Fing Vandy, Florida really did F us over pretty good, FDFDFDFDFDFDDFDFD!!!!!!!!
MARCH 12 Tournament Selection Show: Jerry Palm/CBS was CORRECT: IOWA was one of First 4 OUT
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wasn'f Flori-duh up big time in the game and Vandy came back?
There never has been a 15 loss team in the NCAA tournament. It appears that Vandy will break that record.
there is no March 6 update yet from Palm.
One thing I like is that on the CBS site you can compare 2 teams' resumes.
Check out the links here:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...tate-drops-out-of-picture-wisconsin-moves-up/
One thing I like is that on the CBS site you can compare 2 teams' resumes.
Check out the links here:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...tate-drops-out-of-picture-wisconsin-moves-up/
LOL; also, he must have slept in today? Everybody else seems to have an update for this morning.
Its fun to look at; its fun to see Iowa in the mix; Iowa just has to win games and take any doubt away.
If we lose on Thurs, we deserve the NIT.
If we lose on Friday, we might still have a shot at the Big Dance.
If we are playing on Saturday, we probably go dancing.
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Stewart MandelVerified account@slmandel 36m36 minutes ago
New Bracket tomorrow. In the meantime:
Last 8 In: VCU, Xavier, Wake, Prov, USC, Vandy, Ill St, Cuse
First 4 Out: K St, Iowa, Illinois, URI
Il St isn't getting in. K State needs to lose to Baylor. It is very close to us just needing to beat IU now!
New Bracket tomorrow. In the meantime:
Last 8 In: VCU, Xavier, Wake, Prov, USC, Vandy, Ill St, Cuse
First 4 Out: K St, Iowa, Illinois, URI
Its gonna be March Sadness for quite a few teams over the next 6 1/2 days
I think if we win 2 in the BTT we are definitely in. If we win just one, I think it's a flip of the coin.
Chad LeistikowVerified account@ChadLeistikow 18m18 minutes ago
Tom Crean on facing Iowa in D.C.: “We’re going to be playing one of the most dangerous teams, not only in the league but the country.”
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http://assemblycall.com/series/bracketology/
(#1 bracketologist according to matrix, and guest).
http://assemblycall.com/series/bracketology/
(#1 bracketologist according to matrix, and guest).
hopefully this 4 game winning streak has impressed the Selection Committee
and hopefully we look good in the BTT
never thought 2 weeks ago we would be knocking on the Big Dance door
Haha, serious what is his view of us as of NOW.We are favored to win the National championship
If Lunardi thinks the BIG is bad or down, which it is, then he needs to look at the MVC whence Ill St comes from. The BIG might be bad, but the MVC is absolute shit.
I also will echo what others have said and reply the reason Illinois is in and Iowa is out is because the Illini beat Iowa twice.
It comes down to DC. The young Hawks have a daunting task ahead of them. In the first game they get the "most" athletic team in the Big 10. They are a tough out and seem to have figured something out.
If they win, they get the most "veteran" ball club in the Big Ten in Wisky. They have experience and got a big win on Senior Day in Madison.
I am hopeful that having it be in a new venue will spell trouble for teams and the young hawks can sneak out a game or two.
At least our two best games happened in the eastern time zone! Also we are not playing at a funky time. Both games will be the same time (5:30). So hopefully we can catch some magic.
2 game season now.
If they win, they get the most "veteran" ball club in the Big Ten in Wisky. They have experience and got a big win on Senior Day in Madison.
I am hopeful that having it be in a new venue will spell trouble for teams and the young hawks can sneak out a game or two.
At least our two best games happened in the eastern time zone! Also we are not playing at a funky time. Both games will be the same time (5:30). So hopefully we can catch some magic.
2 game season now.
March 7 update:
Lunardi
Last 4 Byes:
Providence
Marquette
Syracuse
Vanderbilt
Last Four In:
Xavier
Wake Forest
USC
Illinois State
First Four Out:
Rhode Island
Kansas State
Illinois
Iowa
Link: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
USA Today
► No. 1 seeds: Kansas, Villanova, North Carolina and Oregon
► Last four in: Xavier, Illinois, Syracuse, USC
► First four out: Iowa, Georgia, Illinois State, Rhode Island
Moving in: Nebraska-Omaha
Moving out: South Dakota
► Others considered for at-large bids (in no particular order): Clemson, Ohio State, Kansas State
► On life support: Indiana, Houston
► Multi-bid conferences: ACC (10), Big Ten (8), Big East (7), Big 12 (5), SEC (5), Pac-12 (4), A-10 (2), AAC (2), WCC (2).
Link: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...asketball-march-madness-saint-marys/98842336/
Jerry Palm
Last four in: Wake Forest, Kansas State, California, Rhode Island
#1 Seeds: Kansas, Villanova, North Carolina, Gonzaga
First four out: Illinois, Vanderbilt, Syracuse, Illinois State
Link: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Lunardi
Last 4 Byes:
Providence
Marquette
Syracuse
Vanderbilt
Last Four In:
Xavier
Wake Forest
USC
Illinois State
First Four Out:
Rhode Island
Kansas State
Illinois
Iowa
Link: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
USA Today
► No. 1 seeds: Kansas, Villanova, North Carolina and Oregon
► Last four in: Xavier, Illinois, Syracuse, USC
► First four out: Iowa, Georgia, Illinois State, Rhode Island
Moving in: Nebraska-Omaha
Moving out: South Dakota
► Others considered for at-large bids (in no particular order): Clemson, Ohio State, Kansas State
► On life support: Indiana, Houston
► Multi-bid conferences: ACC (10), Big Ten (8), Big East (7), Big 12 (5), SEC (5), Pac-12 (4), A-10 (2), AAC (2), WCC (2).
Link: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...asketball-march-madness-saint-marys/98842336/
Jerry Palm
Last four in: Wake Forest, Kansas State, California, Rhode Island
#1 Seeds: Kansas, Villanova, North Carolina, Gonzaga
First four out: Illinois, Vanderbilt, Syracuse, Illinois State
Link: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Are those teams listed in order or just randomly (e.g. First Four/Last 4?). I'll say it again, we need to be YUGE Baylor fans to knock out KSU and sorry Ill St., you aren't getting in. Mich needs to kill two birds with one stone by beating Illinois, knocking them out and bumping Iowa's RPI and SOS. Rhode Island also has work to do and outside of a decent RPI their SOS and Top 50/100 wins are absent.
There are 19 Bubble teams we need to lose ASAP. Illinois State has already lost in their conference final to Wichita State.
What follows is a really good up to date summary by conference of the 19 teams not named "Iowa" that are on the bubble. Ideally, each of these 19 teams that are still alive in their conference tourneys gets blown out early.
It goes without saying but obviously we don't want some surprise team winning their Power 5 conference tournament.
College Basketball Bubble Watch
Updated: March 7, 2017, 8:53 AM ET
By Eamonn Brennan | ESPN.com
Entire analysis is here: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bubblewatch
Here is where Iowa is right now: Iowa [18-13 (10-8), RPI: 69, SOS: 46]
The 19 other Bubble Teams:
From American Athletic Conf
Houston [21-9 (12-6), RPI: 50, SOS: 66] .
Play Fri March 10, 8 pm
From Atlantic 10:
Rhode Island [21-9 (13-5), RPI: 42, SOS: 55]
Plays Fri March 10 (from what I can tell)
From ACC:
Syracuse [18-13 (10-8), RPI: 77, SOS: 61]
LOST to Miami (20-10) March 8 at 11 am CT
Wake Forest [18-12 (9-9), RPI: 28, SOS: 13]
BEAT Boston College (9-23) 92-78 on March 7
LOST to Va Tech (21-9) at 6 pm on March 8
Georgia Tech [17-14 (8-10), RPI: 95, SOS: 59]
LOST 61-59 in opening round to Pitt (16-16)
From Big 12:
Kansas State [19-12 (8-10), RPI: 58, SOS: 54]
Plays Baylor (25-6) on March 9 at 8 pm CT
From Big East:
Seton Hall [20-10 (10-8), RPI: 43, SOS: 58]
Plays Marquette (19-11) at 1:30 pm March 9
Providence [20-11 (10-8), RPI: 52, SOS: 50]
Plays Creighton (23-8) at 8:30 pm on March 9
Marquette [19-11 (10-8), RPI: 56, SOS: 57]
Plays Seton Hall (20-10) at 1:30 pm March 9
Xavier [19-12 (9-9), RPI: 32, SOS: 12]
Plays Depaul (9-22) on March 8 at 8:30 pm CT
From Big 10:
Michigan State [18-13 (10-8), RPI: 47, SOS: 9]
Plays at 1:25 pm on March 9
Illinois [18-13 (8-10), RPI: 57, SOS: 20]
Plays Michigan (20-11) at 11am CT on March 9
From Mountain West:
Nevada [25-6 (14-4), RPI: 34, SOS: 149]
Plays Friday March 10 from what I can tell
From PAC 12:
USC [23-8 (10-8), RPI: 38, SOS: 77]
Plays Washington (9-21) at 10:30 pm CT March 8
California [19-11 (10-8), RPI: 55, SOS: 36]
BEAT Oregon State (5-26) at 4:30 pm CT on March 8
From SEC:
Vanderbilt [17-14 (10-8), RPI: 44, SOS: 3] .
Plays Texas A&M (16-14) at 6 pm March 9
Others
Illinois State [27-6 (17-1), RPI: 36, SOS: 155]
Done; lost to Wichita State in conf championship game
Middle Tennessee [27-4 (17-1), RPI: 39, SOS: 160], Conference USA
Plays on March 10 from what I can tell
UT Arlington [24-7 (14-4), RPI: 40, SOS: 147], Sun Belt Conference
Plays on March 10 from what I can tell
What follows is a really good up to date summary by conference of the 19 teams not named "Iowa" that are on the bubble. Ideally, each of these 19 teams that are still alive in their conference tourneys gets blown out early.
It goes without saying but obviously we don't want some surprise team winning their Power 5 conference tournament.
College Basketball Bubble Watch
Updated: March 7, 2017, 8:53 AM ET
By Eamonn Brennan | ESPN.com
Entire analysis is here: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bubblewatch
Here is where Iowa is right now: Iowa [18-13 (10-8), RPI: 69, SOS: 46]
The 19 other Bubble Teams:
From American Athletic Conf
Houston [21-9 (12-6), RPI: 50, SOS: 66] .
Play Fri March 10, 8 pm
From Atlantic 10:
Rhode Island [21-9 (13-5), RPI: 42, SOS: 55]
Plays Fri March 10 (from what I can tell)
From ACC:
Syracuse [18-13 (10-8), RPI: 77, SOS: 61]
LOST to Miami (20-10) March 8 at 11 am CT
Wake Forest [18-12 (9-9), RPI: 28, SOS: 13]
BEAT Boston College (9-23) 92-78 on March 7
LOST to Va Tech (21-9) at 6 pm on March 8
Georgia Tech [17-14 (8-10), RPI: 95, SOS: 59]
LOST 61-59 in opening round to Pitt (16-16)
From Big 12:
Kansas State [19-12 (8-10), RPI: 58, SOS: 54]
Plays Baylor (25-6) on March 9 at 8 pm CT
From Big East:
Seton Hall [20-10 (10-8), RPI: 43, SOS: 58]
Plays Marquette (19-11) at 1:30 pm March 9
Providence [20-11 (10-8), RPI: 52, SOS: 50]
Plays Creighton (23-8) at 8:30 pm on March 9
Marquette [19-11 (10-8), RPI: 56, SOS: 57]
Plays Seton Hall (20-10) at 1:30 pm March 9
Xavier [19-12 (9-9), RPI: 32, SOS: 12]
Plays Depaul (9-22) on March 8 at 8:30 pm CT
From Big 10:
Michigan State [18-13 (10-8), RPI: 47, SOS: 9]
Plays at 1:25 pm on March 9
Illinois [18-13 (8-10), RPI: 57, SOS: 20]
Plays Michigan (20-11) at 11am CT on March 9
From Mountain West:
Nevada [25-6 (14-4), RPI: 34, SOS: 149]
Plays Friday March 10 from what I can tell
From PAC 12:
USC [23-8 (10-8), RPI: 38, SOS: 77]
Plays Washington (9-21) at 10:30 pm CT March 8
California [19-11 (10-8), RPI: 55, SOS: 36]
BEAT Oregon State (5-26) at 4:30 pm CT on March 8
From SEC:
Vanderbilt [17-14 (10-8), RPI: 44, SOS: 3] .
Plays Texas A&M (16-14) at 6 pm March 9
Others
Illinois State [27-6 (17-1), RPI: 36, SOS: 155]
Done; lost to Wichita State in conf championship game
Middle Tennessee [27-4 (17-1), RPI: 39, SOS: 160], Conference USA
Plays on March 10 from what I can tell
UT Arlington [24-7 (14-4), RPI: 40, SOS: 147], Sun Belt Conference
Plays on March 10 from what I can tell
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To be fair, that actually hurts our RPI/SOS. We played 2 games against Illinois and 1 against Michigan. However, Illinois is a bigger threat than dropping 1 spot in the RPI.
Illinois State should be out, Rhode Island a really unimpressive resume, Syracuse is in only because of their coach and program reputation and IMO Xavier is dead in the water without their star player available. Hawks need to take care of business, win at least two games in DC, kick down the door and avoid another Dayton first round game. Barring that, an NIT invite isn't terrible and probably gives this young squad a longer period to continue to play and improve for next season.
Pitt up by 5 on GA Tech with 1 min left. GA Tech will be done if they lose this.
Michigan winning helps them stay in the top 50 rpi. Wins over the top 50 rpi is more important than whatever happens to our RPI from that math, and gets Illinois Manbun out of our face in the bubble line.
I know, Lunardi said he thinks it's a done deal with the win. If they weren't in the ACC I doubt they'd be saying this.
Well, I guess their RPI and SOS are impressive going into the ACC Tourney:
Wake Forest [18-12 (9-9), RPI: 28, SOS: 13]
BEAT Boston College (9-23) 92-78 on March 7
That's what I was thinking. Like beating Rutgers. If anything I'd say keep them at status quo but wouldn't count it as a boost. Thought that was ridiculous to say with so much bubble teams still left to play conference tourney.
That's it for today, correct, when it comes to bubble team games?
If so, here is tomorrow's schedule:
From ACC:
Syracuse [18-13 (10-8), RPI: 77, SOS: 61]
Plays Miami (20-10) March 8 at 11 am CT
Wake Forest [18-12 (9-9), RPI: 28, SOS: 13]
BEAT Boston College (9-23) 92-78 on March 7
Plays Va Tech (21-9) at 6 pm on March 8
Georgia Tech [17-14 (8-10), RPI: 95, SOS: 59]
LOST 61-59 in opening round to Pitt (16-16)
From Big East:
Xavier [19-12 (9-9), RPI: 32, SOS: 12]
Plays Depaul (9-22) on March 8 at 8:30 pm CT
From PAC 12:
USC [23-8 (10-8), RPI: 38, SOS: 77]
Plays Washington (9-21) at 10:30 pm CT March 8
California [19-11 (10-8), RPI: 55, SOS: 36]
Plays Oregon State (5-26) at 4:30 pm CT on March 8
If so, here is tomorrow's schedule:
From ACC:
Syracuse [18-13 (10-8), RPI: 77, SOS: 61]
Plays Miami (20-10) March 8 at 11 am CT
Wake Forest [18-12 (9-9), RPI: 28, SOS: 13]
BEAT Boston College (9-23) 92-78 on March 7
Plays Va Tech (21-9) at 6 pm on March 8
Georgia Tech [17-14 (8-10), RPI: 95, SOS: 59]
LOST 61-59 in opening round to Pitt (16-16)
From Big East:
Xavier [19-12 (9-9), RPI: 32, SOS: 12]
Plays Depaul (9-22) on March 8 at 8:30 pm CT
From PAC 12:
USC [23-8 (10-8), RPI: 38, SOS: 77]
Plays Washington (9-21) at 10:30 pm CT March 8
California [19-11 (10-8), RPI: 55, SOS: 36]
Plays Oregon State (5-26) at 4:30 pm CT on March 8
But what sucks is what ESPN thinks:
Syracuse will play Miami Wednesday in the ACC tournament's 8/9 game. That the Orange finished with a No. 8 seed is a pretty good indication of just how much better they were over the final six weeks of the season (when they beat Virginia, Duke and Florida State) than they were early on (when they lost to Boston College, UConn, Georgetown and St. John's, by 33 points). Thanks to its seed, Syracuse doesn't have to worry about taking a bad loss. It will either lose to Miami and be done, or beat Miami and play North Carolina. It should get the call on Selection Sunday either way.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bubblewatch
Syracuse will play Miami Wednesday in the ACC tournament's 8/9 game. That the Orange finished with a No. 8 seed is a pretty good indication of just how much better they were over the final six weeks of the season (when they beat Virginia, Duke and Florida State) than they were early on (when they lost to Boston College, UConn, Georgetown and St. John's, by 33 points). Thanks to its seed, Syracuse doesn't have to worry about taking a bad loss. It will either lose to Miami and be done, or beat Miami and play North Carolina. It should get the call on Selection Sunday either way.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bubblewatch
