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What am I lying about you dumb ass? Where are all your compadres that are defending you? It’s funny that you brought up my girl (wife actually). I told her that I called you out as being a pussy. She laughed about that and said you would never be tough enough to squeeze a watermelon out of the lemon hole. Even she knows you are a fraud. What a joke. You are alone. Where are your Hawkeye defenders? You embarrass the program and they will stay silent and hope you dry up and blow away so the rest of us can enjoy the actual competition. What a grade A douche.
Can anyone even imagine this guys pathetic miserable life!?!?!? "he told his mommy(calls mommy his wife I guess?)" We all get your asinine tolling BS loser! It is amazing that all you bandwagon F*** st fans have no life? Go ask your mommy what it is you do all day? Then you report back to me do you understand!!!
 
Warner has just quit, injured or not his strategy is poor and his execution and effort are worse. We’ve all seen Warner at his best, he’s a shell of his former self. Makes you wonder why he came back this year
Does anyone know what he its going thru? He has been out for a bit this season. What exactly is his injury? He may be giving everything he has with a serious injury that will not heal up. Either way, the kid has paid his dues and deserves to be treated with some decency, not thrown to the curb because he no longer suits our fancy.
 
Incomplete. Six wins but no bonus points and three freshman who fought hard but had no chance to win.

Fortunately Minnesota isn't very good
Didn't Minnesota win a dual against Illinois where they had 2 or 3 upsets? Maybe they are better than they are being given credit for.
 
Didn't Minnesota win a dual against Illinois where they had 2 or 3 upsets? Maybe they are better than they are being given credit for.
Illinois is worse than MN.

We would have beat MN 8-2 or 9-1 with a full lineup...and most of our team looked disinterested or below their normal level.
 
We will likely take a step back next year at 197 as far as results.

But it will be impossible to see any less effort next season at that weight.
I'm with you. Watching 197 has been absolutely brutal, and sadly more so when our 3-time AA stepped on the mat. What in the world is going on with Warner. Some folks talk about a knee injury he has/had, but I rarely see him showing any signs of a bad knee.
 
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I'm with you. Watching 197 has been absolutely brutal, and sadly more so when our 3-time AA stepped on the mat. What in the world is going on with Warner. Some folks talk about a knee injury he has/had, but I rarely see him showing any signs of a bad knee.
It’s his knee with the sleeve on that is injured. He limped off the mat after losing earlier this year. Looks to me like he doesn’t have the power/confidence with that knee. If you rewatch the 1st period against Foy, he had a few half offensive attempts (which in the past he would have tried to score on). It looks to me like he isn’t confident in that knee.

Just speculation, but if he has some serious knee injury a la Spencer Lee I guess they figure it’s not going to get any better with rest. I’m pretty sure he is also too far along for a medical redshirt so I guess he is just trying to gut it out. It’s sad really, Warner has been frustrating at times but he is a 3x AA and he’s a Hawkeye, so I would love to see him go out a winner. At this point I’m not counting on him to AA. Just looks to injured to compete well at this point.
 
What am I lying about you dumb ass? Where are all your compadres that are defending you? It’s funny that you brought up my girl (wife actually). I told her that I called you out as being a pussy. She laughed about that and said you would never be tough enough to squeeze a watermelon out of the lemon hole. Even she knows you are a fraud. What a joke. You are alone. Where are your Hawkeye defenders? You embarrass the program and they will stay silent and hope you dry up and blow away so the rest of us can enjoy the actual competition. What a grade A douche.
I will be your Huckleberry, let me ask you a question. what gives you the right to come here and criticize and critique what die hard Iowa wrestling fans say or think? You know very little, your input is amateur at best and you have no business questioning any loyal Hawkeye fan.

Who the heck are you referring to when you say "rest of us"? Iron bird is over the top but he is a Hawk fan through and through and I will much rather read his rants then the Crap you spew, which most often makes little or no sense. I would take some of those turd psu fans before you, at least some of them have a spine.
 
I will be your Huckleberry, let me ask you a question. what gives you the right to come here and criticize and critique what die hard Iowa wrestling fans say or think? You know very little, your input is amateur at best and you have no business questioning any loyal Hawkeye fan.

Who the heck are you referring to when you say "rest of us"? Iron bird is over the top but he is a Hawk fan through and through and I will much rather read his rants then the Crap you spew, which most often makes little or no sense. I would take some of those turd psu fans before you, at least some of them have a spine.
You two can have your little bromance. It surprises me not one bit that you would be the one to jump to His defense. You're cut from the same cloth.
Go ahead and belittle the wrestlers that are laying it all on the line for your entertainment, while you freely criticize that effort. I'm a PSU fan AND a fan of wrestling. Warner is a huge talent and a great kid from everything I've seen. He has the best sportsmanship of any wrestler I've watched. I recognize his skill and appreciate his effort.
You and your buddy are YOU fans first. It's more important to you to be a big man on a message board. You never have had a fraction of the talent of YOUR guys that you call quitters on the mat. It's just wrong, period.
 
Who the F*CK are you you useless pile of shit!!! Clearly no attack on the kid! What I said is what I have always said, He is BETTER then he has shown PERIOD! I also said this is for FANS only. It is a message board for those that follow IOWA wrestling. Some others come over to "talk" wrestling and get info, because WE ARE the best fans in the business!

Then we have scumbags like you, who come over to talk your bullshit!!! Now you do say something about twitter, which I am not on. IF someone was talking crap on a social media page about our wrestlers or any for that matter. I would agree it is wrong. But on our board, to point out what we see, and what we believe, again is NOT an attack on the kid. Hell, I have been screaming it form the top of the hills for years. He should be a multi time champ.

He should be taking butter dean to the F-in wood shed and that is the fact!!! He has not done that, and because he should be, it is very frustrating. Once again you useless worthless piece of shit. Stay on your own crappy board with the rest of the TRASH!!!!

How the hell did I ever get banned from this board?
 
You two can have your little bromance. It surprises me not one bit that you would be the one to jump to His defense. You're cut from the same cloth.
Go ahead and belittle the wrestlers that are laying it all on the line for your entertainment, while you freely criticize that effort. I'm a PSU fan AND a fan of wrestling. Warner is a huge talent and a great kid from everything I've seen. He has the best sportsmanship of any wrestler I've watched. I recognize his skill and appreciate his effort.
You and your buddy are YOU fans first. It's more important to you to be a big man on a message board. You never have had a fraction of the talent of YOUR guys that you call quitters on the mat. It's just wrong, period.
So you came over here to lecture us on sportsmanship and etiquette? Can you also give us some tips on anger management while you're here?
 
You two can have your little bromance. It surprises me not one bit that you would be the one to jump to His defense. You're cut from the same cloth.
Go ahead and belittle the wrestlers that are laying it all on the line for your entertainment, while you freely criticize that effort. I'm a PSU fan AND a fan of wrestling. Warner is a huge talent and a great kid from everything I've seen. He has the best sportsmanship of any wrestler I've watched. I recognize his skill and appreciate his effort.
You and your buddy are YOU fans first. It's more important to you to be a big man on a message board. You never have had a fraction of the talent of YOUR guys that you call quitters on the mat. It's just wrong, period.
You prove my point, not that anyone cares about what you think, but please let me know one time I belittle any Iowa wrestler or called any wrestler a quitter!!

Get off your FN high horse that see yourself on( nobody else does) and take your BS elsewhere no Iowa fan cares what you think. The only turds that do are the other troll psu fans, you are the only pathetic one here. " Oh look at me, I will tell you how it is while I drink my cheap wine" you are truly a pathetic want to be! such a sorry form of life, that you try and validate your greatness with this BS.
 
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So you came over here to lecture us on sportsmanship and etiquette? Can you also give us some tips on anger management while you're here?
Can you believe this garbage, setting the bar extremely high as one of the worst psu trolls. At least most of them have some sort of clue, this guy just wants to stroke his own ego, truly a pathetic TURD!
 
How the hell did I ever get banned from this board?
I got banned from your shit board for proving one of your "insiders" wrong, you guys should be banned for just being here. At least you have a few decent posts, this wine guy just wants to lick is own undercarriage and that's all he ever does, and that's facts plain and simple.
 
I got banned from your shit board for proving one of your "insiders" wrong, you guys should be banned for just being here. At least you have a few decent posts, this wine guy just wants to lick is own undercarriage and that's all he ever does, and that's facts plain and simple.
Yeah...I don't agree with him showing more respect towards your athletes than you Iowa fans show them....

 
It’s his knee with the sleeve on that is injured. He limped off the mat after losing earlier this year. Looks to me like he doesn’t have the power/confidence with that knee. If you rewatch the 1st period against Foy, he had a few half offensive attempts (which in the past he would have tried to score on). It looks to me like he isn’t confident in that knee.

Just speculation, but if he has some serious knee injury a la Spencer Lee I guess they figure it’s not going to get any better with rest. I’m pretty sure he is also too far along for a medical redshirt so I guess he is just trying to gut it out. It’s sad really, Warner has been frustrating at times but he is a 3x AA and he’s a Hawkeye, so I would love to see him go out a winner. At this point I’m not counting on him to AA. Just looks to injured to compete well at this point.
My friend, I hope you're wrong. I'm hoping the knee is just a passing thing and some form of sickness other than what's currently been taking my wife and I down (COVID) is affecting him and causing him to be I guess lifeless for lack of a better word. My wife and I are going ton a couple weeks with one of us being positive for COVID but I know there's also some long-term respiratory thing going around as well. I just hate it for Warner! I've never liked his style much, but in the past he mostly found a way to win when it mattered, and sadly I don't see that in our current version of JWAR.
 
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Warner is clearly wrestling hurt. And he’s taking the mat. Unless he is intentionally throwing matches or getting DQ’d for behavior, giving him a “0” for a grade is hyberbole and unfair. One need not be an Iowa fan to say so.
 
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125: C. Beat a top 6 opponent handily, but because he's Spencer that's not enough. Like you said, for the first time I'm a teeny bit concerned...but only against Glory, who will keep coming after him the entire 7 minutes.
133: D. Needs to get on his offense, especially against an unranked kid. Very ugly, especially with his talent.
141: A. He's starting to become my fave (next to Spencer of course). He controls the matches and takes what they give him. Don't see him losing at B10s or NCAAs.
149: A-. Beat a quality opponent and didn't wait until the end of the 3rd to do it. Like what I saw against PSU and again tonight. He's got to keep it up against top 10-15 ranked guys.
157: A. Was always in control against Lee. Cobe could AA if he gets a good draw...and he's fun to watch.
165: B. Was in control throughout but got a bit sloppy towards the end and let the MD slip away. That said, love how he's progressing and still pick him as a top 5 at NCAAs.
174: B. Game effort against a top 10/11 ranked opponent.
184: B-. A B- vice a C- for not giving up when it looked like the TF was a given against a top 10 opponent.
197: I also give him a zero. I've always maintained faith that Jacob would show up in March like he's done the past three NCAAs, but that faith is now gone. 197 is a pretty weak weight class in the B10 this year so I'm thinking JWAR will have to make it to the B10 finals and perhaps even win the finals to be get a top 10 to 12 seed at NCAAs. And since he has zero chance of winning B10s, I see him seeded in the 14 to 18 range for NCAAs, getting beat in the first round and hopefully getting a win or two in the cons rounds. Sadly, he just plain sucks right now...and if a bad knee is the reason he sucks so bad, the coaching staff is doing a terrible injustice sending him out there vice letting him recover from the injury. Something is just not right with him. In the end I'm just glad we got to see him excel these past three NCAA tourneys...and it was impressive to him make the finals and keep our streak alive!!
HWT: C: Good effort by the young man. Hope we gave Cass the night off because he's recovering from something and not just because we had the meet wrapped up. If he's healthy I want to see him out there. He's entertaining and always gives his best...and he's a fan favorite.

Hope we look better next week against Michigan!! Go Hawks!!
I can't wait for March when Warner wrestles Max again on Saturday night in Tulsa and makes some of you gag on the crap you are throwing at a first class wrestler and first class young man. In fact as a PSU guy Warner, Cass, and Abe are my 3 favorite Hawks.
 
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Warner has just quit, injured or not his strategy is poor and his execution and effort are worse. We’ve all seen Warner at his best, he’s a shell of his former self. Makes you wonder why he came back this year
I hope he comes back and finishes 2nd to Max in Tulsa just to see your response.
 
You two can have your little bromance. It surprises me not one bit that you would be the one to jump to His defense. You're cut from the same cloth.
Go ahead and belittle the wrestlers that are laying it all on the line for your entertainment, while you freely criticize that effort. I'm a PSU fan AND a fan of wrestling. Warner is a huge talent and a great kid from everything I've seen. He has the best sportsmanship of any wrestler I've watched. I recognize his skill and appreciate his effort.
You and your buddy are YOU fans first. It's more important to you to be a big man on a message board. You never have had a fraction of the talent of YOUR guys that you call quitters on the mat. It's just wrong, period.
This loser came on our board making false claims about what was being said. The POS then wants to pretend that he respects our wrestlers so much that he has to defend them??? The scumbag threw out the first internet tough guy insults. You know 100% that this geek would never say anything to my face or anyone else on here, but hey, he can be a tuff guy behind the keyboard.

Just read what he wrote above. Where did I or anyone ever criticizes his effort? Who said anything about his sportsmanship? Please show us all where you have seen me or anyone write this? He also claimed something about twitter which I am not on so there goes that claim you horses ass! All the other claims he made saying I bad mouth the kid is also false.

Now he will want to point to match grades, something we have been doing for as long as I can remember. Once again, I talked about how this is for us fans to generate more talk about our team. For example, I am about the biggest SL fan on this board. I have said I think he is the best wrestler in the world, and maybe the best wrestler I ever get to see.

In his last match, which was not up to LEE standards, I showed that in my grading. That does not mean I am putting the kid down! If this dork was truly a wrestling fan as he claims and not just some BS troll. He would clearly understand this. Matter of fact, why didn't he jump on me for other grades? I have done it for every match and have given poor grades based on performance to other wrestlers.

Maybe this is Warners mom? I do not know, but obviously she never read the part where i wrote how I and 99.9% of us could only wish to be as good a Warner!

I do believe I will now venture over to the F*** st board which I have never done. I will do the same crap that these A-holes do here. I do not know if they stole match grading from us? If they did, I wonder how they would have graded say, StarFISH over Brands by one? I am guessing they probably just give everyone an A+ like this fool would.

Yea that is it guys!!! 82BoarsAss says "everyone deserves a A+ for trying their very best!" Guess this is how we have to do it? So let me go back>

197 Warner A+ You went out there and gave it you very best. We all love you for this! You are a returning National Finalist but we nor anyone else can not and should not expect and/or want anything like a win against an unranked guy! We have milk and cookies for you in a safe space. 82boarsAss will bring a blanky and a binky for a nice bed time story!
 
This loser came on our board making false claims about what was being said. The POS then wants to pretend that he respects our wrestlers so much that he has to defend them??? The scumbag threw out the first internet tough guy insults. You know 100% that this geek would never say anything to my face or anyone else on here, but hey, he can be a tuff guy behind the keyboard.

Just read what he wrote above. Where did I or anyone ever criticizes his effort? Who said anything about his sportsmanship? Please show us all where you have seen me or anyone write this? He also claimed something about twitter which I am not on so there goes that claim you horses ass! All the other claims he made saying I bad mouth the kid is also false.

Now he will want to point to match grades, something we have been doing for as long as I can remember. Once again, I talked about how this is for us fans to generate more talk about our team. For example, I am about the biggest SL fan on this board. I have said I think he is the best wrestler in the world, and maybe the best wrestler I ever get to see.

In his last match, which was not up to LEE standards, I showed that in my grading. That does not mean I am putting the kid down! If this dork was truly a wrestling fan as he claims and not just some BS troll. He would clearly understand this. Matter of fact, why didn't he jump on me for other grades? I have done it for every match and have given poor grades based on performance to other wrestlers.

Maybe this is Warners mom? I do not know, but obviously she never read the part where i wrote how I and 99.9% of us could only wish to be as good a Warner!

I do believe I will now venture over to the F*** st board which I have never done. I will do the same crap that these A-holes do here. I do not know if they stole match grading from us? If they did, I wonder how they would have graded say, StarFISH over Brands by one? I am guessing they probably just give everyone an A+ like this fool would.

Yea that is it guys!!! 82BoarsAss says "everyone deserves a A+ for trying their very best!" Guess this is how we have to do it? So let me go back>

197 Warner A+ You went out there and gave it you very best. We all love you for this! You are a returning National Finalist but we nor anyone else can not and should not expect and/or want anything like a win against an unranked guy! We have milk and cookies for you in a safe space. 82boarsAss will bring a blanky and a binky for a nice bed time story!
Ironbird,
I've gone back to review the comments about JW here and on Twitter. After looking at all this material I have determined that I owe you an apology. The vast majority of the worst comments were posted by twitter trolls and I unfairly painted you with that brush. In fact, you didn't even make the worst comments in the Minny match thread. I really like Jacob Warner and it pissed me off to see how some supposed fans were coming at him. But in this case I shouldn't have directed my frustration at you, or HR at all.
So @IRONBIRD, I apologize for how I came at you. It was undeserved.
@Grip220 I apologize to you for lumping you into the fray. Your defense of Ironbird was warranted.
The apologies are sincere, so I hope you can accept them in the spirit in which they were offered.
I'll do better in the future.
 
Maybe the cheap wine guy is somehow related to Warner or knows the family, although he is a psu fan. What's crazy is I believe after thinking about it, I think this is why I tend to not give grades. I may have done it a few times but don't really love the threads.
At the end of the day Hawk fans are the best and maybe some are a bit nuts, but I'm fairly sure TnT and Warner himself are pretty POed after that loss also. GO HAWKS!
 
Ironbird,
I've gone back to review the comments about JW here and on Twitter. After looking at all this material I have determined that I owe you an apology. The vast majority of the worst comments were posted by twitter trolls and I unfairly painted you with that brush. In fact, you didn't even make the worst comments in the Minny match thread. I really like Jacob Warner and it pissed me off to see how some supposed fans were coming at him. But in this case I shouldn't have directed my frustration at you, or HR at all.
So @IRONBIRD, I apologize for how I came at you. It was undeserved.
@Grip220 I apologize to you for lumping you into the fray. Your defense of Ironbird was warranted.
The apologies are sincere, so I hope you can accept them in the spirit in which they were offered.
I'll do better in the future.
I hate social media, I make comments here for our fans and read most of what is posted because i know this is mostly Hawk fans (and some trolls) giving insight and general good content. We are passionate wrestling fans and sometimes we get a little over the top, it's the nature of the beast.

You still drink cheap wine but I guess apology accepted for now.
 
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What am I lying about you dumb ass? Where are all your compadres that are defending you? It’s funny that you brought up my girl (wife actually). I told her that I called you out as being a pussy. She laughed about that and said you would never be tough enough to squeeze a watermelon out of the lemon hole. Even she knows you are a fraud. What a joke. You are alone. Where are your Hawkeye defenders? You embarrass the program and they will stay silent and hope you dry up and blow away so the rest of us can enjoy the actual competition. What a grade A douche.
Would you two get a room already and leave us out of your love spat?
 
Ironbird,
I've gone back to review the comments about JW here and on Twitter. After looking at all this material I have determined that I owe you an apology. The vast majority of the worst comments were posted by twitter trolls and I unfairly painted you with that brush. In fact, you didn't even make the worst comments in the Minny match thread. I really like Jacob Warner and it pissed me off to see how some supposed fans were coming at him. But in this case I shouldn't have directed my frustration at you, or HR at all.
So @IRONBIRD, I apologize for how I came at you. It was undeserved.
@Grip220 I apologize to you for lumping you into the fray. Your defense of Ironbird was warranted.
The apologies are sincere, so I hope you can accept them in the spirit in which they were offered.
I'll do better in the future.
Fair enough, I do respect that you came on here and cleared the air. I will also admit I may have went off a bit too much. As you have said, NO wrestler should be openly bad mouthed by anyone. Honestly, this should be true for all sports, but wrestlers even more so because of how tough the sport is!

Most on here love the HAWKS. We are probably a little over the top even(?); when it comes to our favorite team. We truly want to see them win ever match every year! In the end though, what I have learned here maybe more then anything is. These fans on here, are TRUE wrestling fans. They want to see good hard fought matches. They have no ill will toward any wrestler. For example, If a top wrestler from another team goes down with an injury. Even if it could help an IOWA wrestler move up. They will honestly feel bad for the kid and would much rather not win in that way!

So at the end of the day, I do bust chops on "F*** st" here on our board ONLY! It is intended to be good natured ribbing against the team we need to take out! I have met several Lion wrestlers at clinics. Ed Ruth, the Alton brothers. I have nothing but the best to say about them, and I am sure if I get to meet more some day. It will be nothing but the same.

At the end of the day, hopefully we all got a good laugh from this!
 
Fair enough, I do respect that you came on here and cleared the air. I will also admit I may have went off a bit too much. As you have said, NO wrestler should be openly bad mouthed by anyone. Honestly, this should be true for all sports, but wrestlers even more so because of how tough the sport is!

Most on here love the HAWKS. We are probably a little over the top even(?); when it comes to our favorite team. We truly want to see them win ever match every year! In the end though, what I have learned here maybe more then anything is. These fans on here, are TRUE wrestling fans. They want to see good hard fought matches. They have no ill will toward any wrestler. For example, If a top wrestler from another team goes down with an injury. Even if it could help an IOWA wrestler move up. They will honestly feel bad for the kid and would much rather not win in that way!

So at the end of the day, I do bust chops on "F*** st" here on our board ONLY! It is intended to be good natured ribbing against the team we need to take out! I have met several Lion wrestlers at clinics. Ed Ruth, the Alton brothers. I have nothing but the best to say about them, and I am sure if I get to meet more some day. It will be nothing but the same.

At the end of the day, hopefully we all got a good laugh from this!
I appreciate you accepting the apology. Next thing you know we'll be having wine and cheese.

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so you had an internet fight.... both of you slinging insults and threatening to kick each others A$$ES and even talked about dirty loving and the use of baseball bats... and now its hugs and kisses????? I say " HELL NO TO THAT " you two must settle this by a traditional duel... your choice of weapons are Plastic sporks from the KFC or perhaps a bar of Dial soap in a tube sock for swinging . The mere fact that you even discussed this internet trash talking with your spouse is enough for me to wonder if you actually even wanted to fight in reality. I think if you are a Hawkeye fan...God Bless you. If you are a PSU Fan...so be it but it would be best served if you didnt come over here and start trash with real Hawkeye fans...that is just trolling and it gets old to watch. .................... Enough is enough .... Go Hawks !!!
 
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