I'd tie him up by that lagoon in SC and let the gators have at him.
Mollie Tibbetts found dead
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I vote for hanging this person from their eyelids and beating them until they blink.
I would like to respond to this back-and-forth…
HIWILLE's wife and kids reaction is predictable—the media coverage of Mollie (I'm guessing) is/was entirely such that she is portrayed as a sympathetic character. So, as described by HIWILLE, after weeks of coverage, people develop varying levels of sympathy for her (and, by extension, her family and community). That daily dose of empathy adds up, more for some, less for others. But it is fair to say that for almost nobody is there antipathy, indifference, and almost assuredly no hostility.
Point being, media matters. Language matters. Portrayals matter.
Conversely, there is a ton of media portraying groups of people as—to be simplistic for the sake of expediency—not worthy of empathy, or, even more simplistically, bad. Some of this is plenty apparent already in this thread. The daily dose of Liberals this, Conservatives that, old white males this, young black males that, Mexicans this, White Nationalists that, is important and has very real effects—emotional effects that render people pliable towards, ultimately, policy (and power).
Point being, in a word, awareness. I wish we were all acutely aware of how media affects us, and sustain an ongoing critical analysis of the messages being delivered to us. This is not to suggest that none of the bad messaging is unwarranted, it is simply to suggest that it all deserves a reflex of skepticism and/or cynicism—in all directions with regard to all messages from all sources. Balancing this, hopefully, is a recognition that some messages, even as they fall on unappreciative ears, are nonetheless true. Confirmation bias these days is quite remarkable.
Mollie's story sucks. It feels close to home to many on an Iowa message board for obvious reasons. As far as I'm concerned, to whatever "group" the person(s) responsible for her kidnapping and death is virtually immaterial. People from all "groups" do bad things, and there is no magical policy that is going to magically eliminate bad stuff. If this isn't obvious, now more than ever, then damn we're really wearing blinders.
So while I'll surely get chastised for directing attention away from Mollie, I hope my words aren't wasted. People see their own children, daughter(s), wife, sister in Mollie. Maybe she reminds them of their own, looks a little like their own. It's thus easy to empathize. Personally, I see a reflection of me, of my humanity, in all people. It was practically bred into me. It's something I value in myself.
I'm rambling a little, but whatever. The Mollie story as it has played out here in HROT has been fascinating. Now that it is coming to a conclusion of sorts, I'm reflective as are many of you. For what it's worth, this is my reflecting.
To summarize:
- The media messaging aspect of this is interesting in that it presents an opportunity to better understand how media effects us—how daily doses, sometimes as small and (seemingly) insignificant as a tweet or even just an image, create lasting, if not intractable, perceptions.
- Being aware of #1 is important as ever given our being constantly bombarded with messaging. Hell, in today's digital world, we hardly have time to take a breath to consider the validity and weight of a particular message before the next (often reinforcing) message hits us. Partnering with confirmation bias, holy shit this renders us virtually guaranteed to always be fighting amongst ourselves.
- As a result of #1 and #2, there is a very, very real consequence of to whom and to what we decide to share our empathy. I hope people give this some consideration.
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Relax chief. He was referencing a less technological time. We should all be able to relate
The thing with Reddit is that now if at the 5pm news conference comes and police say that no one is in custody or that they arrested a family member people like OiT will go on for years that it was a conspiracy to hide that fact that it was really person X because agenda Y.
I don't know that the shirt being found was ever confirmed. It might have just been another rumor that was not substantiated.
That said, rumors are flying like crazy there. I still like my source from earlier.
The area that is being searched appears to border Cheney Farms doesn’t it? Or am I looking at the map wrong?
Also heard just a few minutes ago that there is a leak in the info and that there is going to be a story on it coming out shortly with a local radio or TV station. Unbelievable amount of rumors going around that area. I've heard 5 totally different stories this morning.
I agree not sure shirt was found or not but ot sounds like the area that was searched
I know that that area was searched. Within a mile of the area they are at now at least.
I think I was clear in just asking. Not starting anything, but you are doing a great job starting something.
Just inquiring. Sounds like a good family.
people like OiT first thought it may be a Traveller along i80 and then saw some sort of desert in Arizona or Utah in some sort of vision. People like OiT never really have developed any theory other than may be some strange cult but we shall see. Just gotta wait and see
Sorry. Not inferring that you are starting anything. And you are right. I need to go silent on this. I don't want to stir up anything more then is already out there.
Texted friend who in is law enforcement where there is quite a few vehicles out blocking roads to get to crime scene. Said area is not one of the 5 zones but it is just SE of the town of Guernsey and east side of hwy 21. Fairly close to English River.
is the suspect from Brooklyn then or was she dumped here?
6 weeks ago this girl was known to few and was about to start fall classes at Iowa; she simply went for a jog on a warm summer evening, like many of us do; and today she is national news and trending on twitter and a family is devastated
it scares the heck out of me when i think of my 20 something nieces living in Des Moines, Kansas City and Iowa City; I have another niece living in Mediapolis, a town of 1200 (similar to Brooklyn); Mollie was living her life and suddenly she was at the wrong place at the wrong time; life is much more fragile than I think any of us know
this thread is sucks, and that's saying a lot for HROT
As others have stated, as a father of a little girl (who pisses me off from time to time), you couldn’t build anything that would hold me from this SOB once he was known.
As for who did it, I hate to say it but there are contractors all over in that area.
As for who did it, I hate to say it but there are contractors all over in that area.
Area is about 15 miles give or take from Brooklyn. Zero clue on suspect just information I got is where body was found. No clue either on who or how body was found either.
i remember the boyfriend saying that the 2 dogs she was sitting kinda gave a sense of security and that nobody in Brooklyn locked their doors
maybe if those dogs had gone with her on that damn jog.
damn it.
those with daughters on here, are you thinking of putting them in self defense classes? granted, they would probably never use it, but....
No kidding. Who throwing a camera in his face was out of line. There was some guy in Minnesota who got the blame for a child killing until the real guy confessed. Ruined his life.
I know it is taboo, and if you are against them then that is fine.
With that said, sign your wife up for a conceal and carry class.
You will sleep better.
i hope there are counselors readily available
if i were a family member, i would need help, i can tell you that; think about it; if you are the parent of this child, someone found your child's decomposing remains this morning; how the hell do you move forward?
Yes, self defense is a good start however I wouldn’t want mine to become overconfident. I remember when she was like 9 she would tell me what she would do if someone tried to grab her. I thought “Oh God, she really believes she can fight off a grown man!”. So one day I put it to the test, I grabbed her and said get out of it....suffice it to say she figured out that she would need a different plan.
When she is old enough I will teach her to shoot. There’s too many scumbags in this world.
I don’t want to think about it, but I would do all kinds of unholy things to this SOB who killed little Ms. Tibbits. I don’t know her, but it hits too close to home.
I don’t think you ever get over it, you just live with it. Both my mom and Dad had sisters murdered within a few years of each other in the 80s. I don’t think it goes away.
My family lives in a very small town that is clean and everybody knows everybody.
The only time we lock the door is at night. We leave it unlocked all day even when nobody is home. We tell repair people to just walk in if nobody answers.
This type of thing is very common in small towns.
The only time we lock the door is at night. We leave it unlocked all day even when nobody is home. We tell repair people to just walk in if nobody answers.
This type of thing is very common in small towns.
Same here except our doors are locked, most of the time, during the day. We personally know all of the service people that come to our home. We just give them the code to the garage door.
True story. One guy got out around 2000 (guilty of 2nd degree murder) the other will never get out (convicted of 1st degree murder).
Anyone hear anything about her being hit by a car on her run? Ik it was speculated early on but I’ve heard it again today through a guy in a neighboring town to Brooklyn. They said she was killed by the car and the person panicked and disposed of her body. Probably just one of the many rumors floating around.
Yeah ‘84 (shot by her husband while in a car with my cousins in the back seat) and ‘87 (stabbed by her boyfriend in the alley outside of work).
Sorry dude that is rare in this town especial during the 80s. It is getting worse it seems, or maybe I am to close to it.
Yeah, I agree seems to be getting hairy especially with that kid that got beat to death down on 4th street.
Yep, and no one saw a thing. Weird thing is I was down in that area, and there was a group walking around with shirts off at the same. I won't give away why I am close, but I got a text as they could see where I was and asked what I had seen.
Kid that I coached in MS football shot a guy a week or so ago to get even.
Kid last year shot in a car downtown.
I remember when the Ron Fish, owner of Ben Fish, was murdered it was news for weeks. To many of these things are becoming footnotes.
Not to take anything away from your tragedy, and I apologize up front if you take it that way, but your anecdotal experiences of family death show why "self defense" and other precautions are generally irrelevant, other than to make one feel more secure. Hard to stop either of those incidents.
Or more generally, I've read comments like, "who lets her go running at night?!?" like somehow hiding inside will keep one's loved ones safe.
This shit sucks, but is statistically extremely rare and mostly unpreventable.
