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March 14 Joe Lunardi / ESPN Bracketology: IOWA is on the Bubble (7th Team OUT). #59 NET Ranking (8th Best in B1G) on March 14

I see New Mexico is now outside looking in. UNLV is 4th in conference standing, but not in Lunardi's brackets. They haven't beat anyone outside of the MWC. That leaves 5 teams to choose from. If one of them (CSU definitely) gets beat early in conference tournament, they could be considered out.
 
Counting post regular season tournaments (non in season holiday tournaments/exempt tournaments)

BTT: 9-11 .450
NIT: 5-3 .625
NCAA: 4-7 .364

Overall: 18-21 .462
NIT is 6-3

However, that very unimpressive 19-21 W-L record doesn't tell the whole story - many of those losses were crushing upsets. Iowa's record as the BETTER seed in the BTT and NCAA's under Fran is 10-8, including six losses as prohibitive favorites (#2-#7, two #5-#12, two #5-#13, and a #6-#11). Literally some of the ugliest post-season numbers you will find.
 
I see New Mexico is now outside looking in. UNLV is 4th in conference standing, but not in Lunardi's brackets. They haven't beat anyone outside of the MWC. That leaves 5 teams to choose from. If one of them (CSU definitely) gets beat early in conference tournament, they could be considered out.

NM is the same as Indiana State. Top 30 NET. Again, it’d be a super outlier to leave NM out.

Co State is 36 in the net and has 5 Q1 wins. Bracket Matrix has them as a 9 seed.

NM is the only one of the 6 that makes sense to leave out with only 2 Q1 wins. But it seems like any team that would get in over them would have a worse resume.
 
I get the feeling even if we beat Ohio State, then Illinois, these annoying Big East bubble teams will still be in the way. If we show up, would love seeing Maryland go on a roll and knock off Purdue, so we get Ohio State, Illinois, Nebby, a tired Maryland, done.
 
NIT is 6-3

However, that very unimpressive 19-21 W-L record doesn't tell the whole story - many of those losses were crushing upsets. Iowa's record as the BETTER seed in the BTT and NCAA's under Fran is 10-8, including six losses as prohibitive favorites (#2-#7, two #5-#12, two #5-#13, and a #6-#11). Literally some of the ugliest post-season numbers you will find.

I wouldn’t say unimpressive and I certainly wouldn’t call them impressive either. I’d say they’re probably about average for a program that sits nationally 25-35ish over this time. The biggest disappointment has been the BTT. Outside of one season (and one cancelled tournament) the numbers would be awful.
 
Happens every year. There really doesn't seem to be a set criteria. They will put in the teams they want, and make up the reasons as they go.

I wouldn’t say unimpressive and I certainly wouldn’t call them impressive either. I’d say they’re probably about average for a program that sits nationally 25-35ish over this time. The biggest disappointment has been the BTT. Outside of one season (and one cancelled tournament) the numbers would be awful.
Need kansas to put down cincy
 
Counting post regular season tournaments (non in season holiday tournaments/exempt tournaments)

BTT: 9-11 .450
NIT: 5-3 .625
NCAA: 4-7 .364

Overall: 18-21 .462
That is a poor post season record.
The most important, by far, NCAA tourney record really stands out in a negative way given the length of tenure.
 
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Good to see some of the very fringe bubble teams like Syracuse, VA Tech, and Butler lose tonight.

Kansas St is going to start seeing quite a bit of buzz after the Texas win. 5 Q1 wins, no bad losses, and they’ve beaten Providence, Nova, ISU, Baylor, Kansas, and BYU. Their NET isn’t great but they are definitely in the conversation.
They are in
 
NIT is 6-3

However, that very unimpressive 19-21 W-L record doesn't tell the whole story - many of those losses were crushing upsets. Iowa's record as the BETTER seed in the BTT and NCAA's under Fran is 10-8, including six losses as prohibitive favorites (#2-#7, two #5-#12, two #5-#13, and a #6-#11). Literally some of the ugliest post-season numbers you will find.

Good context as the four ncaa tourney wins are the real sore spot. Given some of our teams, players and matchups - that is turible.
 
I wouldn’t say unimpressive and I certainly wouldn’t call them impressive either. I’d say they’re probably about average for a program that sits nationally 25-35ish over this time. The biggest disappointment has been the BTT. Outside of one season (and one cancelled tournament) the numbers would be awful.
Correct. Losing first game to a double digit seed four straight years in BTT doesn't seem possible.
Losing 3 straight years to a lower seeded team in ncaa tournament also discouraging.
 
Correct. Losing first game to a double digit seed four straight years in BTT doesn't seem possible.
Losing 3 straight years to a lower seeded team in ncaa tournament also discouraging.
Auburn was 3 point favorites last year. Pretty disingenuous to use 8/9 game as a higher vs lower seed.
 
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Maryland moved up to #72 in the NET so Iowa got rid of a Quad 3 loss.

Here are today's NET Rankings.

Iowa is now #59 in the NET, which is 8th best in the B1G.

Iowa is 3-9 in Quad 1 games.

NET
Rank..Previous..Record...Road..Neutral..Home..Quad1...Quad 2...Quad 3...Quad 4

22PurdueBig Ten28-37-35-016-012-36-07-03-0
1615IllinoisBig Ten23-86-52-015-36-65-27-05-0
2222WisconsinBig Ten19-123-92-014-34-88-43-04-0
2324Michigan St.Big Ten18-133-71-214-44-85-55-04-0
3837NebraskaBig Ten22-93-81-018-14-74-27-07-0
5150NorthwesternBig Ten21-104-72-115-25-65-34-07-1
5555Ohio St.Big Ten19-122-84-013-43-63-58-15-0
5961IowaBig Ten18-134-82-112-43-95-34-16-0
7277MarylandBig Ten16-164-81-211-62-84-43-47-0
8689Penn St.Big Ten16-162-81-413-42-95-44-25-1
8887MinnesotaBig Ten18-132-80-116-41-86-32-29-0
9694IndianaBig Ten18-134-61-213-54-85-43-16-0
103102RutgersBig Ten15-173-90-312-53-123-42-17-0
135131MichiganBig Ten8-242-101-45-103-131-72-32-1
 
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As of 10:19 am CT, Iowa is the 7th team OUT.



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This guy is consistantly in the top 15ish bracketoligists.

He has Iowa as first of the first 4 out. I pay more attention to him vs Lunardi, etc.

 
I know we love to watch and react to all other teams but the mission is simple, win 2 in the BTT and we are in IMO re: of bubble. Tall task and job #1 is to win today but we've been stung so many times around this time of year literally nothing surprises me anymore.

Just last year on Thur March 9, 2023, #13 Ohio State beat #5 Iowa, 73-69.

And then we lost the 1st game of the NCAA Tournament, of course.
 
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Iowa's record broken down:
Quad 1: 3-9
Quad 2: 5-3
Quad 3: 4-1
Quad 4: 6-0
...............................
.............18-13


In what follows, Iowa is 8 (Quad 1 & 2 wins) and 1 (Quad 3 & 4 losses) currently, which is roughly an 11 seed.



 
Iowa's record broken down:
Quad 1: 3-9
Quad 2: 5-3
Quad 3: 4-1
Quad 4: 6-0
...............................
.............18-13


In what follows, Iowa is 8 (Quad 1 & 2 wins) and 1 (Quad 3 & 4 losses) currently, which is roughly an 11 seed.



Interesting. 10 seed data is surprising.
I'd love for them to differentiate the 11 seed data between AQ 11 seeds and at-large 11 seeds. AQ 11 seeds like Drake are likely going to have a much fewer Q1&2 wins than a team that's getting in off the bubble. That's why I think there's such a huge gap between the 10 seeds and the 11 seeds in that list. It really doesn't tell me much.
 
I'd love for them to differentiate the 11 seed data between AQ 11 seeds and at-large 11 seeds. AQ 11 seeds like Drake are likely going to have a much fewer Q1&2 wins than a team that's getting in off the bubble. That's why I think there's such a huge gap between the 10 seeds and the 11 seeds in that list. It really doesn't tell me much.
Very good point. Plus there’s so much more that goes into the selection/seeding of teams as can be seen by the similarities between seeds 4-10.
 
NM is the same as Indiana State. Top 30 NET. Again, it’d be a super outlier to leave NM out.

Co State is 36 in the net and has 5 Q1 wins. Bracket Matrix has them as a 9 seed.

NM is the only one of the 6 that makes sense to leave out with only 2 Q1 wins. But it seems like any team that would get in over them would have a worse resume.
it's a mid major conference... reason enough
 
I'd love for them to differentiate the 11 seed data between AQ 11 seeds and at-large 11 seeds. AQ 11 seeds like Drake are likely going to have a much fewer Q1&2 wins than a team that's getting in off the bubble. That's why I think there's such a huge gap between the 10 seeds and the 11 seeds in that list. It really doesn't tell me much.

But explain why 11 seed averages 2.25 more Q1/Q2 wins than 10 seed.
 
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