Do you know what "25%" is?You truly are an idiot and incapable
It's NOT this:
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Do you know what "25%" is?You truly are an idiot and incapable
Do you know what "25%" is?
It's NOT this:
BUT IT'S NOT WHAT THE ATTENDANCE WAS.%25 is what the NBA allowed.
BUT IT'S NOT WHAT THE ATTENDANCE WAS.
Not.Even.Close
But, you still appear to be defending your little minion, Cletus, on here, that 2020-2021 was somehow "normal".
The original point was that (winter) 2020-2021 was a "normal year".I was wrong about 20-21 being at %25, but there were fans.
The original point was that (winter) 2020-2021 was a "normal year".
I called your minion Cletus out on that. Do you AGREE with my point, or not?
Then inform Cletus this is the case.Again, I have said things were not normal that year.
Then inform Cletus this is the case.
NBA put a CAP on attendance, and people did not even want to attend up to that cap.
They attended MAYBE 1/4th or 1/5th of that allowable cap.
Ergo: SOMETHING WAS NOT NORMAL.
They weren't played in a bubble, were they? C'mon, you've been doing so good admitting your mistakes, don't flake now.Now, go look at the attendance records for 2021.
NOT normal, were they?
Again: 'Splain that you your minion here, who is stating the opposite.I’m not talking to anyone else but you.
2020-2021 was not normal. Easy.
NopeThey weren't played in a bubble, were they?
Thank you
People were partaking in normal behaviors 2 years ago - hence you whining on here. Dont conflate policies with desires.You agreeing that 2020-2021 wasn't "normal business" in the US now?
People were partaking in normal behaviors 2 years ago
Like I said, don't conflate policy with desire.MOST were NOT. That's why NBA games had barely 5% normal attendance, when they could have had 5x that number.
People like Herman Cain "behaved normally"; it's the internet gives out Herman Cain Awards now....
Like I said, don't conflate policy with desire.
There were testing and/or vaccination requirements for admittance, correct? Policy dictating behavior. (Or are you going to tell us there was no reluctancy to do those either now?)What "desire" was there to attend sporting events, when they didn't come within 1/3 of the approved capacity? NBA stadiums were nowhere near their "25%". Those links are posted for you.
There were testing and/or vaccination requirements for admittance, correct?
Another example of policies dictating desires & behaviors.What does this have to do with your claim?
No; it's demonstrating to you that people DID NOT WANT to attend events in droves that winter, when 4000 people a day were dying from Covid, and hospital ICUs were overwhelmed with patients.Another example of policies dictating desires & behaviors.
No, its not. Its an example of policies dictating behavior. But back to the point you keep ignoring: Since you're hellbent on using NBA attendance as the barometer for normalcy, why dont you quantify for us how many people make NBA game attendance part of their "normal behavior routine"... Want to bet it's nowhere near the number that attend parties, weddings, meetings, go shopping, etc? Even you can't be that dense.No; it's demonstrating to you that people DID NOT WANT to attend events in droves that winter, when 4000 people a day were dying from Covid, and hospital ICUs were overwhelmed with patients.
You continue to ignore the realities of that winter. Either you are gaslighting here, or you've been gaslit.
No, its not. Its an example of policies dictating behavior.
Policy required a negative test and/or vax proof for admittance.Policy required 25% attendance limits
Those limits were not remotely met. Barely 25% of the 25% limit.
That behavior was dictated by the virus; not politics. 4000 people a day dying from it during that winter.
Policy required a negative test and/or vax proof for admittance.
5th time: Since you're hellbent on using NBA attendance as the barometer for normalcy, why dont you quantify for us how many people make NBA game attendance part of their "normal behavior routine"... Want to bet it's nowhere near the number that attend parties, weddings, meetings, go shopping, etc? Even you can't be that dense.So? They couldn't find more than a few hundred takers during that winter?
It's one example5th time: Since you're hellbent on using NBA attendance as the barometer for normalcy
So you agree, it is a poor barometer - especially when compared to behaviors such as meeting attendance, weddings, birthdays, brick and mortar shopping, dining, etc. Glad we agree, but you'd save us both a lot of time if you didn't make me ask 5 times.It's one example
AND, despite the ability to have 25% attendance, they barely cracked 5%.
You can go look at most of the "hospitality" industry during that timeframe, and find similar behaviors. NOT "normal", as per your contentions.
ONE EXAMPLESo you agree, it is a poor barometer
So you agree, it is a poor barometer - especially when compared to behaviors such as meeting attendance, weddings, birthdays, brick and mortar shopping, dining, etc. which you've conceded long ago were happening frequently - hence your time spent on this board bitching about other people (worry about yourself until you can grasp why texting & driving should not be condoned)ONE EXAMPLE
How about the "hotel industry"...
From 2020:
The number of infections caused by the coronavirus grew quickly in October and November. Even more new cases are expected by the end of the year, as people gather indoors and travel for the holiday season and compliance with best practices to stop the spread is mixed. More than a million people per day traveled in the days before Thanksgiving. “It’s scary to see what the outcome of that travel spike will be,” says Freitag.The percentage of hotel rooms occupied in fourth quarter of 2020 is expected to drop to 41.5 percent, according to CBRE Hotels Research. That’s down from 44.2 percent the quarter before.“Short-term performance will remain challenged by travel restrictions and local market lockdowns,” says Kevin Davis, senior managing director for the Hotels & Hospitality Group in the New York City office of JLL.So, hotel occupancies were anticipated to "drop" 44.2 percent from Q3 2020, to <42% occupancy. That's winter 2020; when you assert "everything was normal"...
The Hotel Sector Prepares for a Long Winter
With distribution of working vaccines on the horizon, a recovery for the sector should take shape throughout 2021.www.wealthmanagement.com
And:
The U.S. hotel industry reported all-time lows in occupancy and revenue per available room (RevPAR), according to year-end 2020 data from STR.
In addition to historically low absolute levels in the aforementioned metrics, average daily rate (ADR) came in lower than any year since 2011. Year-over-year declines were the worst on record across the three key performance metrics.
2020 officially the worst year on record for U.S. hotels
The U.S. hotel industry reported all-time lows in occupancy and revenue per available room (RevPAR), according to year-end 2020 data from STR.str.com
Those are BOTH "2 years ago", when you claim "everyone was back to normal"
So you agree, it is a poor barometer
No, it's not. Family gatherings are a barometer, meeting attendance is a barometer, shopping is a barometer.No; it's ONE barometer.
Yes, it is "one barometer".No, it's not.
I've literally not changed my position once. If your reading comprehension is so poor, you can't grasp what's been said for several pages, that's not surprising, but it's a "you" issue.Now, you're shifting to just "family gatherings".
And it's entirely wrong.I've literally not changed my position once.
no, its not. Everything ive said people were doing they absolutely were.And it's entirely wrong.
No one has claimed there weren't "outliers".no, its not. Everything ive said people were doing they absolutely were.
You're getting close - now acknowledge professional sports attendance is an outlying behavior and parties, shopping, meetings, etc are normal and we can be done.No one has claimed there weren't "outliers".
You're getting close - now acknowledge professional sports attendance is an outlying behavior