That makes concentration camps sound like something reasonable though"holding areas" = "concentration camps"
That makes concentration camps sound like something reasonable though"holding areas" = "concentration camps"
That makes concentration camps sound like something reasonable though
Don't forget to add in the costs of taking care of migrants while they're in line to be deported. Figure about 10 years.A lot less than the billions just NYC is paying to support them. Thanks old Joe and kamala.
- So far, in Fiscal Year 2023, NYC has spent $1.45 billion to help migrants
- Much of the cost has gone toward providing shelter, food and services
- Nearly 200 emergency shelters have opened in NYC since last year
- Without policy changes, NYC could potentially spend $12 billion on asylum seekers over next three fiscal years
Ok? May have been over response to threat in that situation.Per our own Supreme Court, they were completely "reasonable" during WWII in America.
According to Trump? Yes.
According to Trump-voting Latinos? No.
the trouble would be that we don't begin to have facilities capable of holding all those Trump wants deported.We have people wait in prisons until their trials.
I don't think the idea of someone awaiting deportation being held in detention is necessarily wrong.
The wrong would be the amount of time and or conditions in detention.
And I wouldn't be against non violent offenders being released in some capacity provided they could be tracked.
Sure. I was mostly just pointing out that the label associated with detention means little; it's how said detention operates. The idea of detention itself isn't something the vast majority of people are against.the trouble would be that we don't begin to have facilities capable of holding all those Trump wants deported.
Lol, we already are.Don't forget to add in the costs of taking care of migrants while they're in line to be deported. Figure about 10 years.
If they have a work permit, wouldn't that imply they're here...legally?Lol, we already are.
And nobody is going to wait in line, lol. You get a date to be at the airport. They end your work permit. If you're not their they come and get you. No money where are you going to hide.
No. The current catch and release order in the US gives them a permit after 180 days while the wait for their adjudication, which could be 15 YEARS.If they have a work permit, wouldn't that imply they're here...legally?
You can thank the 7 of 9 democrat judges for that.Per our own Supreme Court, they were completely "reasonable" during WWII in America.
This guy managed to out-stupid his hat/hair. I didn’t think that would be possible at first.
But mah eggs?!?!??Damn. Crazy to think we will have the Great Depression and interment camps during the same presidency. What else can trump take us back to?!
Clinton had a good idea for this. Basically build a compound/city on the border for them to wait at. They would build and live/work there.We have people wait in prisons until their trials.
I don't think the idea of someone awaiting deportation being held in detention is necessarily wrong.
The wrong would be the amount of time and or conditions in detention.
And I wouldn't be against non violent offenders being released in some capacity provided they could be tracked.
Something orderly and humane at least. What we have now is an idiotic mess.Clinton had a good idea for this. Basically build a compound/city on the border for them to wait at. They would build and live/work there.
so if they honor the conditions of their catch and release order, are holding down a job, they should be deported because the system is crap?No. The current catch and release order in the US gives them a permit after 180 days while the wait for their adjudication, which could be 15 YEARS.
I mean the word “concentration” just refers to it being an area with many people.That makes concentration camps sound like something reasonable though
Great idea! An American Gaza. What could possibly go wrong? 🙄Something orderly and humane at least. What we have now is an idiotic mess.
I have no more empathy. I'm so pissed at the men I will be avoiding their restaurants.That’s their problem.
You sure don't seem upset that Trump won. Weird.Is that violin music I hear playing softly in the background while pictures of crying babies come to mind?
Link to me favoring the punishment of a baby, please?
She voted for him. That much is clear.You sure don't seem upset that Trump won. Weird.
Can't be. she said she wouldn't.She voted for him. That much is clear.
Me neither, in terms of empathy.I have no more empathy. I'm so pissed at the men I will be avoiding their restaurants.
He's said he'd be focused on those with deportation orders and those with criminal records. I would guess he'll stop there. He knows we need the labor (the dirty little secret).I’ve seen several stories like this — most recently on 60 Minutes last night. Latino Trump voters with non-citizen relatives/friends who believe he’s only going to deport the “bad ones” — not the illegals who are peacefully working in the US.
What do we think about this? Are they right or is he going to keep his word and deport all 20 million of them, good ones and bad ones all?
I was trying to get the discussion to focus on details, not scary language. Details is the proper way to argue.I mean the word “concentration” just refers to it being an area with many people.
Not all concentration camps historically were like the Nazi death camps.
There are Palestinians that have been living in concentration camps for decades. If Trump gets his way, that’s probably what we’ll end up with here - ain’t no way these other countries are taking 20-some million people back. It’s a ludicrous idea.
We don't have the facilities in place currently to handle more than a small percentage of those Trump has said should be deported.Details wise, no, I wouldn't support people being detained for years. I would support months in a humane environment, and of a certain subset of the illegal population.
Ok. Build better/more facilities or you're limited in what you can detain at any given time.We don't have the facilities in place currently to handle more than a small percentage of those Trump has said should be deported.
Don't confuse Trump with facts.Ok. Build better/more facilities or you're limited in what you can detain at any given time.
the trouble would be that we don't begin to have facilities capable of holding all those Trump wants deported.
You must have not understood how Dems lost the election!!!
You simply can't call stupid people stupid.
At least, not out loud.
I can make it pretty well at home. I’m not even talking about “white people taco night”!Me neither, in terms of empathy.
I like Mexican food, though, and don't give a shit enough to stop frequenting restaurants.
Like babies except when they are in the womb.I like babies and don't think booting them back to their corrupt and dangerous home countries is a humane thing.
Sorry you're such a cold-hearted bitch.
How bout we increase funding/resources so that it doesn't take years for their hearing?
Thereby putting peoples lives at risk for those who have truly legit claims…How about we only admit asylum claims at the rate that we can adequately process them?,.. These people can wait their turn.
Logic ain't MAGAs strong suit here...If they have a work permit, wouldn't that imply they're here...legally?
This was in the border bill MAGA tossed out.How bout we increase funding/resources so that it doesn't take years for their hearing?
That has already been the focus.He's said he'd be focused on those with deportation orders and those with criminal records.