No shit. Once you kill someone it's pretty obvious that you no longer are responsible.Those were caused by the irresponsible gun owners.
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No shit. Once you kill someone it's pretty obvious that you no longer are responsible.Those were caused by the irresponsible gun owners.
33,000 gun deaths a year. That's not a problem?
Nope. You can just make it way easier to kill people. But let's not split hairs here.No. You can't stop people from killing each other. If you really wanted to help it, you should push your party to stop it's assault on the common man in favor of the corporations. Desperate people do desperate things. Give people a reason to flourish and they'll flourish. Beat them down until they lose hope, and they'll lash out at what they perceive as the reason for their misery.
I'm not sure what this is, a threat, a warning, a thank god we're not worse, statement.
Nope. You can just make it way easier to kill people. But let's not split hairs here.
If we're ever invaded, I'll be thankful.
I know the difference between good math and bad math. We can start there. Ready to admit the original claim is wrong?
Hard to say. I have friends that own anywhere from dozens to hundreds. Some of them couldnt tell you exactlyHow many guns do you think the guy with 50,000 rounds has?
Now do cars.33,000 gun deaths a year. That's not a problem?
A 1000 rounds is a few hundred bucks. Let's say $300 for math's sake, which works out to 30 cents per round. 25 trillion times .3 is 7.5 trillion.
The annual revenue of the gun and ammo industry is $13 billion. We need to get to $7.5 trillion. The math doesn't add up.
33,000 gun deaths a year. That's not a problem?
Ah, the old knife vs gun argument. You know you're losing when you trot this out.It isn't hard to kill someone with a knife, comrade. What are you going to do, ban all guns? The more you ban guns, the tougher you make it for the weaker members of society to defend themselves. There's a reason for the quote:
God created men and Sam Colt made them equal.
Agreed. Cars are one of the most dangerous forms of transportation. Wish we could use trains instead. If only one specific party wasn't getting in the way of that...Now do cars.
Except for the 33,000 deaths each year. But yeah. Beyond the super bad math and ignoring of the thousands of deaths caused each year by guns, the meme is spot on.When have I said the original claim was wrong? While the math is wrong and obviously a hyperbole, the premise is spot on. And you still don't know shit about guns and ammo.
Ah, the old knife vs gun argument. You know you're losing when you trot this out.
Except for the 33,000 deaths each year. But yeah. Beyond the super bad math and ignoring of the thousands of deaths caused each year by guns, the meme is spot on.
So when do you start winning the gun argument? We've been waiting for years.Ah, the old knife vs gun argument. You know you're losing when you trot this out.
Legal gun deaths?Like the fact that you used "gun deaths" instead of "illegal gun deaths?" Just like you refrain from commenting on where most of those illegal gun deaths come from and who is responsible? Don't try to pretend that you aren't trying to manipulate the numbers for your own benefit, comrade.
I have that and a calculator.That's all you have, the number 33k. Of course, that's a number that you're manipulating to make it look worse than it really is. You've been called out a few times in this thread for it now.
Yet one is a right. One is a privilege.Agreed. Cars are one of the most dangerous forms of transportation. Wish we could use trains instead. If only one specific party wasn't getting in the way of that...
I am doing my part. Have over 20 guns now. AR15s are super funThat's pathetic. Get that number over a billion if you want to impress anyone.
Agreed. Cars are one of the most dangerous forms of transportation. Wish we could use trains instead. If only one specific party wasn't getting in the way of that...
Legal gun deaths?
I have that and a calculator.
Justifiable homicide by citizens as well as police are included in the 33,000 numbers as are the 22,000 suicides. So yes those include legal gun deaths.Legal gun deaths?
Good job. Aim for 100.I am doing my part. Have over 20 guns now. AR15s are super fun
259 of them in 2012. Yep, you're doing greatJustifiable homicide by citizens as well as police are included in the 33,000 numbers as are the 22,000 suicides. So yes those include legal gun deaths.
Good job. Aim for 100.
259 of them in 2012. Yep, you're doing great
Oops, try again, you missed a few.259 of them in 2012. Yep, you're doing great
5 deaths? Some 12,000 non suicide deaths happen every year. It would have to be closer to 50 illegal gun deaths.You don't even get it. You're trying to take this 33k number and make it sound like these were all violent crimes committed, and if we just banned guns, we could save 33k deaths a year.
Does your 'study' talk about the chances of one legal gun death saving five illegal gun deaths? I doubt it. It's a propaganda fluff piece used to get gullible people like you to hand over their rights.
Tree fiddy?How many guns do you think the guy with 50,000 rounds has?
You sound jelly. @Raglefant likes you. Chin up.What's the matter, comrade? Is nobody paying attention to you?
Awwwwww........
So accidental gun shootings don't count in your world?@Huey, the FBI shows that there were 8124 firearm murders in 2014. That's a far cry from the 33k you're trying to push here.
https://www.quandl.com/data/FBI/WEAPONS11-US-Murders-by-Weapon-Type
So accidental gun shootings don't count in your world?
5 deaths? Some 12,000 non suicide deaths happen every year. It would have to be closer to 50 illegal gun deaths.
You know, there's probably a calculator on your phone. You won't blow up if you use it.
If you fell down a flight of stairs would you consider it an act of violence? You continually include accidental gun deaths in your gun violence numbers.So accidental gun shootings don't count in your world?