Kim Reynolds introduces bill defining 'man' and 'woman,' opponents brand it 'LGBTQ erasure'

[EvolutionDenier]

I am fully convinced if a trans woman like this went into a mens bathroom, went up to the urinal next to the one KFs or EDs son was pissing at, they would lose their shit when they have to explain that to their kid

"Yeah, son. That was a dude who thinks he can opt-in to being a broad. They're mentally ill and, probably, generally harmless. They ought to be able to dress however they like, but they're still dudes. You cannot self-ID into a sex. Sex is an immutable characteristic. Immutable? It means 'unchangeable.' Just be glad he's hangin' dong at the trough in here instead of prowling the ladies' room."

 

[auntie_fah]

"Yeah, son. That was a dude who thinks he can opt-in to being a broad. They're mentally ill and, probably, generally harmless. They ought to be able to dress however they like, but they're still dudes. You cannot self-ID into a sex. Sex is an immutable characteristic. Immutable? It means 'unchangeable.' Just be glad he's hangin' dong at the trough in here instead of prowling the ladies' room."

Get pissed when you are explaining to your kid why theres someone in the mens room with a nice rack, long hair, fit body, and make up pissing next to them.

Did you got trapped once and are still having a hard time processing your feelings about it?

Die mad, homey.

 

[EvolutionDenier]

Get pissed when you are explaining to your kid why theres someone in the mens room with a rack, long hair, fit body, and make up pissing next to them.

Did you got trapped once and are still having a hard time processing your feelings about it?

Die mad, homey.

I just indicated how I would respond. It's a mentally unwell dude. Humans are incapable of changing sex.

"Did you got trapped once?" Where did you learn ESL? Are you indicating male troons are typically predators by saying "got trapped?" Again, why are all of these middle-aged shlubs on a message board revolving around 20-year-old athletes sooooo interested in defending the mental illness of dudez who get off on intimidating women?

Why are supposedly "progressive" folx so interested in entrenching stereotypes of dress and that dressing/acting a certain way means you're a man or woman? My dyke HS gym teacher wore flannel and had a mustache at the corners of her mouth. That didn't make her a man. She was a broad who liked pussy.

 

[auntie_fah]

I just indicated how I would respond. It's a mentally unwell dude. Humans are incapable of changing sex.

"Did you got trapped once?" Where did you learn ESL? Are you indicating male troons are typically predators by saying "got trapped?" Again, why are all of these middle-aged shlubs on a message board revolving around 20-year-old athletes sooooo interested in defending the mental illness of dudez who get off on intimidating women?

Why are supposedly "progressive" folx so interested in entrenching stereotypes of dress and that dressing/acting a certain way means you're a man or woman? My dyke HS gym teacher wore flannel and had a mustache at the corners of her mouth. That didn't make her a man. She was a broad who liked pussy.

Sorry you got trapped by a trans woman once and can’t process your emotions around you secretly enjoying it

Die mad.

 

[EasyHawk]

I bet they have used a restroom with a trans person and didnt know it at least once in their life.

What happened to that one dude that posted that he stands outside the women’s restroom in public place while his wife goes so he can scan for potential trans that are going in, prepared to through roundhouse la at them?

 

[EvolutionDenier]

Sorry you got trapped by a trans woman once and can’t process your emotions around you secretly enjoying it

Die mad.

The defense of looney troons is "die mad" homophobia.

Fitting.

 

[KFsdisciple]

They're not working on behalf of Iowa's. They are working against Iowans. Replace trans with black people and you can begin to understand how discrimatory these laws are.

People don't choose their race, except Michael jackson

 

[KFsdisciple]

How can trans people be banned from using the bathrooms of their new sex? How is this a protective feature? If I'm a trans man, I can look every inch a man, but by law I have to use the women's bathroom? How does this improve things? Won't they balk at this, too?

I think we can build you separate but equal facilities

 

[Titanhawk2]

Muddies the legal system a lot. She's just playing the DeSantis playbook right now.

And letting men "become" women mostly to be legally recognized as such, doesn't muddle the legal system?

 

[EvolutionDenier]

And letting men "become" women mostly to be legally recognized as such, doesn't muddle the legal system?

They were ALWAYS WOMEN!

Don't you see the Emperor's beautiful new clothes?!

 

[lucas80]

How many people do you think are born "intersex" in Iowa?

"Here’s what we do know: If you ask experts at medical centers how often a child is born so noticeably atypical in terms of genitalia that a specialist in sex differentiation is called in, the number comes out to about 1 in 1500 to 1 in 2000 births." According to the Intersex Society of North America


Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births
Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births
Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births
Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births
Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births
Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals
Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births
Ovotestes one in 83,000 births
Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births
Iatrogenic (caused by medical treatment, for instance progestin administered to pregnant mother) no estimate
5 alpha reductase deficiency no estimate
Mixed gonadal dysgenesis no estimate
Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births

Depending how loosely you want to use the term "intersex" we could be talking anywhere from a handful to maybe a couple thousand people

So, if you are saying it isn't really a big deal, then why is it such a big deal for you to mislabel people?

 

[lucas80]

what’s your non marginalizing definition of male and female?

The bill says this…
The bill defines a “female” as a person whose biological reproductive system is developed to produce ova and a “male” as a person whose biological reproductive system is developed to fertilize the ova of a female.

What would you add or remove from that definition?

Do you know any trans citizens?

 

[lucas80]

I bet they have used a restroom with a trans person and didnt know it at least once in their life.

Poor KF, Abby and Bins. This is probably why they are so activated. They know they totally came really close to being turned by a trans citizen walking into a bathroom and performing a bodily function. It makes them shudder in fear.

 

[lucas80]

I don’t believe education on the topic is a winner for those who believe people should be allowed to decide their own sex for purposes of sports or other things that are reserved for a specific sex. Richard Dawkins is pretty damn educated on biology and disagrees with that notion.

Do you know any trans citizens, and do you consider yourself well educated on the subject, and the science involved?

 

[EvolutionDenier]

Do you know any trans citizens, and do you consider yourself well educated on the subject, and the science involved?

DO TELL on "the science involved!" Rope in @BelemNole on this one if you need a SciAm opinion article.

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

What color panties are you wearing under your skirt today?

Someone sounds horny? 😵

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

Do you know any trans citizens, and do you consider yourself well educated on the subject, and the science involved?

No such thing as a “trans citizen.”

 

[SocraticIshmael]

So, if you are saying it isn't really a big deal, then why is it such a big deal for you to mislabel people?

Because he thinks bigotry is cool.

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

The bill says that if a person is issued a new birth certificate, driver’s license or non-operator’s ID card following a sex-change operation, the new document will list the person’s sex at birth and their sex following the operation.

That DNA is a pesky detail to get around though!🤕💩

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Do you know any trans citizens?

You didn’t answer my question but I’ll answer yours.
Yes

 

[Huey Grey]

You didn’t answer my question but I’ll answer yours.
Yes

You must not respect them then.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

You must not respect them then.

How so?

 

[EvolutionDenier]

How so?

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Poor KF, Abby and Bins. This is probably why they are so activated. They know they totally came really close to being turned by a trans citizen walking into a bathroom and performing a bodily function. It makes them shudder in fear.

Stop projecting

 

[EvolutionDenier]

Stop projecting

You were sooooo close to turning into this thing that is soooooo the innermost sense of being!

It's intrinsic to their being and is also so flimsy that you probably want to be it!

 

[lucas80]

You didn’t answer my question but I’ll answer yours.
Yes

And, you are comfortable telling them they aren't equal to you? Have you ignored every post by the members of the medical community here who have explained that things aren't quite as simple as the M/F forms?
Do you understand you are being manipulated?

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

And, you are comfortable telling them they aren't equal to you? Have you ignored every post by the members of the medical community here who have explained that things aren't quite as simple as the M/F forms?
Do you understand you are being manipulated?

You still haven't answered my question.

 

[KFsdisciple]

And, you are comfortable telling them they aren't equal to you? Have you ignored every post by the members of the medical community here who have explained that things aren't quite as simple as the M/F forms?
Do you understand you are being manipulated?

They really are that simple though. The most basic, primal, fact in nature is that there are two sexes/genders in all mammals. Why don't we have trans deer or trans cats?

 

[artradley]

And, you are comfortable telling them they aren't equal to you? Have you ignored every post by the members of the medical community here who have explained that things aren't quite as simple as the M/F forms?
Do you understand you are being manipulated?

It certainly seems to me that you are the one being manipulated.

For the vast majority of trans, there is zero question regarding their biological sex. It really is simple.

Gender is an entirely different subject. But as a man-made social construct I am less interested in gender than in things that are concrete.

 

[artradley]

Do you know any trans citizens, and do you consider yourself well educated on the subject, and the science involved?

Yes, I know exactly one trans person. And I am reasonably educated on basic biology, which is the only pertinent science when defining males versus females from a clinical viewpoint.

 

[MitchLL]

I'm just so relieved that Reynolds returned safely from the dangerous photo op at Eagle Pass.

Hope she wore the "battle gear" like that true patriot Ted Cruz!