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Latino Trump voters: “he’ll only deport the bad ones.”

A lot less than the billions just NYC is paying to support them. Thanks old Joe and kamala.

  • So far, in Fiscal Year 2023, NYC has spent $1.45 billion to help migrants
  • Much of the cost has gone toward providing shelter, food and services
  • Nearly 200 emergency shelters have opened in NYC since last year
  • Without policy changes, NYC could potentially spend $12 billion on asylum seekers over next three fiscal years
Don't forget to add in the costs of taking care of migrants while they're in line to be deported. Figure about 10 years.
 
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We have people wait in prisons until their trials.

I don't think the idea of someone awaiting deportation being held in detention is necessarily wrong.

The wrong would be the amount of time and or conditions in detention.

And I wouldn't be against non violent offenders being released in some capacity provided they could be tracked.
 
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We have people wait in prisons until their trials.

I don't think the idea of someone awaiting deportation being held in detention is necessarily wrong.

The wrong would be the amount of time and or conditions in detention.

And I wouldn't be against non violent offenders being released in some capacity provided they could be tracked.
the trouble would be that we don't begin to have facilities capable of holding all those Trump wants deported.
 
the trouble would be that we don't begin to have facilities capable of holding all those Trump wants deported.
Sure. I was mostly just pointing out that the label associated with detention means little; it's how said detention operates. The idea of detention itself isn't something the vast majority of people are against.
 
Don't forget to add in the costs of taking care of migrants while they're in line to be deported. Figure about 10 years.
Lol, we already are.

And nobody is going to wait in line, lol. You get a date to be at the airport. They end your work permit. If you're not there they come and get you. No money where are you going to hide.
 
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We have people wait in prisons until their trials.

I don't think the idea of someone awaiting deportation being held in detention is necessarily wrong.

The wrong would be the amount of time and or conditions in detention.

And I wouldn't be against non violent offenders being released in some capacity provided they could be tracked.
Clinton had a good idea for this. Basically build a compound/city on the border for them to wait at. They would build and live/work there.
 
No. The current catch and release order in the US gives them a permit after 180 days while the wait for their adjudication, which could be 15 YEARS.
so if they honor the conditions of their catch and release order, are holding down a job, they should be deported because the system is crap?

How bout we increase funding/resources so that it doesn't take years for their hearing?
 

That makes concentration camps sound like something reasonable though
I mean the word “concentration” just refers to it being an area with many people.

Not all concentration camps historically were like the Nazi death camps.

There are Palestinians that have been living in concentration camps for decades. If Trump gets his way, that’s probably what we’ll end up with here - ain’t no way these other countries are taking 20-some million people back. It’s a ludicrous idea.
 
I’ve seen several stories like this — most recently on 60 Minutes last night. Latino Trump voters with non-citizen relatives/friends who believe he’s only going to deport the “bad ones” — not the illegals who are peacefully working in the US.

What do we think about this? Are they right or is he going to keep his word and deport all 20 million of them, good ones and bad ones all?
He's said he'd be focused on those with deportation orders and those with criminal records. I would guess he'll stop there. He knows we need the labor (the dirty little secret).

Ain't nobody tryin to pick their own fruit...
 
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I mean the word “concentration” just refers to it being an area with many people.

Not all concentration camps historically were like the Nazi death camps.

There are Palestinians that have been living in concentration camps for decades. If Trump gets his way, that’s probably what we’ll end up with here - ain’t no way these other countries are taking 20-some million people back. It’s a ludicrous idea.
I was trying to get the discussion to focus on details, not scary language. Details is the proper way to argue.

Details wise, no, I wouldn't support people being detained for years. I would support months in a humane environment, and of a certain subset of the illegal population.

Of course I'm skeptical we'd try to return 20m people all at once.

Israel is a completely different mess. We don't have a subset of the trying to lob missiles at us.
 
Details wise, no, I wouldn't support people being detained for years. I would support months in a humane environment, and of a certain subset of the illegal population.
We don't have the facilities in place currently to handle more than a small percentage of those Trump has said should be deported.
 
the trouble would be that we don't begin to have facilities capable of holding all those Trump wants deported.


Well, then expect a boom in construction. You know who builds facilities for ICE?

The GEO Group, Inc. (GEO)​

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Nov 5 close was 15.13, Nov 11 close was 26.48, just saying.
 
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You must have not understood how Dems lost the election!!!
You simply can't call stupid people stupid.

At least, not out loud.

Especially not on the internet! Gol'dern conservatives are more skittish than Punxsutawney Phil on the second of February.
 
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