belongs to Chuck Long at 27, Brad Banks 2nd at 26. Stanley's already at 8 with 10-12 games left. 3 or more tds tomorrow puts this well within his reach! Who would have thought this would even be a realistic topic a few weeks ago!
Most TD passes in a season
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I think we got 13 more games remaining but either way... Stanzley is on pace for 48 touchdown passes for the 12 regular season games...
if we play 15 games... he will have 60 TD passes.
I like it.
if we play 15 games... he will have 60 TD passes.
I like it.
17 tds to go for the tie and 10 games to do it! It's sucks cause he should have had 4 this last game. I'm sure Nate will have at least couple 3 tds games. I think, at the very least, he'll catch Banks. 10 to 1 Td/int is a very nice start also. Nice stats for the talking heads in seasons to come. 
He's skipping the NFL and heading straight to the HOF!
I know it's tongue in cheek, but he needs to be here one more year. Three years out of high school.
Stanley had two TD's that did not count Saturday, how ironic would it be if he is short one or two of getting the record.
He did, but one of them got put back. After the Wadley penalty, he ended up throwing the tipped pass to Hockenson. But yes, the Easley fumble took a TD reception off the board.
He will have a shot if he stays healthy and Iowa stays aggressive in the red zone throwing the ball.
It's crazy to think 27 is the record.
Some QB's throw for 50-60 a year nowadays.
Some QB's throw for 50-60 a year nowadays.
Also, Brandon Smith has been earning more and more reps each week. Combine him as a legit jump-ball threat in the red-zone with Hockenson and Fant ... and our passing game in the red-zone could have some legitimate teeth.
Besides, VandeBerg and Easley seem to have a knack for getting open (and catching the ball).
Lastly, upon glancing at the B1G football stats ... there are 5 teams yet who we play who are on the lower-end of the pass-D spectrum. Those teams are Ohio State, Purdue, Northwestern, Illinois, and Nebraska. While I doubt that Iowa "lights up" any Big 10 team through the air ... it's still possible and perhaps even likely that he still has several 2-TD games through the rest of the season.
At this current juncture, I think that it is entirely possible for him to AT LEAST average around 1 passing TD from here on out .... and that would put him at 20 passing TDs on the year. Again, that would be impressive in itself given that Beathard only threw for 17 TDs through each of his seasons starting.
Supposing he averages around 1.5 TDs per game from here on out ... that puts him at 25 TDs on the year! As others noted ... that's putting him in historic territory ... and he's just a first year starter!
Lastly, it's worth remarking that Vandenberg passed for 25 TDs back in 2011 ... and he was a redshirt JR!
This. That record should have fallen long ago. I doubt many schools have a passing touchdown record this old.
For a ball-control offense that is backed-up by a high quality D ... 26 passing TDs is enough to win A LOT of games. When the Hawks do it ... we'll be getting those TDs while only having around 65 snaps per game AND we will have likely killed the clock in the process too (because you know that we're also running the ball too).
For teams with the crazy-number of TDs ... their O is also usually seeing a lot more snaps per game. Also, their running games are usually limited (or finesse-styled, at best). Thus, they NEED their passing game to score points.
I said this in another thread but it fits here so I'm going to say it again...
What does it say for Greg Davis as a position coach/OC to inherit a senior QB who threw for 3000 yards and had a touchdown/INT ratio of 25:7 only to turn him into a 2000 yard/7:8 type of QB.
I feel even more bad for Vandy.
What does it say for Greg Davis as a position coach/OC to inherit a senior QB who threw for 3000 yards and had a touchdown/INT ratio of 25:7 only to turn him into a 2000 yard/7:8 type of QB.
I feel even more bad for Vandy.
Greg actually did a pretty good job of developing QBs at Iowa. The bigger problems with Iowa's O that year were that the WRs weren't being taught the O very well (and hence weren't on the same page as Vandenberg) AND that Ferentz-style running game wasn't seamlessly integrated with Davis's passing scheme. Without the seamless integration ... it made it far too easy to tell the difference between passing and running plays. Also, with the WRs not on the same page as the QB ... timing and placement will necessarily be off.
Disagree.
Look at the difference at how Stanley goes through progressions this year compared to, lets just say Vandy. It is night and day and that comes via Davis/KOK style coaching. Heck...look at how much different Rudock looked at Michigan compared to Iowa.
Rudock looked almost identical at Michigan compared to Iowa. The biggest difference was that Rudock eventually started throwing the ball downfield more at Michigan ... but that was also likely attributable to the fact that Rudock had better WR talent at Michigan AND he was encouraged by the coaches more to take those shots. At Iowa, Rudock was so afraid of turnovers, that he was exceedingly hesitant to take shots down the field.
Also, be more specific as it relates to the read and progressions. Vandenberg did a pretty good job of mastering Davis's system ... the problem was that doesn't help you when you don't have much time to pass the ball OR the WRs don't run the right hot-routes.
I'd argue that Davis's approach seemed to have the QB make more decisions pre-snap based on what he saw from the D. Whereas, the O'Keefe style system is a little more pragmatic ... about seeing what the D is giving you while the play is underway (more of the decision is made post-snap). Either approach can be effective ... and pre-snap approach really helped Beathard to get us in the right play with great frequency.
If Davis were so poorly at developing QBs ... then we would never have seen Sokol, Rudock, and Beathard ALL end up being starting college QBs. If their football IQ didn't benefit from Davis ... then their developments would have stalled and they'd be of no use to ANY program.
Thus, the problem has little to do with Davis's ability to develop QBs. The much bigger issue was that Davis's offensive philosophy ultimately proved to NOT be a very good fit for Iowa.
I must say that Stanley looks very well coached for his first few games starting. Very impressed that he doesn't force any passes and rolls out past the tackles and throws it away when needed. He definitely has been made ready to play.
Also, although he doesn't show a great amount of elusiveness ... he doesn't seem to come across as a "statue" in the pocket either. He often uses his feet (and his size) to escape long enough to throw away the ball.
Exactly, when I saw it I was thinking that is lower than I thought and well within reach. As impressive as 28 tds is, it'll be the fact he broke/has the record that gets talked about. Brian Ferentz's first year as OC and he takes a true soph, first year starter, and breaks Chuck Long's single season TD record. Nice opening act, nice recruiting tool, nice resume for our next head coaching opening... Get-r-done Nate/Brian!
To build off this...he goes about his business while distributing the ball to a multiple of people. It isn't locking on to one stud and throwing it up. He utilizes the tight ends and receivers to what the defense gives him.
I'm not sure if he will break the record or not...but what I do know is how Stanley goes about his work it makes for a more difficult prep for the defense. Especially when they (Stanley/receiving corps) start to click on the deep ball.
One thing that genuinely makes me curious is that we've played a bunch of teams that are already used to defending pass-happy teams. Thus, is it possible that teams like ISU and UNT might actually have somewhat competent secondaries? Where those team "traditionally" would be lacking more is on the line of scrimmage ... and that is why they're potentially more susceptible to concerns posed by competent running attacks.
Thus, is it possible that our WRs and TEs might still have some luck against B1G LBs and DBs? The flip-side of all this is that the quality of LBs and DL will be "stepping up" too ... and thus, Stanley may end up having even less time to pass the ball.
How will Stanley fare against these tougher defenses? How will he respond?
It's only 3 games, but the best way I describe the Iowa offense so far is that things fit together. There were elements of the Davis offense that were good, but nothing seemed to build off the other or complement what was being done, either in formation or approach. When Jonathan Parker came in the game, he was either running a jet sweep or a fake jet sweep, or the ball was being thrown to Parker on a screen. Instead of Parker in the slot being an integrated part of the offense, Parker coming into the game was a tell as to what would happen.
Contrast that with the limited usage of Wadley in the slot this year. Iowa has run a jet sweep to Wadley, a fake jet sweep to Wadley, has thrown the ball to him there, and also just run the normal offense from the slot. For example, the second-to-last play in the ISU game had Wadley in the slot, Butler in the backfield, 1st and goal from the 9. ISU walked a safety out over Wadley, as the defense had to respect him. Iowa ended up running a normal running play to Butler to the left, which gained 4 yards, a positive play on first down. That is making Wadley in the slot truly a part of the offense, as the entire playbook is open to the offense, and not just some trick or gimmick play.
27 is low. 40's is common. 50's has only happened 5 times ever and 60's has never happened.
40s might be common in leagues that play flag football on D. Not common in the B1G
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/leaders/pass-td-player-season.html
looking back at your question it looks like he is doing just fine, just like the WR's and TE's are doing just fine. Stanley is tied for 8th in TD passes and the leader has 19. there are 5 players tied for 3rd with 16. also going into saterdays game he was in 35th place, but some that understands how they figure these things out as Stanley went from 150.4 to 149.3.
Easley leads the team in TD catches, Yards and receptions with 4 and there are 23 players tied for 12th nationally with 5 putting Easley in a tie for 36th,
these players are growing up
Through 3 B1G games, he's had 5 TD passes. That's not too bad of a clip ... particularly when you consider that we faced the Ds of MSU and PSU.
Going off of what I speculated at before, currently Stanley is averaging 1.66 TDs per B1G game. Those stats, at least in the short term, will continue to rise ... because Northwestern is very good at defending the run ... but they've been more than a little exploitable against the pass.
22 TDs now, 5 to tie and 6 to set a new record with 4 games to do it! 30 tds would actually put him in the top 10 for career tds! 74 is the most in a career, he's on pace to pass that in one fewer years than Long.
Single game
Rank Player TDs Year Opponent
1 Chuck Hartlieb 7 1987 Northwestern
2 Chuck Long 6 1984 Texas[6]
Chuck Long 6 1985 Northwestern
4 Nate Stanley 5 2017 Iowa State
Nate Stanley 5 2017 Ohio State
6 Chuck Long 4 1984 Purdue
Chuck Long 4 1985 Michigan State
Jon Beutjer 4 2000 Indiana
Drew Tate 4[7] 2005 Minnesota
I found it interesting that no Iowa QB has ever thrown for 5 tds in a game and Nate's done it 2x in his 1st 9 games.
Single game
Rank Player TDs Year Opponent
1 Chuck Hartlieb 7 1987 Northwestern
2 Chuck Long 6 1984 Texas[6]
Chuck Long 6 1985 Northwestern
4 Nate Stanley 5 2017 Iowa State
Nate Stanley 5 2017 Ohio State
6 Chuck Long 4 1984 Purdue
Chuck Long 4 1985 Michigan State
Jon Beutjer 4 2000 Indiana
Drew Tate 4[7] 2005 Minnesota
I found it interesting that no Iowa QB has ever thrown for 5 tds in a game and Nate's done it 2x in his 1st 9 games.
