MARCH 12 Tournament Selection Show: Jerry Palm/CBS was CORRECT: IOWA was one of First 4 OUT

[Franisdaman]

Joe Lunardi‏Verified account@ESPNLunardi
Am keeping Syracuse in the projected NCAA field despite today's loss. http://es.pn/2mCsoLw

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[Franisdaman]

Cuse has 4 losses to teams with a higher than 100 RPI; Iowa has 2 such losses. yet Cuse is solidly in, per Lunardi and Dick Vitale?

 

[War Hawkeye]

Joe Lunardi‏Verified account@ESPNLunardi
Am keeping Syracuse in the projected NCAA field despite today's loss. http://es.pn/2mCsoLw

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[Ronman]

Dickie V loves all the Hall of Fame cheaters.

 

[bravehawks1]

Joe Lunardi‏Verified account@ESPNLunardi
Am keeping Syracuse in the projected NCAA field despite today's loss. http://es.pn/2mCsoLw

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I call that total BS. Just because Boeheim is on the sideline. Put a different name on the front of their jersey, they would not even be on the bubble

 

[iahawkeyes17]

I call that total BS. Just because Boeheim is on the sideline. Put a different name on the front of their jersey, they would not even be on the bubble

So true the espn bias for them is amazing. On PTI their argument for them being in is well Lundardi has them so good enough for us and look how well they did last year. Last year should have zero bearing on this year. Funny thing is cbs bracketology guy Jerry palm has them in NIT citing how they can't do anything outside the carrier dome. I'd link but from rival black heart gold pants sight and had a great breakdown and comparison between Iowa and Syracuse with blind resume and if you didn't know one would pick Iowa most likely.

 

[Franisdaman]

There are 19 Bubble teams we need to lose ASAP. Illinois State has already lost in their conference final to Wichita State.

What follows is a really good up to date summary by conference of the 19 teams not named "Iowa" that are on the bubble. Ideally, each of these 19 teams that are still alive in their conference tourneys gets blown out early.

It goes without saying but obviously we don't want some surprise team winning their Power 5 conference tournament.


College Basketball Bubble Watch

Updated: March 7, 2017, 8:53 AM ET
By Eamonn Brennan | ESPN.com
Entire analysis is here: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bubblewatch


Here is where Iowa is right now: Iowa [18-13 (10-8), RPI: 69, SOS: 46]

The 19 other Bubble Teams (Record / RPI / SOS = heading into conference tourney):

From American Athletic Conf

Houston [21-9 (12-6), RPI: 50, SOS: 66] .
Play Fri March 10, 8 pm

From Atlantic 10:

Rhode Island [21-9 (13-5), RPI: 42, SOS: 55]
Plays Fri March 10, 1:30 pm

From ACC:

Syracuse [18-13 (10-8), RPI: 77, SOS: 61]
LOST to Miami (20-10) March 8 at 11 am CT

Wake Forest [18-12 (9-9), RPI: 28, SOS: 13]
BEAT Boston College (9-23) 92-78 on March 7
LOST to Va Tech (21-9) at 6 pm on March 8

Georgia Tech [17-14 (8-10), RPI: 95, SOS: 59]
LOST 61-59 in opening round to Pitt (16-16)

From Big 12:

Kansas State [19-12 (8-10), RPI: 58, SOS: 54]
Plays Baylor (25-6) on March 9 at 8 pm CT

From Big East:

Seton Hall [20-10 (10-8), RPI: 43, SOS: 58]
BEAT Marquette (19-11), 82-76, at 1:30 pm March 9

Providence [20-11 (10-8), RPI: 52, SOS: 50]
Plays Creighton (23-8) at 8:30 pm on March 9

Marquette [19-11 (10-8), RPI: 56, SOS: 57]
LOST to Seton Hall (20-10), 82-76, at 1:30 pm March 9

Xavier [19-12 (9-9), RPI: 32, SOS: 12]
BEAT DePaul (9-22) on March 8 at 8:30 pm CT
Plays Butler March 9, at 6 pm

From Big 10:

Michigan State [18-13 (10-8), RPI: 47, SOS: 9]
BEAT Penn State 78-51, at 1:25 pm on March 9

Illinois [18-13 (8-10), RPI: 57, SOS: 20]
LOST to Michigan (20-11), 75-55, at 11am CT on March 9

From Mountain West:

Nevada [25-6 (14-4), RPI: 34, SOS: 149]
BEAT Utah State 83-69, March 9, 2 pm CT

From PAC 12:

USC [23-8 (10-8), RPI: 38, SOS: 77]
BEAT Washington (9-21) at 10:30 pm CT March 8
Plays UCLA March 9 at 9:30 pm CT

California [19-11 (10-8), RPI: 55, SOS: 36]
BEAT Oregon State (5-26) at 4:30 pm CT on March 8
Plays Utah (20-10) 4:30 pm CT March 9

From SEC:

Vanderbilt [17-14 (10-8), RPI: 44, SOS: 3] .
Plays Texas A&M (16-14) at 6 pm March 9

Others

Illinois State [27-6 (17-1), RPI: 36, SOS: 155]
Done; lost to Wichita State in conf championship game

Middle Tennessee [27-4 (17-1), RPI: 39, SOS: 160], Conference USA
BEAT UT San Antonio 86-70, on March 9 at 11:30 am

UT Arlington [24-7 (14-4), RPI: 40, SOS: 147], Sun Belt Conference
Plays Coastal Carolina on March 10 at 11:30 am

 

[iahawkeyes17]

Va Tech up 10 with under 2 min over wake forest. Good news for Iowa. Puts wake at 19-13 (9-9 in conference). But one thing is Wake finished 10th in their conference. I know likes of espn loves the acc but still 10th of 15 teams bottom third of the conference is where they finished.

 

[Franisdaman]

So, what about these 2 ACC teams? The listed record / RPI / SOS was heading into the conference tournament.


Syracuse [18-13 (10-8), RPI: 77, SOS: 61]
LOST to Miami (20-10) March 8 at 11 am CT

Wake Forest [18-12 (9-9), RPI: 28, SOS: 13]
BEAT Boston College (9-23) 92-78 on March 7
LOST to Va Tech (21-9) at 6 pm on March 8

 

[HeRKeYHoPeFuL]

Va Tech up 10 with under 2 min over wake forest. Good news for Iowa. Puts wake at 19-13 (9-9 in conference). But one thing is Wake finished 10th in their conference. I know likes of espn loves the acc but still 10th of 15 teams bottom third of the conference is where they finished.

Math is hard.

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[StormHawk42]

Wake should get in before Syracuse. Despite what the "experts" say, Syracuse getting in would set a whole new precedent for bad losses, importance of road wins, bad RPI. I think if any of the other bubble teams win a game, Cuse is out.

 

[Franisdaman]

Math is hard.

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And with unbalanced conference schedules, where you finish in your conference does not matter. It's who you beat and where you beat them.

 

[Franisdaman]

Wake should get in before Syracuse. Despite what the "experts" say, Syracuse getting in would set a whole new precedent for bad losses, importance of road wins, bad RPI. I think if any of the other bubble teams win a game, Cuse is out.

hate to say it, but i bet there will be arguments that BOTH Cuse and Wake should be in

 

[Franisdaman]

So far, DePaul/Xavier is interesting.

At the half:

31 Depaul
30 Xavier

The game is on FS1 or you can watch here: http://wiz1.net/channel74

 

[Franisdaman]

if you eve wanna compare 2 teams' resumes, here is a good link:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/IOWA/CUSE


Right now, you would think Iowa has a better resume than Cuse.

 

[Franisdaman]

March 9 Update

Joe Lunardi

Last Four Byes

• Providence
• Marquette
• Vanderbilt
• USC

Last Four In

• Syracuse (11 Seed; play in game)
• Xavier
• Wake Forest
• Illinois State (12 Seed; play in game)

First Four Out

• Rhode Island
• Kansas State
• Illinois
• Iowa

Next Four Out

• Houston
• California
• Indiana
• Georgia

See more here: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

 

[youcantguardme]

March 9 Update

Joe Lunardi

Last Four Byes

• Providence
• Marquette
• Vanderbilt
• USC

Last Four In

• Syracuse (11 Seed; play in game)
• Xavier
• Wake Forest
• Illinois State (12 Seed; play in game)

First Four Out

• Rhode Island
• Kansas State
• Illinois
• Iowa

Next Four Out

• Houston
• California
• Indiana
• Georgia

See more here: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

After we destroy Indiana it will change.

 

[Underscore2]

Andy Bottoms, current #1 on Bracket Matrix, put Iowa in this last 4 in.

Last Four In
Xavier

Vanderbilt

USC

Iowa

First Four Out
Kansas State

Illinois State

Rhode Island

Illinois

http://assemblycall.com/bracketology-ncaa-tournament-bracket-projections-mar-8-2017/

 

[Franisdaman]

Key Games March 9:


From Big 12:

Kansas State [19-12 (8-10), RPI: 58, SOS: 54]
Plays Baylor (25-6) on March 9 at 8 pm CT

From Big East:

Seton Hall [20-10 (10-8), RPI: 43, SOS: 58]
Plays Marquette (19-11) at 1:30 pm March 9

Providence [20-11 (10-8), RPI: 52, SOS: 50]
Plays Creighton (23-8) at 8:30 pm on March 9

Marquette [19-11 (10-8), RPI: 56, SOS: 57]
Plays Seton Hall (20-10) at 1:30 pm March 9

Xavier [19-12 (9-9), RPI: 32, SOS: 12]
BEAT DePaul (9-22) on March 8 at 8:30 pm CT
Plays Butler March 9, at 6 pm

From Big 10:

Michigan State [18-13 (10-8), RPI: 47, SOS: 9]
Plays Penn State at 1:25 pm on March 9

Illinois [18-13 (8-10), RPI: 57, SOS: 20]
LOST to Michigan (20-11), 75-55, at 11am CT on March 9

From Mountain West:

Nevada [25-6 (14-4), RPI: 34, SOS: 149]
Plays Utah State March 9, 2 pm CT

From PAC 12:

USC [23-8 (10-8), RPI: 38, SOS: 77]
BEAT Washington (9-21) at 10:30 pm CT March 8
Plays UCLA March 9 at 9:30 pm CT

California [19-11 (10-8), RPI: 55, SOS: 36]
BEAT Oregon State (5-26) at 4:30 pm CT on March 8
Plays Utah (20-10) 4:30 pm CT March 9

From SEC:

Vanderbilt [17-14 (10-8), RPI: 44, SOS: 3] .
Plays Texas A&M (16-14) at 6 pm March 9

Others

Middle Tennessee [27-4 (17-1), RPI: 39, SOS: 160], Conference USA
Plays UT San Antonio on March 9 at 11:30 am

 

[FranklinHawk]

Dickie V thinks any team who beat almighty Duke HAS to be awesome and in the tournament.

 

[0418hawkguy1001]

Didnt you guys here, the NCAA is petitioning the selection committee to allow all 15 ACC teams in, because it is heads and shoulders the best conference in the league. Only reason BC lost all those games is because they played in the ACC. Put them in the Big 10 and they probably win it.

 

[Franisdaman]

Lots of bias at ESPN when it comes to Cuse and the ACC, that is for sure.

Thank gawd we have Chris Hassel there defending the Hawks!

 

[Franisdaman]

March 9 Update

USA Today

► No. 1 seeds: Kansas, Villanova, North Carolina and Oregon

► Last four in: Xavier, Illinois, USC, Iowa (12 seed, play in game vs USC)

► First four out: Syracuse, Georgia, Illinois State, Rhode Island

Moving in: Iowa

Moving out: Syracuse

► Others considered for at-large bids (in no particular order): Clemson, Ohio State, Kansas State, California

► On life support: Ohio State, Indiana, Houston, Clemson

► Multi-bid conferences: ACC (9), Big Ten (9), Big East (7), Big 12 (5), SEC (5), Pac-12 (4), A-10 (2), AAC (2), WCC (2).

4 Purdue
5 Minnesota
6 Maryland
7 Wisconsin
8 Mich State
9 Michigan
9 Northwestern
11 Illinois
12 Iowa


Link: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...e-basketball-march-madness-syracuse/98944266/

 

[Franisdaman]

Come on Michigan! Beat Illinois!!!

 

[BigOHawk]

Wolves out fast, go Blue!

 

[Franisdaman]

Wolves out fast, go Blue!

Couldn't believe when I saw the USA Today had Iowa IN!!! Damn, we are soooo close!

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Cuse has 4 losses to teams with a higher than 100 RPI; Iowa has 2 such losses. yet Cuse is solidly in, per Lunardi and Dick Vitale?

They both have man crushes on Boeheim........personally, I've never found him all that attractive but to each his own.

 

[Franisdaman]

They both have man crushes on Boeheim........personally, I've never found him all that attractive but to each his own.

A lot of those journalists graduated from Syracuse, too, so there is bias, just like there is bias when Hassel defends Iowa

 

[BigOHawk]

Mich up 15

 

[Franisdaman]

Jerry Palm:

Last 4 IN: Kansas State, Wake Forest, California, Rhode Island

First 4 OUT: Vanderbilt, Illinois State, Iowa and Illinois


Link: http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/

 

[kceasthawk]

i just worry about tired legs; i hope they don't show up until at least Saturday =0

Why would you be worried about tired legs? You realize the teams we'll be playing are at the same point in their season as well correct? Playing in tourneys where you play every day SHOULD help Iowa. This is were playing so many guys all year should pay off. Other then Jbo, most of our guys especially the bigs have not had to play a ton of minutes. Between sitting on the bench for 7 games,(finger surgery), and several games with fouls, Cook should be in good shape. Most of these guys are 18 to 20 years old. This should not be an issue, at least no more for Iowa then any other team, and I think should lean in our favor.

 

[anon_snp6dc585nnj4]

Why would you be worried about tired legs? You realize the teams we'll be playing are at the same point in their season as well correct? Playing in tourneys where you play every day SHOULD help Iowa. This is were playing so many guys all year should pay off. Other then Jbo, most of our guys especially the bigs have not had to play a ton of minutes. Between sitting on the bench for 7 games,(finger surgery), and several games with fouls, Cook should be in good shape. Most of these guys are 18 to 20 years old. This should not be an issue, at least no more for Iowa then any other team, and I think should lean in our favor.

THIS. we play 12 freaking guys. We are probably the most rested team.

 

[kceasthawk]

We are screwed.

Dickie V wants Syracuse in as seen below.





Dick Vitale‏Verified account@DickieV
Word to Cuse naysayers about them being on Bubble after @theACC L to Miami / forget it SYRACUSE is going dancing !

Now theres a guy who carries some weight with the selection committee.NOT!

 

[Franisdaman]

Why would you be worried about tired legs? You realize the teams we'll be playing are at the same point in their season as well correct? Playing in tourneys where you play every day SHOULD help Iowa. This is were playing so many guys all year should pay off. Other then Jbo, most of our guys especially the bigs have not had to play a ton of minutes. Between sitting on the bench for 7 games,(finger surgery), and several games with fouls, Cook should be in good shape. Most of these guys are 18 to 20 years old. This should not be an issue, at least no more for Iowa then any other team, and I think should lean in our favor.

Look at our games following the OT games; we came out flat, not shooting very well, and that was WITH a few days rest

 

[youcantguardme]

Illinois OUT

 

[anon_snp6dc585nnj4]

Look at our games following the OT games; we came out flat, not shooting very well, and that was WITH a few days rest

Ok....did I miss the PSU game?

 

[Franisdaman]

Illinois OUT

They gone?

Groce gone?

he gone!

 

[MepoDawg#]

Ok....did I miss the PSU game?

And the fact Iowa started slow in other games as well not just those following OT games.

 

[Franisdaman]

And the fact Iowa started slow in other games as well not just those following OT games.

Reporters did ask post game if those OT games were a factor; I think they were.

So my question is, if they win today, how do they respond tomorrow? Hopefully, very well, but it's just something to watch for.

 

[kceasthawk]

Reporters did ask post game if those OT games were a factor; I think they were.

So my question is, if they win today, how do they respond tomorrow? Hopefully, very well, but it's just something to watch for.

Hey Franman I understand your concern, I just think we SHOULD be as physically prepared for the next couple of games as anyone we'll play. I would consider tired legs an excuse, because we should not be anymore affected by the conditions then our opponents. It kind of like using the weather in football when both teams played under the same conditions. As stated, playing so many players during the year should help us now, to fight fatigue, foul trouble, or just to replace someone who isn't getting done. I assume if we win, we'd play a team that had a bye today. We might still have an advantage by getting the tourney jitters out of the way, and to get used to the rims, shooting background etc...