MARCH 12 Tournament Selection Show: Jerry Palm/CBS was CORRECT: IOWA was one of First 4 OUT
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We are better than them in every category besides top 50 RPI wins 6 to our 5. They have worse losses than us and have 2 wins away from home whole year while we have 2 top 50 RPI road wins. They are done if they lose. Down 3 with 3 to go, comeon Miami!
Syracuse losing leaves them with an RPI of about 85 and 2 wins away from home. I can't imagine that resume getting in.
Does Iowa's resume look better than their resume?
Take a look at this, where I think it is clear: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/IOWA/CUSE
agreed.
take a look at this and let me know your thoughts:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/IOWA/CUSE
when you look at their resumes side by side, what do you think? I think Iowa's looks better.
here is the link for the comparison:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/IOWA/CUSE
Love that link, was just looking at it. What jumps out obviously is their lack of away wins and they have 3 very bad losses to teams around 120/139/200. And we are getting slack for UNO at about 130?
The key differences are that their top wins are better than ours, but all at home. We showed we can beat quality teams away from home, while they showed that they can beat anyone. They also have a few more "black eyes" than we do.
Iowa - Better RPI, Better quality R/N wins, Less bad losses
Syracuse - Better wins, Better name recognition
Iowa - Better RPI, Better quality R/N wins, Less bad losses
Syracuse - Better wins, Better name recognition
And isnt winning on the road given more weight?
And how you are playing now matters, correct?
I love the link too; Iowa looks pretty good vs the Orange
Iowa has 2 just 2 bad losses imo: Memphis, UNO
What dirt does Cuse have on the Selection Committee?
Lunardi is not ready to remove the Cuse from his bracket based on this tweet:
Joe LunardiVerified account@ESPNLunardi 3h3 hours ago
A year ago at this time, Syracuse was losing its ACC tournament opener to Pitt. Most of us dropped the Orange.
Lunardi is not ready to remove the Cuse from his bracket based on this tweet:
Joe LunardiVerified account@ESPNLunardi 3h3 hours agoA year ago at this time, Syracuse was losing its ACC tournament opener to Pitt. Most of us dropped the Orange.
What dirt does Cuse have on the Selection Committee?
Lunardi is not ready to remove the Cuse from his bracket based on this tweet:
A year ago at this time, Syracuse was losing its ACC tournament opener to Pitt. Most of us dropped the Orange.
Well, to be fair - I think they are CURRENTLY right on the cusp, but others now have opportunities to pass them, or for the bubble to shrink with bid stealers.
All of this conjecture is based on where things stand now, but remember that the cut line is a moving target. If we win, we keep moving forward and force others to do the same if they don't want to be passed. Syracuse can no longer move forward.
Jerry PalmVerified account@jppalmCBS 22h22 hours ago
19 teams with a 1-7 record or worse vs the Top 50 (so about 1/year) have received an at large bid. A dozen teams have gotten in with no top 50 wins. Most recently Georgia 2015
19 teams with a 1-7 record or worse vs the Top 50 (so about 1/year) have received an at large bid. A dozen teams have gotten in with no top 50 wins. Most recently Georgia 2015
Someone asked Jerry Palm this: "what's the lowest amount of road/neutral wins to get in?"
Jerry PalmVerified account@jppalmCBS 7m7 minutes ago
Jerry Palm Retweeted Dan Fisher
Nobody with fewer than 3 since 1994 - as far back as my data goes. Nobody with fewer than 4 since 2008.
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Someone asked Jerry this: "Syracuse after losing again today?"
Jerry PalmVerified account@jppalmCBS 15m15 minutes ago
Yeah. Not much hope now.
Jerry PalmVerified account@jppalmCBS 15m15 minutes ago
Yeah. Not much hope now.
Now THAT is interesting. Given they have just 2, will be very interesting to watch.If nothing else, even if they are still in at this point, bubble teams can catch up and/or pass them with better wins. Take off the name on a blind resume and no chance at all of that resume getting into the tourney. Committee shouldn't care about what they did last year as the RPI is about 15 spots lower and the quality of wins is certainly lower.His response:
Someone asked Jerry Palm this: "what's the lowest amount of road/neutral wins to get in?"
Jerry Palm Retweeted Dan Fisher
Nobody with fewer than 3 since 1994 - as far back as my data goes. Nobody with fewer than 4 since 2008.
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good point. if we don't win tomorrow, we have just wasted a lot of time today LOL
C'mon Tyler and JoBo win the whole thing and show them what the next 3 years are going to be like.
i just worry about tired legs; i hope they don't show up until at least Saturday =0
In looking at Clemson's resume they are 18-13, but went 6-12 in the ACC, wow, I always thought you had to be .500 or better to be considered?? 4-11 vs. Top 50, two of those are road games. Bad loss to #151 Oklahoma as well. RPI is 67, SOS of 35.
That's Lunardi's problem, he's making the same mistake as last year and dwelling on history. No way Syracuse gets in this year.What dirt does Cuse have on the Selection Committee?
Lunardi is not ready to remove the Cuse from his bracket based on this tweet:
A year ago at this time, Syracuse was losing its ACC tournament opener to Pitt. Most of us dropped the Orange.
I keep hearing 10 teams out of 14 from the ACC will make the tourney; that's crazy; I have never heard Clemson mentioned as a bubble team....yet.
Jay Williams: "I think Syracuse is in....it will be a fluid situation....I still think Syracuse is in a better position than others."
Seth: "I think they are in....they have 6 wins vs the Top 50...that probably gets them in... "
Watch here: www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18855166
Seth: "I think they are in....they have 6 wins vs the Top 50...that probably gets them in... "
Watch here: www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18855166
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That's just ESPN being ESPN. They want the controversy and the ratings.
No way they are in. If they are in, then Iowa should be a "LOCK" because of their resume.
Not surprised coming from ESPN. One thing to remember is ESPN has a big time Syracuse bias. They have some many alums working there on and off air it isn't even funny.
Jay Williams did say they are in right now but that could change if a team like Iowa does well in their conference tournament.
but then he comes full circle and says "I still think Syracuse is in a better position than others."
Did anyone ask them to explain it? Or was it because I said so.
Games today I am keeping my eyes on:
From ACC:
Syracuse [18-13 (10-8), RPI: 77, SOS: 61]
LOST to Miami (20-10) March 8 at 11 am CT
Wake Forest [18-12 (9-9), RPI: 28, SOS: 13]
BEAT Boston College (9-23) 92-78 on March 7
Plays Va Tech (21-9) at 6 pm on March 8
Georgia Tech [17-14 (8-10), RPI: 95, SOS: 59]
LOST 61-59 in opening round to Pitt (16-16)
From Big East:
Xavier [19-12 (9-9), RPI: 32, SOS: 12]
Plays Depaul (9-22) on March 8 at 8:30 pm CT
From PAC 12:
USC [23-8 (10-8), RPI: 38, SOS: 77]
Plays Washington (9-21) at 10:30 pm CT March 8
California [19-11 (10-8), RPI: 55, SOS: 36]
Plays Oregon State (5-26) at 4:30 pm CT on March 8
From ACC:
Syracuse [18-13 (10-8), RPI: 77, SOS: 61]
LOST to Miami (20-10) March 8 at 11 am CT
Wake Forest [18-12 (9-9), RPI: 28, SOS: 13]
BEAT Boston College (9-23) 92-78 on March 7
Plays Va Tech (21-9) at 6 pm on March 8
Georgia Tech [17-14 (8-10), RPI: 95, SOS: 59]
LOST 61-59 in opening round to Pitt (16-16)
From Big East:
Xavier [19-12 (9-9), RPI: 32, SOS: 12]
Plays Depaul (9-22) on March 8 at 8:30 pm CT
From PAC 12:
USC [23-8 (10-8), RPI: 38, SOS: 77]
Plays Washington (9-21) at 10:30 pm CT March 8
California [19-11 (10-8), RPI: 55, SOS: 36]
Plays Oregon State (5-26) at 4:30 pm CT on March 8
Chad Leisitkow from HawkCentral thinks Iowa needs 2 wins in the BTT (might put them in Dayton). A win vs Wisconsin would give Iowa SIX Top 50 RPI wins..
He thinks if Iowa beats just IU, they will need help:
* Syracuse losing to Miami in the opening round of the ACC Tourney was good.
* Root for Michigan (keeps Michigan in the Top 50 RPI) beating Illinois (knocks them out of the picture).
* Cannot have a team in the SEC, like Georgia, steal a bid by winning their conference tournament.
Link: www.facebook.com/hawkcentral/videos/10155106202090816?hootPostID=9de57d561b6671bf86e29a0e66af4e6c
He thinks if Iowa beats just IU, they will need help:
* Syracuse losing to Miami in the opening round of the ACC Tourney was good.
* Root for Michigan (keeps Michigan in the Top 50 RPI) beating Illinois (knocks them out of the picture).
* Cannot have a team in the SEC, like Georgia, steal a bid by winning their conference tournament.
Link: www.facebook.com/hawkcentral/videos/10155106202090816?hootPostID=9de57d561b6671bf86e29a0e66af4e6c
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If Iowa gets 2 wins, I'd put their chances at 90%+. Possibly more. The extra RPI boots and 2 more neutral court wins would make Iowa a strong candidate. 1 win and it's 50/50 or so.
We are screwed.
Dickie V wants Syracuse in as seen below.
Dick VitaleVerified account@DickieV
Word to Cuse naysayers about them being on Bubble after @theACC L to Miami / forget it SYRACUSE is going dancing !
Dickie V wants Syracuse in as seen below.
Dick VitaleVerified account@DickieV
Word to Cuse naysayers about them being on Bubble after @theACC L to Miami / forget it SYRACUSE is going dancing !
