Yeah, ISU is one of the worst in the country. Unfortunately for you, so is Iowa. The only real difference is that I believe ISU as a whole understands where they are in the national landscape, Iowa on the other hand is in some delusional state where most everyone can't seem to wrap their head around how terrible the football program is these days.
Little brother not so little anymore?
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Yeah, ISU is one of the worst in the country. Unfortunately for you, so is Iowa. The only real difference is that I believe ISU as a whole understands where they are in the national landscape, Iowa on the other hand is in some delusional state where most everyone can't seem to wrap their head around how terrible the football program is these days.
Curious what your criteria are placing Iowa as one of the worst in the country? Because they lost to one of the worst?
Here is where isu stacks up in the national landscape for football they are the only Power 5 schools to not have won a conference championship since 1912. Even that wasn't an outright win but one they tied for with a whopping 2-0-1 record.
Ouch
Outback Bowl and the Tax Slayer Bowl is better than any bowl in isu's history.
Yep isu fans consider that terrible yet they aren't delusional because they say so.
Hang around some, I don't think anyone struggles or is delusional about the current state of Iowa football. Most fans don't want to stay in this state and want some sort of change. We are not OSU, but we have had some good runs over the years and spend a lot of time finishing in the upper half of the conference. I will take our terrible over your version anyday! Focus on winning something other than our annual pillow fight!
Wait Pollard won't tout the research fraud at isu or isu's academic standing or isu's Directors Cup position?
Why not?
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Hey I4 why is isu $192 million behind Iowa in external funding if they are aren't little bro?
Oh and since Pollard loves to tout the enrollment figure maybe he should put up another billboard. "Come to isu, we have more enrollment and spend less on your education than Iowa".
Ouch the truth hurts. But don't stop now I4, we want more. We want more. We want more.
Umm yeah ok. Let's do a comparison. ISU in its in entire history has won 3 bowl games, finished in the top 25 two times and never won more than 9 games. Hasn't won a conf title in over a 100 years nor ever played in a conference title game. Just in terms of KF being at Iowa he has won equal conf titles doubled amount of bowl victories. Finished in top 10 multiple times and top 25 and has reached 10 plus wins 4 times (a feat never done in Ames).
Last 4-5 years hasn't been great but last year was considered disappointing at 7-6 which is the best season the clones have had under Rhoads in his first year. Iowa isn't elite but by no means are they terrible in the terms of ISU.
Iowa has gone 34-30 in the last 5 years, much to the fans' great disappointment. ISU has gone 22-40 in the same time span, and their fans are running around bragging about their awesome end zone and class size.
ISU's best 5 year span was 32-30 in 2000-2004. or 32-25 in 1974-1978.
So, the best 5 year periods in the entire 123+ year history of Cyclone football are more or less equal to the last 5 years of Iowa football.
ISU's best 5 year span was 32-30 in 2000-2004. or 32-25 in 1974-1978.
So, the best 5 year periods in the entire 123+ year history of Cyclone football are more or less equal to the last 5 years of Iowa football.
LOL. You're right, this is pretty silly. Can't believe i'm dumb enough to keep reading instead of getting some work done. THIS - ISU needs to keep their prices down to put butts in the seats. Simple supply and demand. The cheap mini-packs ($99 for UNI IA CHOICE) are to insure they have at least one capacity crowd for photo-op of full new stadium, which will be impossible should the season play out as prognosticated. UNI and IA make up the only small window of opportunity to accomplish that. Not sure why AD felt compelled to add a CHOICE to the mix unless legitimate strong concern about the other 4 home games. And yes, there is growing apathy at Iowa because Iowa fans demand more than a mediocre product.
I don't think you fully understand the situation, but you're close. Or maybe you understand it completely and I'm not getting that from what you wrote.
For reasons that should be obvious, demand for football tickets at ISU this season is lower than it has been the past few years. Most likely, a relatively small number of less desirable seats won't get sold. So offering a deal on those seats should bring in some revenue that otherwise wouldn't be available.
I never took Marketing 101, but I suspect this would have been covered the first day. It's one side of the coin. The other side of the coin is charging people who want to buy tickets for MBB in Hilton the face value of the ticket plus a surcharge.
Iowa, and every other college, has done similar things in the past.
I got tired of reading this entire thread, but there is no doubt about some apathy and reduced ticket sales NOW in Iowa program. However, when Hawks start to string some wins together this year (like I anticipate), the full fanbase will return and well, ISwho, will still be ISwho.
More like ignoring what makes isu well isu. Still waiting for Pollard to tweet that isu has more enrollment and spends less on educating its students than Iowa.
Tell us how it really is I4. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it.
Actually LC any intro business class would say if you have to discount your prime product offering such as club seats to sell them that you probably shouldn't have built them in the first place.
I don't recall Iowa having to discount club tickets but I am sure you will give us a link that proves otherwise.
This poses a question. I don't respond to him....but does posting in the same thread constitue a response?
Oh look LC ignores again. It makes sense for clone fans to ignore what they don't like. Better to ignore than admit isu is well isu.
Do you know this for sure? I haven't heard any announcements about ticket sales. There are more tickets to sell this year with the expansion in the south endzone. Those 3 packs were for seats that didn't exist last year.
Pollards newest billboard. "Come to isu where we have more enrollment than Iowa but will spend less on your education than they will."
I win.
How did they sell hillside seats in the past? Was it just as a single game ticket?
Do I know for sure? Nope. I don't know much of anything for sure.
But can you recall a year when sales were good and the AD didn't issue press release(s) about it? This year we've seen nothing like that.
They sold season tickets for the hillside -- which weren't seats, but I know what you mean. I don't recall how much they cost. I'm thinking $99 but I'm not sure. And there also were part of the Li'l Cyclone package, I think.
Friend and his 2 sons got hillside for $99 a piece. His boys were teens so not sure if cheaper for little kids. Said best value cause half the games could move to the stands with some empty seats available near people he knew. Probably smart move to do it that way. Save lot of $
Wait so isu sold discounted season tickets for seats that don't exist and yet claimed a record?
Why would anyone in their right mind laugh at that right LC. But do tell us how it really is. Or continue to ignore because you can't defend it
I win.
Yup. Just like buying cheap seats anywhere and moving to better ones if they're empty.
I said end zone standing room was sold as season tickets last year. It was. It also was sold on a game-by-game basis. Same as most of the rest of the stadium. Maybe I misunderstood your question.
The seats Psyclone is talking about did not exist last year.
Incidentally, 89/100/jwr/whatever just illustrated why I don't put him on "ignore." I wouldn't want to miss gems like claiming that selling more tickets than you have seats is a sign of a weak program.
Making sure we don't get too caught up in the word game 'more tickets to sell this year' I believe this is inaccurate, those 'seats' did not exist last year is true but was there a cap on the hillside season tickets for sale last or in previous years? With no 'seats' there my guess is they would sell as many they realistically could fit in there and a little more. So hang your hat on the physical 'seat' aspect if you like but the number of tickets for sale may have actually gone down some this year.
Actually LC claiming a record when you discount season tickets is something isu does that should be laughed at. The best was the cheesy thermometer Pollard had.
But the newest billboard would take the cake. "Come to isu where we have more enrollment than Iowa but will spend less on your education."
LC will set us straight. He won't officially reply because he "knows" better.
Maybe I4 will set us straight. I am betting neither can tell us how it really is.
I think we're talking about two different things.
1. There were no seats in the SEZ last season or the season before. There was standing room. Ergo, any seats that are there this season did not exist last year.
2. Up until about 10 years ago, give or take a few years, the official capacity of the stadium did not include standing room. This is why some Hawkeye fans ridiculed ISU for saying its attendance was more than 100% of capacity. I don't know if the school started including standing room because it was told to do so by the NCAA or if somebody just decided to do it, but that "increased" the official capacity.
3. They did have a cap on standing room. I do not know what it was, but it shouldn't be too hard to figure if anybody thought it was worth the effort. I'd guess it was around 14,000 for both end zones. There were games when it was impossible to buy a ticket; ergo, there was a cap on the number of standing-room tickets sold.
4. The number of tickets for sale this year is larger than it has ever been by about 4,500. This is obvious from the official capacity number.
We agree that there were no seats in that area previously. Can we agree that for that specific area tickets have been sold in the past? Whether it was for the new 'seats' or for the grass hillside, either way season tickets were available for that space. A question how many total tickets are for sale this year? Not necessarily 'seats' but total tickets allowed to be sold.
There were seats in the SEZ last year for isu. They were temporary seats. Then again according to LC not both guards isu took from MSU were tossed off the team there.
Of course he won't officially reply because he has no answer for his ineptitude.
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