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You Minnesota folks ought to take the talk as a compliment. Clearly, the volume and intensity is driven by frustration and a general lack of opportunity to throw shade on Iowa. Living in Ohio, the Hawkeyes are just another team, I look forward to the day when i am given a hard time by fans of Ohio $tate!
 
You really have no room to talk you are the true definition of troll. Funny don't see you posting here last few years when Gophers doing awful in bball or last 2 years after losing in football. But true definition of a grade A loser is to go to another teams board and gloat when you do better than them but disappear like a ghost when things go bad which is usually the case for Minny fans. Which you definitely fit that bill. Seriously your team is in the tourney enjoy it. Judas you'd think you'd have better or more positive things to do rather than troll around here or anywhere else. Or least troll your upcoming opponent.

I'm not sure where to begin.

I've posted here many, many times over the past 8-10 years, let alone "the last few years." I even have (gasp) a subscription to the Hawkeye Lounge and have posted there for probably almost 10 years.

Where, exactly, was I gloating about anything that Minnesota has done? Seriously, point it out? I guess defending 20 year old kids from being labeled as rapists, simply because they where a specific colored uniform that isn't black and gold is gloating.

Seriously, some people need some self inflection. Just take some deep breaths. You don't have to be defensive and defend "your posters." You've got people in here insinuating sexual assault against kids who, by all accounts and facts you could provide, didn't happen. And yet, I'M the troll and the problem here?

Does that make any sense to you? It's such a sad indictment of today's society I think.
 
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didn't their transfer center (the one that has made their season) sexually assault someone. That's a hell of a culture the gophers have up there in the twin cities.
Pitino will follow his fathers model of turning a blind eye to the rules while being devoid of values himself.


No, actually as was determined by Minneapolis police, the Hennepin County Prosecutors office and by the Title IX investigative office of the University of Minnesota (the same one that suspended the 10 football players)... he did not.

So again, slander kids names for simply playing for a different team than you cheer. That is the only thing I've argued against in this thread. And again, if you actually cared to follow facts, Pitino suspended the players last year for nothing more than a violation of the team code of conduct. They were never charged, accused or insinuated to have done anything illegal. Yet, he is "devoid of values."

And yet, you will sit here and openly slander kids and Pitino for his name and the school the play/work for. Whose values should really be examined here?
 
We did complete one of the best troll jobs of all time

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Stuff like this is awesome, in-bounds and what a rivalry should be about. I applaud the gif. Iowa has certainly had more than their fair share of bragging rights on the football field in the near and not-so-distant past.

Calling kid rapists and saying a coach supports and develops that type of culture, devoid of supporting evidence, and ignorant of evidence to the contrary, I wish had no place in the rivalry or on message boards. I think it's a sad indictment of people that participate in those types of things.
 
I can handle it up here. Most the fans I run into think they will lose to Middle Tenn. they are enjoying their run but they are very cautious given their history in being successful and then laying a turd or being on probation.

I dislike MN as much as anyone. It's a good rivalry. Pitino was easy to take shots at the first 3 years, but I admit he's done a fine job this year and I enjoy his interviews on KFAN. He's realistic about this year and pokes fun at himself. I actually kind of like/respect the guy now. He took his lumps and is still standing.
 
Nobody here, including you, would be interested in facts. But the facts are that college kids had consensual sex with a woman and video taped it. One of their phones was stolen and 4 seconds (roughly) of the video was posted. It was immediately taken down. One person was shown in the video.

Pitino chose to suspend 3 players for four games because he thought it wasnt representative of the program he wanted. If not for that, two of the players would have never been connected to the video and could have extremely easily been swept under the rug. Because of that approach, he gets the label as a problem "culture" which is funny because if it wasn't for the strict discipline the outward appearance of the program would have been one "rogue" player. But because he chose a tougher discipline he gets labeled a program out of control for, again, consensual college sex.

But it's more sensational to,label it as the previous poster did.
I believe request for facts was about the football gang rape. Yes. It was a gang rape.

Sure it sounds like it started as consensual between two or three people but soon after other gopher football players and a recruit joined in against her will.
 
My point is that both were actually very trivial events. One had kids miss 4 games the other zero. I'm not sure any of them should have missed any games.

The Pierce situation is not comparable. That was sexual assault. The Gopher basketball players were never charged, investigated or even insinuated of a crime. They were suspended for moral behavior.

So I actually think they are comparable. And again, I couldn't care less that Jok didn't miss any games. I don't really think he should have.
The gang rape by the football team was not trivial. So much so that your football coach was fired
 
I believe request for facts was about the football gang rape. Yes. It was a gang rape.

Sure it sounds like it started as consensual between two or three people but soon after other gopher football players and a recruit joined in against her will.

No, the original post I responded to made absolutely no mention of the football incident. I said the facts he was citing about the bball incident were incorrect. It's all there to read if you'd like.

The football incident is a completely different situation and has nothing to do with what I was referencing in this thread or the names of individuals mentioned in this thread by the original post to which I took exception.

After that post, the OP to which I responded try to loop the football situation in saying it was all the same thing, which it is 100% unequivocally not and is just another example of being careless, lazy and transparent in propagating rumors that can be very damaging to people who are just kids playing sports. And I don't get other posters going out of the way to try and justify it.
 
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No, the original post I responded to made absolutely no mention of the football incident. I said the facts he was citing about the bball incident were incorrect. It's all there to read if you'd like.

The football incident is a completely different situation and has nothing to do with what I was referencing in this thread or the names of individuals mentioned in this thread by the original post to which I took exception.

After that post, the OP to which I responded try to loop the football situation in saying it was all the same thing, which it is 100% unequivocally not and is just another example of being careless, lazy and transparent in propagating rumors that can be very damaging to people who are just kids playing sports. And I don't get other posters going out of the way to try and justify it.
I read the report, if you are ok with that, then you are an a-hole. It certainly made the police and da in minneapolis look like they did sloppy work. You see this mob mentality frequently, they can't catch us all. It may start off as harmless but certainly doesn't always end that way.
the same can be said of the second investigation. There is a big difference between criminal and having people represent your university of more than questionable character. The gophers seem to be overflowing with both.
 
They didn't post it on twitter.

How many games did Jok miss for drunk driving? Terrible culture. Kind of a dumb game isn't it?
Really, drunk driving. Not very smart perhaps, but its not like he was driving a car. Don't think he would have killed anyone but himself on that moped. Nice job of singling out an incident at Iowa, and comparing in to the number of sexual assault and deviant behavior going on at Minny involving football and basketball players as well as administrators! So who exactly is running the ship up north there Rube?
 
I read the report, if you are ok with that, then you are an a-hole. It certainly made the police and da in minneapolis look like they did sloppy work. You see this mob mentality frequently, they can't catch us all. It may start off as harmless but certainly doesn't always end that way.
the same can be said of the second investigation. There is a big difference between criminal and having people represent your university of more than questionable character. The gophers seem to be overflowing with both.

Dear lord, reading is getting hard. I haven't commented on the football situation and I don't intend too.

Everything I've commented on had to do with the original post about Richard Pitino and the basketball team.

Stop trying so hard guys.
 
Nate Mason and their other starting guard are class acts! They invite women over, have sex, videotape it and post it on Twitter! I am surprised they only got a 4 game suspension at the end of last season.

What a culture they have in the Minnesota Athletics department.

Goofer fans have to be very, very proud.

I will resist any comments about public sex acts. I am actually happy to see a post like this. It means the basketball team is actually relevant this season. Go win the NIT!
 
Really, drunk driving. Not very smart perhaps, but its not like he was driving a car. Don't think he would have killed anyone but himself on that moped. Nice job of singling out an incident at Iowa, and comparing in to the number of sexual assault and deviant behavior going on at Minny involving football and basketball players as well as administrators! So who exactly is running the ship up north there Rube?

Your rush to post gets in way of reason. Read more of the thread and my posts Chief. I don't think Jok should have missed games. That's not my point at all. I hope he learned from his mistakes and goes on to lead an amazing and successful life. As I do with almost all kids who make immature decisions in life.

People try so, so hard just because it's another team with different colored jerseys. I just don't get it.
 
Your rush to post gets in way of reason. Read more of the thread and my posts Chief. I don't think Jok should have missed games. That's not my point at all. I hope he learned from his mistakes and goes on to lead an amazing and successful life. As I do with almost all kids who make immature decisions in life.

People try so, so hard just because it's another team with different colored jerseys. I just don't get it.
Your right I should have read more of the other posts. A true character flaw of mine I guess. You'd have to admit though its pretty funny how people think Iowa fans are obsessed my Minnesota. I mean here's a school who's fans chant "Who hates Iowa, We hate Iowa", at sporting events not involving Iowa. Can there be a more classic case of obsession than that?
 
Your right I should have read more of the other posts. A true character flaw of mine I guess. You'd have to admit though its pretty funny how people think Iowa fans are obsessed my Minnesota. I mean here's a school who's fans chant "Who hates Iowa, We hate Iowa", at sporting events not involving Iowa. Can there be a more classic case of obsession than that?

Where did I or anyone intimate that Iowa fans are obsessed with Minnesota?

People from Iowa put way, way too much stock into a silly chant. Is there a fun rivalry? Yes. Is there a "catchy," dumb, cliché chant that the students do at all Iowa games and even sometimes at other events? Yes. Do a small minority of fans take it too far as with any fanbase? Absolutely.

The truth is most of the fans don't give it any more thought than Iowa fans do about Minnesota, which is to say, it's like about any other rivalry that has a long history of back and forth.

The vast majority of Minnesota fans have a much, much more bitter, jealous and obsessive complex about Wisconsin frankly. It's not even close actually.
 
Where did I or anyone intimate that Iowa fans are obsessed with Minnesota?

People from Iowa put way, way too much stock into a silly chant. Is there a fun rivalry? Yes. Is there a "catchy," dumb, cliché chant that the students do at all Iowa games and even sometimes at other events? Yes. Do a small minority of fans take it too far as with any fanbase? Absolutely.

The truth is most of the fans don't give it any more thought than Iowa fans do about Minnesota, which is to say, it's like about any other rivalry that has a long history of back and forth.

The vast majority of Minnesota fans have a much, much more bitter, jealous and obsessive complex about Wisconsin frankly. It's not even close actually.
I'm sure your right. Its just a "catchy, fun rivalry". Can't remember ever seeing any school chant a we hate (name your school), at events when their playing another school. Must be a Minny thing I guess.
 
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I went to every single basketball game this year and heard it at exactly one game...Iowa.

The narrative that this gets chanted at other events more than occasionally is made up. Admittedly, it does happen on occasion, mostly other football games and usually in conjunction with an Iowa score being shown but not always. That's the unvarnished truth.

But, if the story of constant chanting adds to the rivalry, so be it.
 
I'm not sure where to begin.

I've posted here many, many times over the past 8-10 years, let alone "the last few years." I even have (gasp) a subscription to the Hawkeye Lounge and have posted there for probably almost 10 years.

Where, exactly, was I gloating about anything that Minnesota has done? Seriously, point it out? I guess defending 20 year old kids from being labeled as rapists, simply because they where a specific colored uniform that isn't black and gold is gloating.

Seriously, some people need some self inflection. Just take some deep breaths. You don't have to be defensive and defend "your posters." You've got people in here insinuating sexual assault against kids who, by all accounts and facts you could provide, didn't happen. And yet, I'M the troll and the problem here?

Does that make any sense to you? It's such a sad indictment of today's society I think.

I read your first sentence only. You simply should not have begun.

Get lost, loser. Go support your rapist football team and your basketball team that disrespects women by having 3 players involved with several women where the sex acts get recorded and then posted on Twitter. Those 3 players? Nate Mason and your other starter; the other guy left the program embarrassed.

Classless athletics programs. Extremely classless fan base.

No wonder they hate Iowa. We are always putting them in their place.
 
I went to every single basketball game this year and heard it at exactly one game...Iowa.

The narrative that this gets chanted at other events more than occasionally is made up. Admittedly, it does happen on occasion, mostly other football games and usually in conjunction with an Iowa score being shown but not always. That's the unvarnished truth.

But, if the story of constant chanting adds to the rivalry, so be it.

And now you are just lying. Do you ever state facts/the truth? Don't answer that. Go back to your Gopher Hole.
 
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See my other reply. I'm not advocating Joks suspension. I'm saying stretching the truth or being moral judge and jury in situations we know virtually no facts in the name of a school rivalry is pretty stupid. It's trivializing young students' lives. These are kids with real lives ahead of them.
I am sure the Girl who they all pulled the train on had a real life ahead of her too. Now she is just an after thought. Having no details about the story, but assuming if she was having sex with one of them she was not intending to be a group thing. If she was she was probley drunk. Regardless. I am sure all threes Moral compass is working well. Good luck to them in the tourney.
 
Right or wrong with the opposing team hate or rivalry I totally get. What I don't understand is defending "kids" who are 20-21-22 years old. So, when do they become men?
 
I went to every single basketball game this year and heard it at exactly one game...Iowa.

The narrative that this gets chanted at other events more than occasionally is made up. Admittedly, it does happen on occasion, mostly other football games and usually in conjunction with an Iowa score being shown but not always. That's the unvarnished truth.

But, if the story of constant chanting adds to the rivalry, so be it.
False! Was at the Arkansas State game and they started it in the second half! My gopher buddies said they also heard it at another non game.. and then as I mentioned earlier-- Minnesota vs Ohio State HOCKEY!
 
Sort of like Iowa football fans before big bowl games.

After the game you realize they were full of dung.
 
False! Was at the Arkansas State game and they started it in the second half! My gopher buddies said they also heard it at another non game.. and then as I mentioned earlier-- Minnesota vs Ohio State HOCKEY!

Let's pretend this was true, which could be but I was there and didn't hear anything. Be honest about it. How loud was it? How many students participated? How long did it last?

There couldn't have been more than 100 students at the Arkansas St game and that may be generous. (It was played 12/23, 2 days before Christmas.) So even if they did, which I doubt, I bet it lasted all of 4 seconds from about 10 kids. Iowa fans pretend every Minnesota fan walks around day and night dreaming of Iowa with a red hot hatred. It's just not the case. I don't know what else to tell you. 10 students doing a cheer for 4 seconds anytime, anywhere doesn't equate to much care in my book.

As for hockey, I don't go to the games so I can't comment.
 
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No offense but I don't believe you. Even if true, it couldn't have been much of a "cheer" because I didn't hear it. Not to mention, there couldn't have been more than 100 students at the Arkansas St game anyway. So even if they did, which I doubt, Iowa fans pretend every Minnesota fan walks around day and night dreaming of Iowa with a red hot hatred. It's just not the case. 10 students doing a cheer for 4 seconds anytime, anywhere doesn't equate to much care in my book.

As for hockey, I don't go to the games so I can't comment.

Have a friend who is Minnesota alum goes to most games. Says the 2 things he hates about Gopher football games is after every 1st down the announcer yelling "that's another minnesota, FIRST DOWN!" and when they do who do we hate, we hate Iowa chant. Said it maybe not every game but its down too much and has be done for multiple years. So in conclusion yes they do that stupid Iowa obsessed chant even when they aren't playing Iowa. Please tell me another school who does a negative chant against a school they aren't even playing.

By the way if you wish to defend your rapist players maybe you should try the Baylor or PSU boards where you may get some more sympathy.
 
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Have a friend who is Minnesota alum goes to most games. Says the 2 things he hates about Gopher football games is after every 1st down the announcer yelling "that's another minnesota, FIRST DOWN!" and when they do who do we hate, we hate Iowa chant. Said it maybe not every game but its down too much and has be done for multiple years. So in conclusion yes they do that stupid Iowa obsessed chant even when they aren't playing Iowa. Please tell me another school who does a negative chant against a school they aren't even playing.

By the way if you wish to defend your rapist players maybe you should try the Baylor or PSU boards where you may get some more sympathy.
Ouch!!Think that is meant for you Rube!!
 
Right or wrong with the opposing team hate or rivalry I totally get. What I don't understand is defending "kids" who are 20-21-22 years old. So, when do they become men?

Fair question.. Immature young men is probably a more accurate term but kids is easier to type. But it's a difficult question as well. Every "young adult" is different. They different upbringings, different family dynamics, different value systems, first time away from home. Far be it for me to stand 1000 miles away and pass judgment on young men I don't really know much of anything about.

And to point out, I'm not necessarily defending the kids' actions. I'm defending the spreading of inaccuracies as to the facts as we know them. If you want to state specific facts and make your judgments off those, so be it I guess, but to pass along misinformation (at best) or blatantly lie about young men (at worst) I think is unfair and I'd question that person as much or more than that kids themselves.
 
Fair question.. Immature young men is probably a more accurate term but kids is easier to type. But it's a difficult question as well. Every "young adult" is different. They different upbringings, different family dynamics, different value systems, first time away from home. Far be it for me to stand 1000 miles away and pass judgment on young men I don't really know much of anything about.

And to point out, I'm not necessarily defending the kids' actions. I'm defending the spreading of inaccuracies as to the facts as we know them. If you want to state specific facts and make your judgments off those, so be it I guess, but to pass along misinformation (at best) or blatantly lie about young men (at worst) I think is unfair and I'd question that person as much or more than that kids themselves.
I heard PETA is going to get involved.Horse has been beaten to death.
 
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Let's pretend this was true, which could be but I was there and didn't hear anything. Be honest about it. How loud was it? How many students participated? How long did it last?

There couldn't have been more than 100 students at the Arkansas St game and that may be generous. (It was played 12/23, 2 days before Christmas.) So even if they did, which I doubt, I bet it lasted all of 4 seconds from about 10 kids. Iowa fans pretend every Minnesota fan walks around day and night dreaming of Iowa with a red hot hatred. It's just not the case. I don't know what else to tell you. 10 students doing a cheer for 4 seconds anytime, anywhere doesn't equate to much care in my book.

As for hockey, I don't go to the games so I can't comment.
I was sitting adjacent to the students. It was the students and we heard it plenty loud. My father in law asked me what the heck that was about and I had to explain it to him however I couldn't because so it's unexplainably stupid..
 
False! Was at the Arkansas State game and they started it in the second half! My gopher buddies said they also heard it at another non game.. and then as I mentioned earlier-- Minnesota vs Ohio State HOCKEY!

Gopher Rube is a big @$$ liar. Now that he's been caught, where is he? Figures he would turn and run.
 
Can you imagine if Iowa fans chanted "Who hates Minny? We hate Minny!"

Will never happen. We will never lower ourselves to the level of their fan base.
 
Let's pretend this was true, which could be but I was there and didn't hear anything. Be honest about it. How loud was it? How many students participated? How long did it last?

There couldn't have been more than 100 students at the Arkansas St game and that may be generous. (It was played 12/23, 2 days before Christmas.) So even if they did, which I doubt, I bet it lasted all of 4 seconds from about 10 kids. Iowa fans pretend every Minnesota fan walks around day and night dreaming of Iowa with a red hot hatred. It's just not the case. I don't know what else to tell you. 10 students doing a cheer for 4 seconds anytime, anywhere doesn't equate to much care in my book.

As for hockey, I don't go to the games so I can't comment.

Again, I read your fist sentence and stopped. You use the word "truth." How ironic! You are a complete liar and are as bad as the liars on the football team who said the rape train they ran on one girl was consensual.
 
I was sitting adjacent to the students. It was the students and we heard it plenty loud. My father in law asked me what the heck that was about and I had to explain it to him however I couldn't because so it's unexplainably stupid..

Rube is an idiot. He has lied several times in this thread and he is defending rapists on his football team.

That says a lot about Rube.
 
No Gopher Football Players were ever accused of a criminal act of Rape at any point last year, or at least none of them were charged, or even arrested.

The Minneapolis Police Department and Left Wing DFL Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman have never been known for being incompetent or lazy when it comes to going after perps who commit acts of violence against women. They certainly do not sweep anything "under the rug.

The media completely mis-reported this story and a lot people were confused like some of you. Many think 10 players lined up and had sex with an unwilling woman. Most of the players did not have any physical contact with her at all.

The longer the story went on, the worse the "victim" looked. I do not know what "report" was referenced earlier, but any report created by trained criminal investigators completely exonerated the players. They determined in about a business day that no charges were warranted.

If anyone thinks the kangaroo courts that have sprung up since 2011 on campuses to enforce someone's vision of Title 9 justice are not a very bad thing, they need to read more about these types of inquisitions, and pray none of your son's ever get wrongly accused and sucked into one of these abusive processes.
 
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