There are obv many things that go into sos clown poster. One major thing is however that being terrible with help your sos and being good won't. It is only a factor, but an undeniable factor. Annnnnd you guys are terrible.
Little Bro being little bro.....
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Alabama had the toughest SOS in the country last year. USC was #2 followed by Iowa State
Yeah and one of the factors in sos is preseason rankings. Pretty sure every team but one started the season ranked in one half of the conf. See how stupid your strength of schedule argument is?
It still doesn't change the fact that being terrible raises your sos and being good hurts it. Cherry pick some more stats window licker.
What are two teams known to have football success and tradition and one other team that does not, Alex?
If I am being honest, I do highly respect ISU and UNI fans. There are so many people in our great state that are, for instance, Alabama fans, and have never even been within 2 hours of the city and/or stadium. I mean especially ISU fans because they are loyal even through the dumpster fire that just keeps on burning. However, what gets old is these stupid trivial SOS and our new coach BS year after year after year.
Just admit that your team is garbage, but you are still a fan. I had to do that in 2012 and late 90's in football and the Lick years in basketball....it's really not that hard, my buddies who are Cubs fans have been doing it for years
After reading this entire thread I do have to agree, CyCity is a good poster. Several times hawk fans called names and blamed him for things he didn't say and he didn't take the bait. Seems to take a good beating just like his fav football team
Side note - I'm so glad I blocked 100 yrs etc, I imagine this thread would be twice as long from his contributions alone!
isu grads always cherry pick. When that doesn't work they selectively cherry pick the time frame.
Actually, no. The quality of a team has virtually no effect on its SOS, and what little effect it has is the opposite of what you seem to think.
He is suffering from the same delusion that affects a number of posters on this board. Doesn't understand what SOS means.
Lol clown
Really? so when Iowa causes multi teams to fall down the rankings like last year, it doesn't hurt their sos? And when teams put up 50+ on your clown squad and move up the ranking it doesn't make your sos tougher? Makes sense. in the case of bama every single team in the sec west was ranked in top 25 but one to start the season. Sos is a joke in that case and also in the case of the Shit b12. It's a stat used by fans that have nothing else to say.
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I agree, considering SOS is highly impacted by a bunch of sports writers opinions of teams before they have even played a game.
SOS is a myth isu grads use to not feel so pathetic. It is the only thing they have ever finished in the top 10 on for football.
Ouch.
It's funny teams that finish towards the bottom like Iowa state, Purdue, Boston college or Kentucky always talk about SOS. Hmmm what do they have in common let me see no matter who they play they aren't a good team end of excuses. As been mentioned before look at okie st, OU, TCU and baylors non conference schedule. Reason They all went 3-0.
So all big 12 teams play the same team. Isu played Iowa, Toledo and uni. So being a bottom feeder doesn't increase their SOS or the other big 12 teams playing nobodies for non conf doesn't have them being ranked so high? SOS excuses for sucking is like aholes, everybody has one...
You beat me to it, i was thinking the exact same thing about
Nope, only in Ames!
Its comical hearing ISU fans think their basketball team is the Duke of the Midwest. Ive lived all over the US and when people think of college basketball in Iowa, they think of the Hawks first.
Historically Iowa has a better basketball program and its not even close.
Why would Kentucky, Purdue or Boston College talk about SOS? They all had easy schedules unlike Iowa State
isu sucks regardless of schedule. It can't be schedule that is the reason they haven't won a conference title since 1912.
isu would have been lucky to win 3 games with Iowa's schedule in 2015.
Shared a title. Kinda weird, they tied at 2-0, and finished ahead of Drake at 2-2, and another team was 2-3.
Yep the high point of isu football is a tie for a conference title by having a 2-1-1 record.
Just remember isu doesn't suck it is their schedule.
If ISU didn't have to play Iowa every year they'd consistently have one of the weakest schedules in the country. Once again they're riding off our coat tails.
Yes, the SOS argument never gets old. ISU's SOS is strong because they play Iowa every year, and Iowa's is weak because they have ISU dragging it down.
If you have a very tough SOS but only win 3 games, then your team still sucked. They were worse than 9 teams they played. By records, one could say they were the worst team in the conference only behind Kansas, WHO DIDN'T WIN A GAME ALL SEASON.
The SOS argument only matters if, you know, your team actually wins games.
The SOS argument only matters if, you know, your team actually wins games.
I don't completely disagree with you , but , how many teams that were ranked at the time playing, did Iowa beat?
Not trying to be a smart ass. Just asking. I know there is bias and what site I am on so getting past that. As much as hawk fans are excited for this season so are Clone fans. We have a new coach and assistants and a fresh attitude. There is hope. There signs of positive directions getting positive results. Neither teams fans should be comparing to gauge one from the other but then again, that's what rivals do.
Have a nice day.
Not all of us are excited about this season.
A lot of us are optimistic about the long-term prospects and eager to see what the new guy puts on the field, but with the OL situation and the schedule (I ignore the morons who believe a team's record has nothing to do with how good its opponents are) a fan can't be both excited and realistic about next fall.
More power to you, though, brother.
Still waiting for any isu grad to give us examples of where SOS actually proved to be accurate when the post season rolled around. Just show us a year where a majority of teams with higher SOS rankings actually beat teams with lower SOS rankings. Not one game but a majority of all post season bowl games.
Otherwise SOS is a myth that isu grads continue to cling to.
Good luck.
Well consider the bad years Iowa had and the continued hope the fan base had for better days. Iowa got Fry and took off. There was also more support from the University for Athletics then ISU had for many years. You play the hand you're dealt I guess.
That is only because of the inflated big 12 record due preseason rankings (which are really dumb) and the conferences weak non conference schedule. If you look at the schedule objectively you will find that Iowa's schedule is really not as bad as many make it out to be. Just because they didn't play the preseason favorites doesn't mean they didn't play and beat some really good teams. Especially considering they played MSU and Stanford. Not to mention 10 win NW, Wisconsin not too shabby, Pitt ended up better than most expected. Indiana was much better than most thought and still think and obviously Nebraska was title contenders, just ask them about it
It's also that the Big 12 plays absolutely NO DEFENSE and puts up basketball type scores all season long. The media loves this and over hypes the Big 12 from top to bottom. Then when they get into bowl games the basketball scores mysteriously go away when facing any semblance of a defense. Happens every year and I'm surprised the media talking heads haven't picked up on it.
ISU AD is the worst. Has set your program back over and over again. Do any ISU fans still like/support him?
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