school district. Appears to be a lot of pitchforks and torches in this crowd. Now if I was the kid's parent, I would impose my own verdict and there is no chance he would be wrestling. Maybe look in that direction for your frustration about this all.
 
Until the final judgement has been made, by an actual judge and not public opinion, the case is not closed. I'm not sure why this is so hard to comprehend. When that is done, I would like to think the appropriate punishment will be handed down by the school district. Appears to be a lot of pitchforks and torches in this crowd. Now if I was the kid's parent, I would impose my own verdict and there is no chance he would be wrestling. Maybe look in that direction for your frustration about this all.
He pled guilty to a specific charge in juvenile court. That's not public opinion. That's the kid saying "yes I am guilty of this crime." That should be enough for a school district to take its own action in terms of punishment.
 
Until the final judgement has been made, by an actual judge and not public opinion, the case is not closed. I'm not sure why this is so hard to comprehend. When that is done, I would like to think the appropriate punishment will be handed down by the school district. Appears to be a lot of pitchforks and torches in this crowd. Now if I was the kid's parent, I would impose my own verdict and there is no chance he would be wrestling. Maybe look in that direction for your frustration about this all.
Guilty wasn’t clear enough?
 
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He pled guilty to a specific charge in juvenile court. That's not public opinion. That's the kid saying "yes I am guilty of this crime." That should be enough for a school district to take its own action in terms of punishment.
He "pled" guilty - OK. Has there been a formal announcement on any criminal charges and final judgement? Has there been a formal hearing, how about an actual trial? A public body handing down punishment before final rulings have been made is not real bright.
 
He "pled" guilty - OK. Has there been a formal announcement on any criminal charges and final judgement? Has there been a formal hearing, how about an actual trial? A public body handing down punishment before final rulings have been made is not real bright.
Yeah I'm no lawyer but I'm pretty sure that when someone pleads guilty to criminal charges that pretty much negates the need for a subsequent trial or hearing. And yes, I'm pretty sure there would have had to have been "a formal announcement on any criminal charges" in order for the kid to plead guilty in the first place, unless you think it's normal for people to plead guilty to crimes they haven't been charged with.
 
It may be that the only justice in this case will come from the fact that it has been reported in the press and that will serve as a de facto sex offender registry.
Blume will never be able to get away from this incident.
 
Yeah I'm no lawyer but I'm pretty sure that when someone pleads guilty to criminal charges that pretty much negates the need for a subsequent trial or hearing. And yes, I'm pretty sure there would have had to have been "a formal announcement on any criminal charges" in order for the kid to plead guilty in the first place, unless you think it's normal for people to plead guilty to crimes they haven't been charged with.
So you're not a lawyer. Are you an administrator of any form of public body that has to deal with very specific laws? Are you a Board Member of any such public body? If you're not, you're just giving an opinion of what you think should be done. You're right to do so, but it doesn't mean you're right.
 
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So you're not a lawyer. Are you an administrator of any form of public body that has to deal with very specific laws? Are you a Board Member of any such public body? If you're not, you're just giving an opinion of what you think should be done. You're right to do so, but it doesn't mean you're right.
No, I'm just a regular schlub who thinks that if a HS wrestler pleads guilty to criminal charges of sodomizing a fellow student with a pencil, that should be enough for school leaders to sit him out. Hell in our kid's HS if a student gets an 'F' in any one class they aren't allowed to participate in extracurriculars the next semester. That's just for flunking a class.
 
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So you're not a lawyer. Are you an administrator of any form of public body that has to deal with very specific laws? Are you a Board Member of any such public body? If you're not, you're just giving an opinion of what you think should be done. You're right to do so, but it doesn't mean you're right.
OK - so what you are saying he has plead guilty but the final aspect will be when the judge actually sentences him?
 
He "pled" guilty - OK. Has there been a formal announcement on any criminal charges and final judgement? Has there been a formal hearing, how about an actual trial? A public body handing down punishment before final rulings have been made is not real bright.
We don’t have trials after guilty pleas, dum a$$. Stop with your semantic tight rope walk.
 
No, I'm just a regular schlub who thinks that if a HS wrestler pleads guilty to criminal charges of sodomizing a fellow student with a pencil, that should be enough for school leaders to sit him out. Hell in our kid's HS if a student gets an 'F' in any one class they aren't allowed to participate in extracurriculars the next semester. That's just for flunking a class.
OK - I'm done here. Do you think for one second the school district wants this kind of publicity? They are without question being advised to do what they are doing as a school district is viewed as a "deep pocket" because of its revenue base. What you are comparing this to is just not the same thing. Let's say the school district expelled him and the case goes to criminal court and it is ruled the school district did not act correctly and the case gets thrown out. How do you think you would feel? Pissed at the school district for acting incorrectly? More than likely.

I didn't wrestle in college so I keep my opinions on certain things to myself. I don't call average D-1 wrestlers garbage like I often read on here. Why, because if I can't or didn't and I don't feel like I should comment. I'm simply a long time fan.
 
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So you're not a lawyer. Are you an administrator of any form of public body that has to deal with very specific laws? Are you a Board Member of any such public body? If you're not, you're just giving an opinion of what you think should be done. You're right to do so, but it doesn't mean you're right.

You have comprehension issues. What is so hard to understand about him pleading guilty??
 
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