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Look, the LEO that stuck the guy was wrong. Plain and simple. However, so many people expect ideal conduct from police officers under enormously stressful circumstances for much of their day-to-day working life...without having any real knowledge of what working in law enforcement actually entails. You call for cleaning up the system. Better hiring and training. Better this, better that. But, you don't have the first clue about the system that you're so comfortable to call out and scream to reform. Is that fair?
 
Perp spit immediately before being struck. Cop held his head away after hitting him. Obviously angered by assault/s occurring to his officers. Spit bag was called out for prior to the strike. Perp was assaulting officers and got decked for it. Not sure what the outrage is for here. Little sympathy for criminals. Cops actions were retaliatory. Lesson here is: Don’t want to get decked? Don’t spit on cops. Cops should sue for mental trauma from getting spit on. Could contract corona and die and other transmissible diseases.

Third degree felony in Texas.


Can be considered assault & battery in Cali

 
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Perp spit immediately before being struck. Cop held his head away after hitting him. Obviously angered by assault/s occurring to his officers. Spit bag was called out for prior to the strike. Perp was assaulting officers and got decked for it. Not sure what the outrage is for here. Little sympathy for criminals. Cops actions were retaliatory. Lesson here is: Don’t want to get decked? Don’t spit on cops. Cops should sue for mental trauma from getting spit on. Could contract corona and die and other transmissible diseases.

Third degree felony in Texas.


Can be considered assault & battery in Cali

So your position is that once someone does something they shouldn’t to cops, as much assault as the cops want to dish out is fair, regardless of the person’s restraint status? Guy resists arrest and is ultimately battled to the ground and cuffed. As he’s being walked to the squad car, the cops can just go at him because of what he did prior?

This is a ridiculous stance. This person was cuffed to the gurney, already injured and well under control. I’m willing to believe he probably earned whatever injuries he already had going into the ambulance, but that last throw by the cop was way beyond the pale. The guy’s hands are cuffed down - it’s the ultimate sucker punch.

You also say the perp spit immediately before being struck. That would not explain why the cop came flying in from out of frame to throw the punch.
 
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So your position is that once someone does something they shouldn’t to cops, as much assault as the cops want to dish out is fair, regardless of the person’s restraint status? Guy resists arrest and is ultimately battled to the ground and cuffed. As he’s being walked to the squad car, the cops can just go at him because of what he did prior?

This is a ridiculous stance. This person was cuffed to the gurney, already injured and well under control. I’m willing to believe he probably earned whatever injuries he already had going into the ambulance, but that last throw by the cop was way beyond the pale. The guy’s hands are cuffed down - it’s the ultimate sucker punch.

You also say the perp spit immediately before being struck. That would not explain why the cop came flying in from out of frame to throw the punch.

No I’m not saying that at all. This was a carjacker, a violent criminal, spitting on cops. There is always more to the story.
He shouldnt have punched the perp but I don’t understand the outrage.

**** that POS criminal punk. I feel bad for the carjacker victims, not him.
 
Look, the LEO that stuck the guy was wrong. Plain and simple. However, so many people expect ideal conduct from police officers under enormously stressful circumstances for much of their day-to-day working life...without having any real knowledge of what working in law enforcement actually entails. You call for cleaning up the system. Better hiring and training. Better this, better that. But, you don't have the first clue about the system that you're so comfortable to call out and scream to reform. Is that fair?
I dont think it's asking too much to expect a cop not to punch a man handcuffed to a gurney.
 
Look, the LEO that stuck the guy was wrong. Plain and simple. However, so many people expect ideal conduct from police officers under enormously stressful circumstances for much of their day-to-day working life...without having any real knowledge of what working in law enforcement actually entails. You call for cleaning up the system. Better hiring and training. Better this, better that. But, you don't have the first clue about the system that you're so comfortable to call out and scream to reform. Is that fair?
lol
 
Perp spit immediately before being struck. Cop held his head away after hitting him. Obviously angered by assault/s occurring to his officers. Spit bag was called out for prior to the strike. Perp was assaulting officers and got decked for it. Not sure what the outrage is for here. Little sympathy for criminals. Cops actions were retaliatory. Lesson here is: Don’t want to get decked? Don’t spit on cops. Cops should sue for mental trauma from getting spit on. Could contract corona and die and other transmissible diseases.

Third degree felony in Texas.


Can be considered assault & battery in Cali

So charge the guy spitting with a crime.
Another cop right there intervened. That should be enough to tell us all the cop was out of control.
 
And yet the cop can still have exceeded his authority.

Yes, he did, I still do not feel bad for someone who:

Committed a violent felony carjacking
Likely evaded police on a joyride
Likely resisted arrest
Likely assaulted officers repeatedly
Spit on police officers

I believe this young man got punched as a consequence of his own actions that day. You are free to feel sorry for this human waste of space all you like. I feel bad for police that have to deal with scum like him.
 
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So charge the guy spitting with a crime.
Another cop right there intervened. That should be enough to tell us all the cop was out of control.

The cop was wrong to punch him and will be charged and prosecuted accordingly. This simply does not excuse the criminals actions that led up to the punch.
 
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Yes, he did, I still do not feel bad for someone who:

Committed a violent felony carjacking
Likely evaded police on a joyride
Likely resisted arrest
Likely assaulted officers repeatedly
Spit on police officers

I believe this young man got punched as a consequence of his own actions that day. You are free to feel sorry for this human waste of space all you like. I feel bad for police that have to deal with scum like him.
My comments are not out of “feeling bad” for the guy in the gurney - it’s about stopping bad police work. Officers shouldn’t get away with this kind of behavior just because the guy cuffed to the gurney might be a violent scumbag.
 
Nobody said it excuses the alleged criminal's actions. Dude can be charged with assault for spitting. Cops don't get to punish people though. The judicial system does that.

I see no outcry for this violent criminals offensive actions. None. Maybe that is what is wrong with society when the violent criminal gets made out to be the victim. He is only a victim of his own stupid decisions. He is the reason he got punched. That much is very clear.
 
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If you spit on someone, you'd better expect a fist to be flying in your direction. I'd imagine that's pretty standard.

The cop absolutely should not have thrown the punch.

However, it is almost human nature to react. Add in the stress of the job and it is easy to see how someone would react the way the cop did.
 
Fire him, and arrest him for aggravated battery. It's very simple.
I think you have to look hard at the other officers, too. You never cuss in front of grandma because you KNOW she doesn’t go for that. This guy was totally comfortable acting like a thug in front of his fellow officers. What kind of guys are they?
 
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I think you have to look hard at the other officers, too. You never cuss in front of grandma because you KNOW she doesn’t go for that. This guy was totally comfortable acting like a thug in front of his fellow officers. What kind of guys are they?
One of the other officers stepped in and moved the punching cop away. He did the right thing.
 
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Well we are never going to put this ugly chapter in American history behind us until mentalities like yours disappear
I agree but we are never going to END this ugly chapter until people learn to respect the law as well as other people PERIOD.
 
Four climate scientists chain themselves to a fence....LAPD goes nuts

A cop can't punch a dude on a stretcher and keep his job, but in the video there were a lot more than 4 people and their body language didn't say "I'm an innocent bystander and I'm getting out of here before sh#t gets real."

It may have started with 4 real, credentialed climate scientists peacefully demonstrating, but it's well beyond that by the time this video was taken. This guy is clearly spinning up a narrative and I don't believe anything he's saying and Im highly uspicious of what may be going on outside the view of the camera. It makes me question his definition of a climate scientist too.
 
The broad brush people are so willing to use and label and describe ALL police officers is pretty unbelievable. It’s funny because if one were to post videos of a race of people committing crimes and label them all like that, the same people who stereotype cops would be outraged. I can’t believe the double standard. Heck, as many female teachers that are charged with raping their students, we should be torching schools.
 
The broad brush people are so willing to use and label and describe ALL police officers is pretty unbelievable. It’s funny because if one were to post videos of a race of people committing crimes and label them all like that, the same people who stereotype cops would be outraged. I can’t believe the double standard. Heck, as many female teachers that are charged with raping their students, we should be torching schools.

This thread is filled with specific incidents. Not many are characterizing all cops as bad. Although it is very clear many cops do excuse and cover up this behavior.
Shining a light on the illegal behavior of those who we trust with state sanctioned lethal force, is absolutely critical to prevent incremental authoritarianism.
 
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This thread is filled with specific incidents. Not many are characterizing all cops as bad. Although it is very clear many cops do excuse and cover up this behavior.
Shining a light on the illegal behavior of those who we trust with state sanctioned lethal force, is absolutely critical to prevent incremental authoritarianism.

People need to learn that authoritarianism is fun when you are the authoritarian. This applies to how the right wing operates today.
 
The broad brush people are so willing to use and label and describe ALL police officers is pretty unbelievable. It’s funny because if one were to post videos of a race of people committing crimes and label them all like that, the same people who stereotype cops would be outraged. I can’t believe the double standard. Heck, as many female teachers that are charged with raping their students, we should be torching schools.

Let us know when the good cops do something about the bad cops.
 
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Jose Sandoval, Jessie Sandoval, Omar Covarrubias, James Cross, Ruben Jimenez, Edwin Barajas, Taylor Ingersoll, Samuel Aldama, Mizrain Orrego

Screw them racist white cops, amiright?
 
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