Little brother not so little anymore?

[tazclone]

According to the isu web site if you are aged 20-29 the cost is $275.

How many of those are sold?

You are really reaching. funny how when the numbers get presented, you backpedal like a little bitch, redirect. Tell your professor/bartender it isn't 1980 anymore. It isn't even 2011 when iSu was selling $99 season tickets. Times have changed. I know when you sit at a barstool all day in your hayden fry 1980 polyester jackect it seems like ttimes don't.

 

[theIowaHawk]

Would you two stop bickering, I'm trying to ask real questions here.

 

[theIowaHawk]

Got it:

 

[jason33]

Is that all the way up? Surprised, if accurate.

My 2 seats are in the lower level, 28 rows up from the field, 25 yard line. The upper level 25 yard line might be a $500 donation plus price of the two tickets...not for sure. I believe that's correct, though.

 

[89and91]

How many of those are sold?

You are really reaching. funny how when the numbers get presented, you backpedal like a little bitch, redirect. Tell your professor/bartender it isn't 1980 anymore. It isn't even 2011 when iSu was selling $99 season tickets. Times have changed. I know when you sit at a barstool all day in your hayden fry 1980 polyester jackect it seems like ttimes don't.

I am just reading what the isu web site states. I don't know how many are sold at the $275 price point. My guess is you don't know either or you would have already stated it. I was just beating you down with your own example. So far your numbers are showing what I have said all along. Was basic math different in the 1980's or was $395 more than $375 back then too?

 

[theIowaHawk]

My 2 seats are in the lower level, 28 rows up from the field, 25 yard line. The upper level 25 yard line might be a $500 donation plus price of the two tickets...not for sure. I believe that's correct, though.

Yeah, they certainly make it complicated, but looks like for the 25 yard line it is $1000 for lower, $500 for mid and $250 for upper.

BUT that is for the possibility of 4, not per seat. At least how I read it. So for 1 you get raped ($1,425/ticket), for 4 it is $2,700 (675/ticket). Comparing to Kinnick, for fun, four 25yardline seats in the section all the way up would be $3,180 ($795/ticket). But one would be much more reasonable than Trice at $795/ticket.

 

[89and91]

Got it:

Of course that doesn't apply to those aged 20-29 as they only pay $275 for a season ticket.

 

[theIowaHawk]

Of course that doesn't apply to those aged 20-29 as they only pay $275 for a season ticket.

I think that is a great plan, one Iowa should seriously consider adopting.

Maybe even more of a tiered plan: Graduates + 4 years for $150, 5-8 years at $275, that would put most around age 30 and would be dug in to the program.

 

[Lone Clone]

• Season tickets available in 55 sections including the new endzone club section
• 30 of those sections are $425+ donation
• 6 of the 30 are $100 donation+ $425
• 3 of the 30 are $250 donation +$425
• 7 of the 30 are $500 donation +$425
• 6 of the 30 are $1000 donation + $425
• 4 of the 30 are $2500 donation+$425
• 4 of the 30 are $5000 donation+$425
• 3 endzone club sections are $500 donation +$750
• 14 sections are $250
• 8 sections are $175

So at least 60%, 33 out of 55 sections, are higher cost than iowa. The other 30% (smaller sections so closer to 25%) are less expensive than iowa.

It would be interesting to see an actual cost per seat breakdown. I am sure JRhok/89/91 has that for me

You left out the club section on the east side, taz. I think there are about 400 seats there.

$5,000 annual donation plus $1,500 per ticket. But you get free popcorn.
I don't know what the suites on the west side cost.

 

[Lone Clone]

What was last year? 45k average?

I think last year was a little over 52K average.

As for ticket sales this year, they haven't said much, which is consistent with my assumption that sales will not match those of the last couple of years. The AD is not shy about issuing press releases when sales are exceptionally good, and he hasn't issued any press releases. The last I saw was in late May, quoting Pollard as saying he was expecting season ticket sales in the high 30s, which would be down a few thousand from last season.

Obviously, back-to-back seasons of 2-10 and 3-9 have a lot to do with that, but so does the fact that 2013 and 2014 were record-setting years. Having both UNI and Iowa at home will help, as will curiosity about the endzone project. If the team isn't winning and the weather is bad, a lot of those season tickets won't get used, or won't get used in the second halves of games.

 

[theIowaHawk]

I think last year was a little over 52K average.

As for ticket sales this year, they haven't said much, which is consistent with my assumption that sales will not match those of the last couple of years. The AD is not shy about issuing press releases when sales are exceptionally good, and he hasn't issued any press releases. The last I saw was in late May, quoting Pollard as saying he was expecting season ticket sales in the high 30s, which would be down a few thousand from last season.

Obviously, back-to-back seasons of 2-10 and 3-9 have a lot to do with that, but so does the fact that 2013 and 2014 were record-setting years. Having both UNI and Iowa at home will help, as will curiosity about the endzone project. If the team isn't winning and the weather is bad, a lot of those season tickets won't get used, or won't get used in the second halves of games.

Unfortunate, but expected. I, for one, hope they start 5-2, but there might not be many fans to watch a 1-2 team play Kansas.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Taz I don't know what you're arguing about with our fans but it sounds like your favorite school is overcharging for the product on the field. If you take pride in that then that's fine because it's your money you're wasting, whether your fans think they're wasting it or not.

But that's just my two cents regardless of what you have to say about Iowa, which is something you can deal with........

Now I'd kindly ask that you......

 

[Psyclone]

What does that have to do with isu discounting season tickets in sections to the general public? Iowa doesn't do that and yet isu fans can't grasp the difference.

ISU has different price points for different sections.

 

[89and91]

You left out the club section on the east side, taz. I think there are about 400 seats there.

$5,000 annual donation plus $1,500 per ticket. But you get free popcorn.
I don't know what the suites on the west side cost.

ISU has different price points for different sections.

isu has different price points according to age as well.

 

[Psyclone]

Simple it was takes more than two discounted


At $175 isu needs to sell 2 season tickets to the one Iowa sells at $395. Simple math tells me they can do it with a smaller stadium.

So again isu discounts season tickets which reduces revenue but trumpets a meaningless volumes figure and clone fans buy it hook line and sinker.

So using your math and marketing genius, how many season tickets at the $750 price point does ISU need to sell for every Iowa $395 season ticket?

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

ISU went 2-10 last season. give me a flippin' break. when Iowa goes 2-10 let me know.

 

[jason33]

Yeah, they certainly make it complicated, but looks like for the 25 yard line it is $1000 for lower, $500 for mid and $250 for upper.

BUT that is for the possibility of 4, not per seat. At least how I read it. So for 1 you get raped ($1,425/ticket), for 4 it is $2,700 (675/ticket). Comparing to Kinnick, for fun, four 25yardline seats in the section all the way up would be $3,180 ($795/ticket). But one would be much more reasonable than Trice at $795/ticket.

You're absolutely correct. IIRC, my donation level allows me to buy up to 4 seats in the Gold ($1,000/yr) section, which is only $250/seat per year donation. If I wanted more than 4 season tickets, those additional seats would be in the non-donor sections...again, IIRC. I was off on my original calc...tickets are now $425/season...

 

[89and91]

So using your math and marketing genius, how many season tickets at the $750 price point does ISU need to sell for every Iowa $395 season ticket?

isu can't sell enough season tickets at $750 each to make up for all the tickets that are priced below Iowa's $395. There isn't enough capacity in those sections to offset Iowa's higher capacity across all of the general public seats at Kinnick.

But no worries as clone fans are great at the new math that didn't exist in the 1980's. At least according to Taz that is.

 

[theIowaHawk]

You're absolutely correct. IIRC, my donation level allows me to buy up to 4 seats in the Gold ($1,000/yr) section, which is only $250/seat per year donation. If I wanted more than 4 season tickets, those additional seats would be in the non-donor sections...again, IIRC. I was off on my original calc...tickets are now $425/season...

Not that it matters, but I think I read that you could request 4 more, and would have to donate 25% more, so another 250 total, which brings down the per ticket cost even more. So, in reality, get 8 and split it amongst friends.

 

[jason33]

Not that it matters, but I think I read that you could request 4 more, and would have to donate 25% more, so another 250 total, which brings down the per ticket cost even more. So, in reality, get 8 and split it amongst friends.

Yeah, that could very well be. 2 is enough for now.,.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

I'll take the over....with the same 4 posters making 90% of the posts

This thread delivers!

 

[Lone Clone]

Not that it matters, but I think I read that you could request 4 more, and would have to donate 25% more, so another 250 total, which brings down the per ticket cost even more. So, in reality, get 8 and split it amongst friends.

They might have anticipated such a move. I know that in the Club Section at ISU, if you want to buy more than four, you have to pledge another $5,000.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

Yeah, Iowa has cheaper seats on the 25 yard line...I pay $1,000 donation + $950 for my 2 seats on the 25 yard line at Jack Trice. That's still more than the total cost for 2 seats on the Kinnick 25 yard line. I actually assumed Kinnick was more expensive.

Wow you are paying just under $140 for each seat per game to sit at the 25 for ISU Football. That maybe the biggest rip off in all of college football...

If I was paying $140 for an ISU football game I'd expect to be sitting in a lazy boy chair at the 50 yard with a cooler of beer next to me and still would consider that's over priced.

 

[tazclone]

I'm not sure what you mean. Kinnick seats 70,585, multiplying that x $395 (which is wrong, students are less, staff are less, boxes are done differently) is just under $4M, but again, those seats costs are wrong. I read, but don't have a cite, that Iowa home games are ~$5M. Take it for whatever that is worth.

I went with 67,512 because that was the average attendance last year

 

[tazclone]

Taz I don't know what you're arguing about with our fans but it sounds like your favorite school is overcharging for the product on the field. If you take pride in that then that's fine because it's your money you're wasting, whether your fans think they're wasting it or not.

But that's just my two cents regardless of what you have to say about Iowa, which is something you can deal with........

Now I'd kindly ask that you......

jr/89/91 is claiming the only reason iSu sells 40K+ in season tickets is because we sell low cost season tickets.

The OP is asking is iowa should be worried about iSu because iSu expanded the stadium and it looked impressive to the OP. jrhok/89/91 is saying no because we sell $99 season tickets, which is a lie. Then he went with iSu season tickets are cheaper than iowa, which is patently false for about 80% of the season tickets iSu sells. 80% because 80% of the season tickets iSu sells are in the $425+donation category.

If iSu sells a similar amount of season tickets this year as last year and iowa's numbers stay where they are project, iSu could actually beat iowa in season ticket sales for the first time in decades. That is absolutely crazy considering iSu just came off a 2-10 season and went 5-19 the last two seasons. And unlike jrhok/89/91 is trying to claim...it isn't due to $99 season tickets ore greatly reduced season tickets. It is due to a tiered ticket structure that offers different options and averages out to pretty much the same cost per season ticket as iowa.

As for overpaying, football is entertainment. I think iSu fans view their entertainment as a day long adventure spent with friends. So while jrhok/89/91 laughs at parking it is part of the whole product. The product on the field definitely does not live up to the price tag but I think the iSU fan support shows a very base group that will not dwindle in down times and shows great potential for growth if the team has success.

 

[tazclone]

Of course that doesn't apply to those aged 20-29 as they only pay $275 for a season ticket.

How many of those are sold?

 

[tazclone]

I am just reading what the isu web site states. I don't know how many are sold at the $275 price point. My guess is you don't know either or you would have already stated it. I was just beating you down with your own example. So far your numbers are showing what I have said all along. Was basic math different in the 1980's or was $395 more than $375 back then too?

Basic math does not include required donations which has been demonstrated that iSU has much higher requirements. My basic math was showing that you are an idiot and I didn't even need to include the donations and parking fees to do so.

As someone that sits in Trice six times a year, the % of those tickets being sold to 20-29 years olds is very low

 

[tazclone]

I am just reading what the isu web site states. I don't know how many are sold at the $275 price point. My guess is you don't know either or you would have already stated it. I was just beating you down with your own example. So far your numbers are showing what I have said all along. Was basic math different in the 1980's or was $395 more than $375 back then too?

As you have proven time and time again, your reading comprehension is that of a 9 year old

 

[tazclone]

Yeah, they certainly make it complicated, but looks like for the 25 yard line it is $1000 for lower, $500 for mid and $250 for upper.

BUT that is for the possibility of 4, not per seat. At least how I read it. So for 1 you get raped ($1,425/ticket), for 4 it is $2,700 (675/ticket). Comparing to Kinnick, for fun, four 25yardline seats in the section all the way up would be $3,180 ($795/ticket). But one would be much more reasonable than Trice at $795/ticket.

So at Kinnick the donation is per seat or can you make one donation and get two seats?

 

[ST8TAILG8R]

You can say the drop in ticket sales is in line with a National trend or you can come to reality that nobody wants to pay up for these shit show home schedules.

2015
Illinois State
Pitt
N. Texas
Illinois
Maryland
Minnesota
Purdue

2016
Miami (OH)
Iowa State
NDSU
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Michigan
Nebraska

BTW... when you look at the away games too no wonder Iowa's overall record has been considerably better. The schedule keeps getting tougher after adding the national powerhouses of Maryland and Rutgers. The solution to pollution is dilution. Winning in a league where most members are mediocre at best is like winning the Special Olympics.

Meanwhile, I will renew by two ISU season tickets ($2500 total cost for my current donation + seats) to watch:
2015
Nothern Iowa
Iowa
Kansas
TCU
Texas
Oklahoma State

2016
Northern Iowa
San Jose St.
Tx Tech
Baylor
Oklahoma
K State
W. Virginia

I have still not found one Hawk fan that would trade schedules with ISU year in and year out.

Carry on hawks... you have a lot of great things going on... mean while based on shear student body population you already are little brother (and it pains me to say that because it puts us in the same family).

 

[tazclone]

isu can't sell enough season tickets at $750 each to make up for all the tickets that are priced below Iowa's $395. There isn't enough capacity in those sections to offset Iowa's higher capacity across all of the general public seats at Kinnick.

But no worries as clone fans are great at the new math that didn't exist in the 1980's. At least according to Taz that is.

We are talking season tickets moron. Not total stadium. stay on topic and quit moving goal posts. The reality is for season ticket pricing, the total revenue is going to be very close when you consider donation requirements. iSu will probably be lower and should be lower based on the product on the field but your rambling about the only reason iSu can do it is to offer $99 season tickets is

1. A lie based on past season ticket pricing
2. a misrepresentation of reality

Of course, you think iowa's drop in season ticket sales has nothing to do with apathy so that proves what world you live in.

 

[hwksforlife]

The timing is perfect for Barta to cut the head off the snake. End the series Gary and that will bleed the annoying Juco in Ames out.

 

[tazclone]

So you assume all tickets are only sold to donors and not clone fans aged between 20-29? They don't pay $425 but only $275z.

Not drunk or stupid just reading what isu has on their web site. Do tell us though how it really is.

No, I think I have a better grasp of how many are sold than some drunk who sits at a bar all day

 

[tazclone]

The timing is perfect for Barta to cut the head off the snake. End the series Gary and that will bleed the annoying Juco in Ames out.

Would love for the series to end. We get nothing out of playing iowa. Win and it is expected and the iowa fans pour out the same sorry excuses. Lose and it is a loss to a mediocre team

 

[tazclone]

What it comes down to is what the OP was asking. Should iowa be worried. I have presented some reasons as to why but in the end...the only way iSu can catch up and overtake is if they win on the field. The potential is there but in the past, iSu has never been able to take advantage. They are poised but the product on the field has to change.
IF iSu can sustain 6-6 and 7-5 four a few years, the scale will tip. If history is any clue...iSu will trip on their own unit and miss the opportunity

 

[tazclone]

I think that is a great plan, one Iowa should seriously consider adopting.

Maybe even more of a tiered plan: Graduates + 4 years for $150, 5-8 years at $275, that would put most around age 30 and would be dug in to the program.

I think with iowa's reduced ticket sales, you will see Barta roll something out in the next couple of seasons. Espcially if KF goes 7-5 this year and still has a job

 

[ST8TAILG8R]

As an ISU fan I would trade our annual game with Iowa for Nebraska in a heartbeat. Lincoln > Iowa City. Memorial Stadium > Kinnick. Husker Fans > Tavern Hawks. The tailgating is even better in Lincoln now and they (supposedly) have a dry campus!

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Would love for the series to end. We get nothing out of playing iowa. Win and it is expected and the iowa fans pour out the same sorry excuses. Lose and it is a loss to a mediocre team

Just because you copy what Iowa fans say about the series doesn't make it true. But good effort. Expected, and obviously so, but good effort...

 

[ST8TAILG8R]

The timing is perfect for Barta to cut the head off the snake. End the series Gary and that will bleed the annoying Juco in Ames out.

This is the classic response to loosing 11 of the last 17. As if ISU's lifeblood is Iowa. Could you get more arrogant? Ha!

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

As an ISU fan I would trade our annual game with Iowa for Nebraska in a heartbeat. Lincoln > Iowa City. Memorial Stadium > Kinnick. Husker Fans > Tavern Hawks. The tailgating is even better in Lincoln now and they (supposedly) have a dry campus!

Yeah and think of all the Nebraska fans that will get to celebrate a win inside your own stadium bau every other year.

Good idea indeed.