The state's flagship university is experiencing unprecedented growth. This "flood" of student enrollment helps ensure said popular university remains an academic leader.
Little brother not so little anymore?
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100, it appears your brain is caught in a serious loop. Your current medication dosage is not correcting your problem...... So dose up!
Who is 100? Chalk up another clone fan that can't answer a simple question.
isu isn't and never will be the flagship University in Iowa. Especially when they spend less on education than Iowa despite having a larger enrollment.
But feel free to prove otherwise. You can start with US News and World Report rankings.
Good luck. I bet we will see another clone fan who will ignore.
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Why does the answer to the question change depending on what forum it is on?
Why does isu spend less on their students' education than Iowa does even though isu has more enrollment?
What enrollment game? Exactly how is ISU forcing kids to choose them over Iowa? You have to remember, 75% of the kids that get acceptance letters from Iowa, turn Iowa DOWN!
Hey CeMar do you and your crack isu Business school understand the difference between Revenue and Expense? I know how massive this basic concept must be for you but I will do my best to help you out.
If you look at the Board of Regents Budgets you will see that Iowa will SPEND more on education than isu will despite having lower enrollment. Now yes you can't spend what you don't bring in but then again the difference between Iowa and little bro isu when it comes to the state appropriation doesn't account for the $100m difference.
But feel free to tell the world how I and the BOR have this all wrong. That is always good for a laugh.
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Um it isn't hard to see that ISU is trying to find ways to sell tickets and its working. No one is disputing they have been crappy lately and that brings interest down. So you're still butthurt that ISU's marketing is working and Iowa's isn't?
The point has been Is It, that if isu is so awesome as you and other clone fans claim they wouldn't be selling club seats as single game tickets. isu would have all the club sections sold as season tickets. That is what Iowa does and has had a waiting list for all of our club seats and has since they were put in. But of course we must ignore that part right?
If I was a revenue bond holder of the new isu end zone I would be very nervous that isu is selling single game tickets right out of the gate. While it is better than having un-sold seats, without a backlog the chance of financial issues rises.
But of course by all means Is It, do tell the world how wrong it is for bond holders to worry about their investment and just jump for joy at isu selling single game tickets in the club section. Always entertaining.
http://thegazette.com/subject/news/iowa-board-of-regents-to-review-admission-gauge-20140803
According to regent documents, the UI in 2013 admitted 20.8 percent of its applicants with scores below 245 — or 237 students — while ISU admitted 36.9 percent of its low scoring applicants — or 526 students — and UNI admitted 79.6 percent — or 367 students.
According to regent documents, the UI in 2013 admitted 20.8 percent of its applicants with scores below 245 — or 237 students — while ISU admitted 36.9 percent of its low scoring applicants — or 526 students — and UNI admitted 79.6 percent — or 367 students.
http://thegazette.com/subject/opini...-process-that-produced-flawed-result-20140615
Admissions offices are allowed some discretion in granting policy exceptions. In the last four years, ISU and UNI have admitted more than 2,000 students below the Regents Admissions Index standard. The UI has admitted 231.
Admissions offices are allowed some discretion in granting policy exceptions. In the last four years, ISU and UNI have admitted more than 2,000 students below the Regents Admissions Index standard. The UI has admitted 231.
Hey Is It, CeMar, I4, LC or Clonecry,
Make sure you post a link that proves the Gazette is all wrong and isu has the strictest of admission standards. Tell us how isu doesn't accept sub-standard students to boost enrollment. Also tell us how it is that isu doesn't spend less on those students admitted than Iowa does. I am betting we get nothing but crickets from clone fans.
Oh that is right using facts isn't playing fair when dealing with clone fans.
Make sure you post a link that proves the Gazette is all wrong and isu has the strictest of admission standards. Tell us how isu doesn't accept sub-standard students to boost enrollment. Also tell us how it is that isu doesn't spend less on those students admitted than Iowa does. I am betting we get nothing but crickets from clone fans.
Oh that is right using facts isn't playing fair when dealing with clone fans.
I have a feeling that Pollard himself is involved in some of this. I mean the with the tweets he puts forth he takes a lot of pride in enrollment and how well his discounted ticket programs work.
Seems like a new motto at isu. "At isu it is all about the Marketing. Volume is all that matters, just ignore what changes were made to drive the volume".
Tell us how it really is clone fans we won't laugh really.
http://thegazette.com/subject/news/iowa-board-of-regents-to-review-admission-gauge-20140803
Found this very easy to read and understand. Maybe some of the previous posters should try.
Found this very easy to read and understand. Maybe some of the previous posters should try.
Yep isu admits differently than Iowa. They take many more substandard students. Still waiting for isu fans to tell us why isu has more enrollment but spends less than Iowa on their students educations.
Be sure to tell us I4.
That figure was bogus and was later debunked because of the way SUI compiled its numbers. The Regents told SUI to find a more accurate way, like the other two schools use, to make the determination.
Nothing that doesn't involve Dick, Jane and Spot is easy for some of these posters to read. They did, for the most part, go to Iowa.
Don't break down their glass houses. Loved the uni president calling out iowa for once again lying about their numbers etc...
Too funny.
Called it. When it doesn't fit LC's agenda it is bunk. Still waiting for any clone fan to tell us why isu spends less on educating their students than Iowa does despite having more enrollment.
Crickets farm LC just watch. Who wants to bet?
Pollard will have isu selling 100,000 season tickets with his bogus accounting.
Iowa State is trying to be the most relevant school in the state, more Iowa kids and increasing enrollment.
Iowa is the premiere school in the state and does not have to do these things.
What's to argue about?
Sadly, it may be working with the Iowa kids, as a lot of my friends are ISU grads.
Iowa is the premiere school in the state and does not have to do these things.
What's to argue about?
Sadly, it may be working with the Iowa kids, as a lot of my friends are ISU grads.
You just described the little brother syndrome that dominates the isu psyche. They just can't help it.
So an article that says there is no way to know proves what? Did I miss where they said the %'s would be similar or different? So simplify it for me because I am getting a 'can't tell because they account for things differently' vibe from it. I am surprised somebody hasn't put that fancy ciphering that them there smart schools came up with and applied it to Iowa admissions. Wonder if that information is out there and hasn't been presented here yet.
You are getting the proper vibe: The practices of the three universities cannot be compared because Iowa doesn't account for applicants from high schools that don't rank graduating classes.
It's possible Iowa doesn't admit as high a percentage of non-mandatory applicants as ISU; it's also possible Iowa admits a higher percentage. There's no way to tell. The Regents think it would be valuable to know, so they have asked SUI to provide a number. Until that happens, nobody can say one school admits more or fewer of the applicants under discussion.
What isn't debatable is that while isu has more enrollment than Iowa they spend substantially less to educate their students than Iowa does. You would think such a fine upstanding "journalist" would be doing his best to figure out why.
Naw clone fans with little brother syndrome just ignore that part. For them it is better to argue how many trees are in the "Forrest" and not the "Forrest" itself.
Iowa isn't the premier school in the state...where did you read that? The state of Iowa has two flagship Universities: ISU and Iowa. Just like the state of Texas has two flagships: aTm and U of Texas-Austin. And just like California: UCLA and Cal-Berkley. And the state of Indiana: Purdue and U of Indiana.
Congratulations on having the medical/dental and law schools, but that doesn't make a state University the premier school. ISU and Iowa are both Tier 1 research universities and members of the prestigious Association of Amercan Universities. Both ISU and Iowa fit the profile of a state flagship institution.
Iowa dominates isu when it comes to research. isu dominates in spending less on educating its students while having more enrollment than Iowa.
I am still waiting for a clone fan to tell us how this is wrong.
Bueller.....Bueller..........anyone?
The only things isu dominates is with their little brother syndrome.
This thread is all the proof that is needed. More I say we want more. We want more. We want more.
Maybe Iowa should put some of our hundreds of millions of dollars in additional research funding to use to help clone fans with a little bro med. Naw watching them ignore is just too much fun.
By your logic, if Iowa is so awesome, why aren't they sold out every game? why was ONLY the Iowa game sold out last year Jeffy boy?
Not even sure of what it is you are trying to blurt out here, isit...
But, if your point is about selling out football venues then you are even dumber than I might have given you credit for previously. Any time you want to compare/contrast Iowa and Kinnick Stadium versus isu and Jack Trioce, simply say the word.
Iowa is awesome because we don't have to sell our club seats as single game tickets. To investors that put up the money to build large capital projects that is a big deal. Now clearly isu's business college is so inept that this simple concept flies right over your head but hey go ahead and tell us how straight forward investment risk concepts don't apply to little bro isu?
We eagerly await your witty and highly accurate reply. Who wants to bet Is It nor any clone fan will be able to answer this?
Not even sure of what it is you are trying to blurt out here, isit...
But, if your point is about selling out football venues then you are even dumber than I might have given you credit for previously. Any time you want to compare/contrast Iowa and Kinnick Stadium versus isu and Jack Trioce, simply say the word.
nice try little yipper.
JWR is just mad that ISU is still selling tickets based on their marketing (whether you like it or not) yet Iowa's season ticket sales are down. Yet he's always claimed Iowa fans are better in every way shape or form, so why can't he explain why Iowa doesn't sell out every game? Why was only the Iowa State game a sellout last year?
Iowa has established club seating and good for them if they can sell them out as season tickets. ISU's club seating is new and they're going to have to market it and find ways to fill it up as we've all agreed the product on the field has sucked so fans are less likely to shell the money out.
Now answer my question - why doesn't Iowa sellout every game for all seats if they're so awesome?
You didn't answer the question. Nothing new there. Clone fans always ignore what they don't like.
So again if isu is so awesome then why can't they sell their puny little club section as season tickets and better yet why are basic financial rules of investing to be ignored by isu?
I can keep asking just as I keep asking why isu spends less to educate their students than Iowa does despite having more enrollment?
Can Is It answer the questions or will he dodge yet again? I am betting he will demand I answer his question him only to refuse to do the same. Wait for it, wait for it.........
And you are your typical dimwit self to even try to compare the two programs in terms of support.
Were North Dakota State and Kansas State the only games sold out at Jack Trice in 2014? Does that imply that ND State and/or K-State fans are somehow superior to isu fans? Why can't isu sell out more games (every game would be too much of a stretch to even try to mock on a message board) in Ames? All we have heard is how the enrollment is soaring and that isu is located near a population center (Des Moines) that it controls - what is holding isu back for the last 40 years of Jack Trice existence?
There were once again over 100,000 more people that attended (or paid to attend) a game at Kinnick last season than at Trice. How do you explain that? Iowa was ranked by the NCAA as a top twenty school for football attendance in 2014. Where was mighty isu?
List the top ten games, by attendance ever in Jack Trice history. How many of those games involve a big 8/big xii opponent? Did the game against then top rated Okie State in 2011 sell out (were there drastically reduced price tickets sold for that very game to attempt to induce the sell out?)
Once again, you post first without thinking... what a surprise!
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Who is JWR?
Why would anyone be mad that isu dupes its fans and they eat it up? Why would anyone be mad that isu can't seem to sell its puny little club section as season tickets? Why would anyone be mad that isu loves to trumpet having more enrollment but will ignore that isu spends less on educating their students than Iowa does?
No one is mad about isu's little bro tactics Is It, I and others are laughing at them and how clone fans can't quite grasp it when they are being duped.
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