Not sure. I thought they raided all 3 apartments at the same time to not only gather evidence but to hopefully arrest the suspect.
Minneapolis PD Kill Black Man (not the subject of the warrant) during No Knock Search Warrant in Connection w/ a St Paul Homicide Investigation
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Not sure. I thought they raided all 3 apartments at the same time to not only gather evidence but to hopefully arrest the suspect.
Did you read that they raided all the apartments at the same time or is that just an assumption? If so that would be a lot of officers in one apartment complex. There seemed to be about 5 involved in the raid that killed Amir. So you are saying there were about 15 officers conducting 3 no knock raids at the same time in 1 apartment complex?
Fran, just stick to posting tweets and bumping your own threads on the Football & Basketball boards. You get so worked up on OT Board that I'm starting to get worried about your mental and physical health.
It's pretty clear that you'll believe any half-assed excuse the police offer up after they kill an innocent civilian. So this is going to be my last response to you. Hope you have a pleasant afternoon and get the help you need.
Fran is one weird poster. The repeated tagging of hawkman98 is really weird.
At this point, nothing any of us can do but wait and see what happens next. I imagine the police will try to just say ‘oops’ and move on. But, I hope the incident gets a full, thorough, transparent investigation and changes are made to the no knock warrant policy, and the people responsible for the death of this man, pay for the life they took.
At this point, nothing any of us can do but wait and see what happens next. I imagine the police will try to just say ‘oops’ and move on. But, I hope the incident gets a full, thorough, transparent investigation and changes are made to the no knock warrant policy, and the people responsible for the death of this man, pay for the life they took.
there's been so much TV and print/online coverage I forget where i heard/read it but I am pretty sure they did the raids at the same time. The complex is large and I am not sure how they could do one raid at a time based on the following:
7th floor Unit: Amir, the murder suspects' brother & girlfriend were here. Police seized a jacket that they believe the murder suspect was wearing on the night of the murder
14th floor Unit: the murder suspect & his mom lived here. Officers seized a hat that police believe the suspect was wearing when he committed the murder and other items associated with two people believed to be with the murder suspect soon after the Jan. 10 murder.
14th floor unit: A friend of the murder suspect lived here. "A large amount of marijuana" was seized.
well, one of the 3 raids got delayed because Amir got shot, which is one clue
and there were too many people involved in the 3 units who all knew each other; and, as you can see, there was evidence gathered from each unit. Do you really think the raids would have occurred one unit at a time?
I don’t think Fran is actually a cop. But, he is some kind of weird cop groupie/fan boy it seems.
Which is really odd. Haven’t really seen that kind of thing at this level before.
I don’t think there is anything he wouldn’t defend police for.
Which is really odd. Haven’t really seen that kind of thing at this level before.
I don’t think there is anything he wouldn’t defend police for.
Definitely a strange guy. It seems like everytime there is a high profile incident were a cop kills someone he rushes over here to white knight for the police department and try to smear the victim.
He likes validation. God bless cops, but Hawkman let himself become a vehicle for one of Frans agenda threads.
To think I actually defended this guy against ridicule for his bizzare reasoning at one time.
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Has anyone noticed Fran committing a serious board rules violation by posting entire articles? That used to get him riled up.
Also, Ts and Ps to hawkman's notifications after getting tagged probably a dozen times by that lunatic.
Also, Ts and Ps to hawkman's notifications after getting tagged probably a dozen times by that lunatic.
you are definitely a weird guy. you called @Hawkman98 and I liars. And for some reason you have something against law enforcement, where you are incapable of being objective in this case and you instantly think they are in the wrong
This ridiculous post of yours that follows, where you went bass ass crazy, deserves to be in a Hall of Shame. And it is funny how you bring up "bizzare reasoning." People can read what follows and know how bizzare you are. And it's clearly not just your keyboard that is "flaky."
@Hawkman98 actually brings common sense & good discussion to topics like this. Clowns like you? Not so much.
And I can see that his knowledge drives some of you nut jobs even more nuts. It's pretty funny to watch your ignorance on display.
Respect the rules Fran. You dishonor law enforcement everywhere when you disregard the rules.
In this case the police don't need defending, an accident took place seems pretty cut and dried to me.
KARE 11 (NBC affiliate) just live reported that the apartments subject to the warrants were #1402, #1403 (next door), and #701 (where Amir was).
Can you now see why they would be simultaneous?
Your hypocritical meltdown continues.
You are the poster, after all, who called me and @Hawkman98 liars because you could not handle us challenging your incorrect viewpoint on this particular case.
Jeez Fran if I'd had known that calling you out for spreading misinformation would have led to this emotional breakdown I would have let it slide.
How about this I'll stop trying to correct you, that way you can pretend the policeman did the right thing in shooting the Amir Locke. Would that make you happy?
Francis. I defended you from criticism you were receiving. Not from I was giving you. I would think about that if I were you. Now, I'm not going to continue in your childish diatribe and if you have any self respect you might consider the same.
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Do you have a link? I assume 701 was 7 floors lower so it could have easily been the first apartment they raided. If they happened simultaneously this should be stated as fact by authorities not just conjecture on your part.
Assuming they were simultaneous, this was dumb as shit. If the cops are that unclear as to the location of their target the whole thing should have been a no-go. Putting that many officers and civilians at risk is the hallmark of bad police intel and piss-poor decision-making.
Christ, everything is cool. Another innocent civilian got blown away. WTF is the big deal?
But they found a jacket, a hat, and some marijuana so it was all worth it!
Well see I don't read enough of these to realize if that's his MO. However, I do know he usually tags me when he has questions, so he can have someone that actually knows the answers give their thoughts and opinions. I have disagreed with Fran before, but he has always been very receptive and respectful. Pine is just a cop hater regardless of the situation.
I say we or our because I'm talking about my profession. How am I suppose to write it when I'm part of the LE community. Would using they be better for you? You're reading way too much into what I'm trying to explain. I'm just trying to explain some of the issues LE experience that maybe the non LE don't think about. See I didn't use I or we just for you.
It was a justified shooting. Case law backs up the shooting. I did say that doesn't mean the officer who shot won't be charged or sued civilly. Grand jury will be very careful not to have a replay of the Floyd situation. Btw, I said the Floyd killing some of the officer's were wrong. And I have no problem calling other LE out if they screwed up. You won't find too many more honest of cop as me. I arrested my co worker when I was in his wedding the next month, arrested another co worker that led to his firing and wrote plenty of cops tickets. I also arrested a fireman for OWI out of a fire truck. I try to be as fair and honest as I possibly can.
I agree with this statement. This occasion isn't one of those times when speaking on the shooting.
Calling it a "justified shooting" dismisses all the stupid decisions that put everyone in the position that caused it. Is the officer at fault? No. But the leadership that insisted on no-knock middle of the night raids on three different homes looking for one person must be held accountable. They are not "justified".
I'm not weighing in on anything other than the shooting. I haven't read all of the details. I'm just saying the shooting was justified.
Well, it's apparent they had no idea where their suspect was so they got no-knock warrants on any apartment in the complex where he "might" be. Storming three different apartments in the middle of the night at the same time when you have no evidence that the guy you're looking for is in any of them is a recipe for disaster no matter the details. They were rewarded with a shirt and hat that might belong to the suspect and some weed. Their suspect wasn't found. And an innocent man was killed.
Those who made those decisions should be fired.
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