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Minneapolis PD Kill Black Man (not the subject of the warrant) during No Knock Search Warrant in Connection w/ a St Paul Homicide Investigation

I have to wonder if there was any consideration for who the residents of those apartments were, and if any of them owned a firearm? There's no firearm registration in many states, but I have a CCW, and law enforcement would know that if they had a warrant for me or at my residence.

In the same circumstances, it's my house, I probably have a gun, and you aren't looking for me. A no knock warrant would probably be dangerous.

The price we are paying for arming our society.
 
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An innocent man was killed in a police raid. This is the issue. ”Had they removed”. Well they didn’t. They they KILLED an innocent person. You accuse me of not staying on point.

KARE 11 , the NBC affiliate, actually came up with the timeline that led to Amir Locke's death. They concluded that the juvenile justice system failed us and led to the deaths of 2 men.

So, this is all on point.

Again, here's their story/investigation. Read for yourself.

 
KARE 11 , the NBC affiliate, actually came up with the timeline that led to Amir Locke's death. They concluded that the juvenile justice system failed us and led to the deaths of 2 men.

So, this is all on point.

Again, here's their story/investigation. Read for yourself.

The responding LEO failed us and his incompetence led to the death of an innocent man.
 
No. People need to be able to protect themselves. There are other countries where people have guns in their homes.

Drugs and guns (in the wrong individuals' hands) are huge problems in this country.

Speed was 16 and shot a man. The juvenile justice system put him on probation.

Speed violated the terms of his probation and the juvenile justice system, instead of sending him to jail, made him live with his mom and put him on 30 days home monitoring.

Speed, by age 17, had acquired another hand gun. Then, during a drug buy, Speed kills a St Paul man.

Drugs, of course, were seized during the apartment raids.
 
@Franisdaman @Hawkman98
Let's say a cop shows up at the wrong address, and when an armed homeowner comes out to investigate, the cop shoots and kills the homeowner without identifying himself. Does that seem reasonable to you?
 
Drugs and guns (in the wrong individuals' hands) are huge problems in this country.

Speed was 16 and shot a man. The juvenile justice system put him on probation.

Speed violated the terms of his probation and the juvenile justice system, instead of sending him to jail, made him live with his mom and put him on 30 days home monitoring.

Speed, by age 17, had acquired another hand gun. Then, during a drug buy, Speed kills a St Paul man.

Drugs, of course, were seized during the apartment raids.
Speed just about to "turn his life around" isn't that the go to line?
 
Speed just about to "turn his life around" isn't that the go to line?

How can he turn his life around when at age 16/17:

* He's testing positive for pot usage

* He failed to stay in regular contact with probation officers

* He failed to go to school regularly

* He failed to go to therapy

* He's driving around a Mercedes for 1.5 months that is obviously not his
 
KARE 11 , the NBC affiliate, actually came up with the timeline that led to Amir Locke's death. They concluded that the juvenile justice system failed us and led to the deaths of 2 men.

So, this is all on point.

Again, here's their story/investigation. Read for yourself.

An innocent man was killed in a police raid. This is the issue. ”Had they removed”. Well they didn’t. They KILLED an innocent person. You accuse me of not staying on point.

You can't make an argument to change the dynamic. They killed an innocent person.
 
There's nothing funny about the fact that you can't get the simplest of details in this case correct.

Regarding the murderer, Mekhi Speed, age 17:

(1) Speed had made previous, alarming comments about cops, as noted earlier in this thread.

(2) When Speed was 16, he got into a fight, went back to his car to get a gun, and started firing MULTIPLE ROUNDS. One of the many rounds hit the other man in the leg.

(3) In what was supposed to be a drug deal in St Paul, one of Speed's accomplices sat in the murder victim's passenger seat. Speed then shot and killed the St Paul man.

(4) Speed was obviously considered armed and dangerous. When Speed was arrested, he had a loaded gun on him.

So, its pretty clear Speed did not like cops and had a history of erratic, extremely dangerous behavior with guns. Hence, the no knock request. But, because of your bias and ignorance, you call the no knock a "stupid decision."


Here is some more information on Speed (with a timeline), who the police got off the streets when he was 16 but the juvenile justice system set him free.

* In September 2020, then-16-year-old Speed got into a fight with a 22-year-old man at a strip mall. Speed responded by going back to his car, grabbing a gun, and firing multiple rounds. One of the bullets went through the man's leg. A witness ID’d Speed as firing the shots.

As @Hawkman98 has brought up, with dangerous individuals like this, do you expect police to knock on the door and allow Speed to grab his gun and start firing?

* Speed would be charged with second degree assault and a minor in possession of a firearm, which carries a mandatory prison sentence.

* The Minnesota’s juvenile justice system, however, allowed this violent teen to avoid prison, with the hopes of rehabilitating him in an attempt to prevent him from being institutionalized.

* A 3-year adult prison sentence was stayed until he was 21, so long as he followed the terms of his probation, remain law abiding and get treatment.

* In Dec 2020 Speed was sent to the West Central Regional Juvenile Treatment Center’s secure residential program in Moorhead, MN.

* After his discharge, Speed twice tested positive for pot in the summer of 2021. He failed to stay in regular contact with probation, failed to go to school regularly and failed to go to therapy, according to court records.

* In October, 2021, Judge Shereen Askalani found Speed's violation of his probation as “intentional and inexcusable.” Though she could have sent him to prison, Askalani ordered that Speed be released to his mother and put on 30 days of electronic home monitoring.

* 3 months later, on Jan 10, 2022, at about 9:30 at night, Speed is accused of murdering Otis Elder in St. Paul.

* According to the criminal complaint, police watched a video of Elder's murder that showed the man who fired the gun wearing a dark jacket and light-colored hooded sweatshirt.

* After the shooting, the man in the dark colored jacket and an accomplice hopped into a silver Mercedes and sped away.

* Police suspected that the Mercedes had been stolen in Nov. 27, 2021 -- about a month after a judge put Speed on home monitoring.

* The Mercedes was involved in numerous crimes before Elder's murder, including 3 armed robberies and a police pursuit.

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After the murder, police tracked the Mercedes using MN DOT cameras to the Bolero Flats Apartments
in downtown Minneapolis.

* Police went to the building on Jan. 24 and met with witnesses who ID'd the man in the stolen Mercedes as Speed. Video also showed him arriving at the Bolero Flats wearing similar clothes to the man who shot Elder.

* Police identified 3 different apartments in the Bolero Flats where Speed could be, including apartment 701, where Speed's brother and his girlfriend lived. When police raided the unit on Feb. 2, the two of them were there, along with Amir Locke -- Speed's cousin.

* Speed was not in any of the three apartments raided, but police did find clothing that matched what he was seen wearing on video during Elder's murder, according to the complaint.

* Speed was arrested in Winona, MN, about 5 days after the raid, where he was found with a loaded gun in his jacket, according to the criminal complaint.

* The juvenile justice system's attempt to keep Speed from being institutionalized has obviously failed. 2 people are DEAD as a result. If convicted as an adult for murder, Speed faces a minimum of 23 years in prison.


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So you typed all that to tell me that the guy they were looking for - the person who had them so jacked up - wasn't in any of the apartments they raided. But they got clothes that may or may not be his. And an innocent man is dead.

See? Succinct and to the point.
 
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So you typed all that to tell me that the guy they were looking for - the person who had them so jacked up - wasn't in any of the apartments they raided. But they got clothes that may or may not be his. And an innocent man is dead.

See? Succinct and to the point.

We have a difficult problem with the simplest facts. Imagine what jurors would think!
 
@Franisdaman @Hawkman98
Let's say a cop shows up at the wrong address, and when an armed homeowner comes out to investigate, the cop shoots and kills the homeowner without identifying himself. Does that seem reasonable to you?
In THAT scenario the answer is no. Don't try to compare the two if that is where you are going with this question.
 
In THAT scenario the answer is no. Don't try to compare the two if that is where you are going with this question.

You as a law enforcement representative are still justifying this botched arrest attempt and killing of an innocent person. Is that right? You are saying this is a warranted shooting.
 
You as a law enforcement representative are still justifying this botched arrest attempt and killing of an innocent person. Is that right? You are saying this is a warranted shooting.
The shooting was justified. I've explained this multiple times and gave the reasonings why. I'm not talking about anything other then the OIS. Everything else could be totally wrong, I don't have the time to research the other issues.
 
So you typed all that to tell me that the guy they were looking for - the person who had them so jacked up - wasn't in any of the apartments they raided. But they got clothes that may or may not be his. And an innocent man is dead.

See? Succinct and to the point.

Pretty sure he lived with his mother in the building. Sure, I believe Locke to be an innocent bystander but if this information is all true, Speed had sone culpability in this along with those who asked for the no knock warrant.
 
Surprise Surprise.

The powers that be must be working OT to cover their asses.

Hell, the seized drugs might even have been planted?

I hadn't heard that but if the Minneapolis PD took that position, it follows their MO. I'm asking Hawkman specifically. It takes character, code of ethics and conscience to separate and be objective in judging an organization which has your loyalty or respect.
 
I hadn't heard that but if the Minneapolis PD took that position, it follows their MO. I'm asking Hawkman specifically. It takes character, code of ethics and conscience to separate and be objective in judging an organization which has your loyalty or respect.
Read your response above, so question answered. Hard to believe but easy to see why there is such problem within law enforcement. This is why LE has lost respect and trust. You don't see problems with and won't take responsibility for mistakes and errors.

This is how the public perceives law enforcement. Your attitude is, so what?
 
An innocent man was killed in a police raid. This is the issue. ”Had they removed”. Well they didn’t. They KILLED an innocent person. You accuse me of not staying on point.

You can't make an argument to change the dynamic. They killed an innocent person.

As @Hawkman98 explained, one of the ISSUES of this case is this: when you raise and point a loaded gun at LE, you should have the expectation of being shot.

And sorry, the fact that Speed was not thrown in jail when he was 16 OR when he was 17 and violated parole is an issue related to this case.

You all want people fired. Well, should the judge that didn't throw him in jail after he violated probation be removed, too? How about everyone in the juvenile justice system that allowed for Speed's freedom?
 
So you typed all that to tell me that the guy they were looking for - the person who had them so jacked up - wasn't in any of the apartments they raided. But they got clothes that may or may not be his. And an innocent man is dead.

See? Succinct and to the point.

I typed that to the ignorant and biased who are posting in this thread, which includes you, @ft254 @Dr. Spaceman & @Pinehawk

And actually 2 men are dead as a result of Speed's actions. Your ignorance concerning this case is stunning, actually.
 
You as a law enforcement representative are still justifying this botched arrest attempt and killing of an innocent person. Is that right? You are saying this is a warranted shooting.

The shooting was justified. I've explained this multiple times and gave the reasonings why. I'm not talking about anything other then the OIS. Everything else could be totally wrong, I don't have the time to research the other issues.


Sorry, Hawkman, that you have had to explain this so many times.
 
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The police killed just as many innocent people as Speed allegedly did. So, that’s not exactly great police work.
 
Pretty sure he lived with his mother in the building. Sure, I believe Locke to be an innocent bystander but if this information is all true, Speed had sone culpability in this along with those who asked for the no knock warrant.

Speed was supposedly living on the 14th floor with his mom but he was using the key fob for unit 701, where his brother & his brother's girlfriend lived. On the morning of the raid, Amir was on the couch, of course.

Speed was driving a Mercedes for 1.5 months, committing crimes. I hope they determine if Speed's mother, brother and cousin were aware of the Mercedes and if they asked Speed where the hell the Mercedes came from (likely a car jacking).
 
Read your response above, so question answered. Hard to believe but easy to see why there is such problem within law enforcement. This is why LE has lost respect and trust. You don't see problems with and won't take responsibility for mistakes and errors.

This is how the public perceives law enforcement. Your attitude is, so what?


@Hawkman98, FT replied to himself. I believe this was directed at you.
 
The police killed just as many innocent people as Speed allegedly did. So, that’s not exactly great police work.

Speed also recklessly shot multiple rounds at a man when he was 16 years old. Luckily that man only got hit once in the leg.

Speed was obliviously a very dangerous, very armed individual. @Hawkman98 explained why using a no knock makes send in cases like this. And the police responded appropriately when a gun was raised and aimed at them.


TWICE the juvenile justice system could have thrown Speed in jail and avoided all of this, as explained by KARE 11 (NBC affiliate):

(1) when Speed was 16, he got in a fight with a man, went to his car for a gun, and shot multiple rounds, striking the man in the leg. Instead of 3 years in jail, he got probation.

(2) when speed was 17 he violated probation. The judge, instead of sending him to jail, made him live with his mom and be subjected to 30 day home monitoring.

KARE 11 concluded that that juvenile justice system failed; by not sending Speed to jail, they allowed an extremely violent person to commit more crimes, ending up with countless more victims. Those in the juvenile justice system that allowed this to happen all have blood on their hands. Heads should roll. Now, finally, Speed is going to jail, where he belonged a long time ago.
 
@Hawkman98, please watch this, which helps further explain why the MPLS PD wanted a no knock.

NOTE that:

* Speed shot and killed the St Paul man in January with a .223 caliber firearm.

* .223 rifle rounds can penetrate police body armor

* Speed and the other suspect(s) were posting videos and photos on Instagram, holding several different firearms, including what appeared to be the .223 caliber firearm used in the murder.


Watch here:

 
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